Tex Cobb vs Scott LeDoux

[JMac]

Two tough guys, similar builds and style.
I was talking to LeDoux years ago when he had a short stint with ESPN commentating amateur boxing. I mentioned that I would have loved to see him and Cobb in the ring. He laughed and said it would have been a good scrap.

[SenorPipino]

It would have been a very ugly fight.

[Nile4000]

Tex would edge Scott. Barely.

[Kalan]

LeDoux didn't have a similar build or style... He was soft and a bit chinny -- not up to Cobb's low level of ability.

Duane Bobick knocked him out twice unless I'm mistaken... Bobick and LeDoux hated each other... Duane's flagging confidence soared when he fought LeDoux - one of those weird matchups.

LeDoux loved to needle Bobick... "I proved that white Heavyweights can go more than 1 round" was the first thing LeDoux told the interviewer after one fight... "Well, we all know who you're talking about" was the reply.

[DrDuke]

Cobb was tougher, I pick him to win here.

[oogiebe]

I can't pick a marginal HW over Randy Cobb. That guy is the toughest SOB I've ever seen. What was it he said after the Holmes fight, something like, I'd have had him in another 7/8 rounds or something. I was tiring him out. It was hilarious.

[Tony1244]

Both good chins with only fair power.

One of Cobb's quips was, "Oh, you're allowed to block or duck a punch?" Both had no defense, so if there were no cuts, they'd just keep hitting each other until time ran out.

I think the result would mirror the Cobb-Leon Spinks and the L. Spinks-Eddie Animal Lopez fights. I think one or both were draws - close fight.

[HomicideHenry]

LeDoux had the better arsenal, but a weak chin. Cobb arguably had the better wins, but despite LeDoux's record he was better than it suggests.

My heart says Cobb, my mind says LeDoux. Flip a coin. It's a 50/50 fight. The two men had a few opponents in common: Norton, Holmes, Spinks, to name three.

I always felt Cobb was robbed against Norton (LeDoux had a draw against him). Holmes absolutely dominated both men, but whereas LeDoux was knocked out Cobb went fifteen rounds and joked, "If it were another fifteen rounds Larry would have fell dead from exhaustion." With Spinks, Cobb won a majority decision when both men were well passed their best, and LeDoux had a competitive draw against Spinks in his prime.

I remember 15 years ago or so, conversing with a fighter named George "Terminator" Lindberger after I read an article in KO MAGAZINE where LeDoux said that he absolutely hated Butterbean, calling him a "fat slob impersonating a fighter", and Lindberger (who lost to BB) took issue with it and challenged LeDoux to fight. It nearly happened, but of course it didn't.

Apparently the hatred for Butterbean began after a fight LeDoux was commentating on, and the opponent seemed to have taken a dive. Butterbean leans over the rope and says to LeDoux, "How come my nose is straight and yours is so crooked?", as if to imply that he was better than LeDoux. Without missing a beat "The Fighting Frenchman" quipped: "Because you fought fifty bums and I fought seven world champions!"

[sweetviolenturge]

Ledoux was a more skilled & more durable fighter than most of you are giving him credit for IMO. I believe that had both of them met while at their very best then it would have gone Ledoux's way via a very narrow decision. Probably split. Or, like has been previously mentioned, a draw.
Ledoux was an awkward, deceptively tough fighter with a decent, deceptive jab & an effective overhand right. And his sweeping left hook was OK too.
As for his chin or his lack of one, he had a pretty decent beard. The only men to stop him in his prime ( other than the cut eye TKO that he suffered to Cookie Wallace in his first loss ) were George Foreman, Duane Bobick & Holmes. After which, he was definitely on the downside of his career. Even after that point it's not as if he was finished by mediocre opponents or average punchers. The men who stopped him were the trio of Greg Page, Gerrie Coetzee & Frank Bruno. They may not have been hall of famers but they were damned good punchers.

[scorpio83]

In my opinion, Tex Cobb would pummel LeDoux for a late round stoppage win at least 10 rounds.

[sweetviolenturge]

Despite his high KO ratio, Cobb wasn't all that big of a puncher. He was strong & had some power in that looping right hand of his but he wasn't the type of guy that could KO world class fighters with one or two shots. When he did stop them it was because of an accumulation of punches over several rounds. Therefore, I don't see him as being likely to stop Ledoux at anywhere near his prime.
Ledoux faced much better punchers in Ron Lyle, Ken Norton & Mike Weaver & went the distance with all three.

[HomicideHenry]

Cobb was an "arm puncher", therefore there wasn't alot of power behind his blows. If men were stopped by Cobb, it was primarily because they threw everything but the kitchen sink at him and became exhausted; or they were well passed their best (Shavers) or were novices.

[Kalan]

Despite his high KO ratio, Cobb wasn't all that big of a puncher. He was strong & had some power in that looping right hand of his but he wasn't the type of guy that could KO world class fighters with one or two shots. When he did stop them it was because of an accumulation of punches over several rounds. Therefore, I don't see him as being likely to stop Ledoux at anywhere near his prime.
Ledoux faced much better punchers in Ron Lyle, Ken Norton & Mike Weaver & went the distance with all three.

LeDoux's chin wasn't that great... Bobick got him out... Foreman crushed him.

[HomicideHenry]

Not to mention Rodney Bobick also beat Scott LeDoux.

[nobleart1978]

I think Cobb wins this on points over 10 rounds.

The winner to fight Chuck Wepner !

[sweetviolenturge]

Despite his high KO ratio, Cobb wasn't all that big of a puncher. He was strong & had some power in that looping right hand of his but he wasn't the type of guy that could KO world class fighters with one or two shots. When he did stop them it was because of an accumulation of punches over several rounds. Therefore, I don't see him as being likely to stop Ledoux at anywhere near his prime.
Ledoux faced much better punchers in Ron Lyle, Ken Norton & Mike Weaver & went the distance with all three.

LeDoux's chin wasn't that great... Bobick got him out... Foreman crushed him.

I never stated that Ledoux had a great chin. What I said was that his chin was good, decent, of better than average quality. Otherwise he wouldn't have been able to last the limit with men like Weaver, Lyle, Norton, Bobick ( in their first first encounter ) & others. One needs to be more durable than your average heavyweights in order to do that.
Yes, Bobick stopped him in 8 in their rematch & Foreman "crushed him" ( but how many fighters didn't get crushed by Foreman, especially that 1970s version ), he was no Chuvalo. Never implied that he was.

[Kalan]

Chuvalo was no Chuvalo... Frazier and Foreman pounded George into stoppages in early rounds... Had Chuvalo fought other big hitters they no doubt would have done the same thing to him.

[sweetviolenturge]

Chuvalo was no Chuvalo... Frazier and Foreman pounded George into stoppages in early rounds... Had Chuvalo fought other big hitters they no doubt would have done the same thing to him.

Oh, so now Chuvalo didn't have a great chin? Lol.
Whatever dude. I refuse to get sucked into your contrarian game.

[BoxBuzz]

Chuvalo had a good homo sapien chin, but compared to Bigfoot, or A Silverback Gorilla, or one of those oversized "Greys" from outer space.....he was .....well.......human.

[Kalan]

Chuvalo was no Chuvalo... Frazier and Foreman pounded George into stoppages in early rounds... Had Chuvalo fought other big hitters they no doubt would have done the same thing to him.

Oh, so now Chuvalo didn't have a great chin? Lol.
Whatever dude. I refuse to get sucked into your contrarian game.

What's contrarian about a guy getting pounded out in an early round???? There were guys with stronger chins.

[sweetviolenturge]

Chuvalo was no Chuvalo... Frazier and Foreman pounded George into stoppages in early rounds... Had Chuvalo fought other big hitters they no doubt would have done the same thing to him.

Oh, so now Chuvalo didn't have a great chin? Lol.
Whatever dude. I refuse to get sucked into your contrarian game.

What's contrarian about a guy getting pounded out in an early round???? There were guys with stronger chins.

At heavyweight? Who?
Oliver McCall had a hell of a chin & was never stopped or dropped but, then again, he didn't face the same sort of opposition as Chuvalo. So, who had a better beard than him?

[SenorPipino]

Jeez.

Chuvalo had 93 fights over 22 years and fought a who's who's of heavyweights over that span.

He gets stopped twice BUT NEVER KNOCKED DOWN and Kalan says with a straight face that Chuvalo's chin wasn't all that.

I suppose he favors Joshua's chin as superior.

[Kalan]

Oh, so now Chuvalo didn't have a great chin? Lol.
Whatever dude. I refuse to get sucked into your contrarian game.

What's contrarian about a guy getting pounded out in an early round???? There were guys with stronger chins.

At heavyweight? Who?
Oliver McCall had a hell of a chin & was never stopped or dropped but, then again, he didn't face the same sort of opposition as Chuvalo. So, who had a better beard than him?

Opposition??? GTFO.... Who did Chuvalo ever face who was a big and powerful as Lennox Lewis??? .... NOBODY!!!!

Chuvalo was mostly facing little guys like Jimmy Ellis, Jerry Quarry, Doug Jones, (LHW) Floyd Patterson, Eduardo Corletti, and a dozen little guys you never heard of... McCall and Vitali were facing full big Heavyweight who could hit... Chuvalo turned his back on 204-pound Frazier and quit... 218lb Foreman smashed Chuvalo and they were forced to stop it.

Those 2 were the only prime punchers Chuvalo ever faced and they both stopped him early.

[sweetviolenturge]

What's contrarian about a guy getting pounded out in an early round???? There were guys with stronger chins.

At heavyweight? Who?
Oliver McCall had a hell of a chin & was never stopped or dropped but, then again, he didn't face the same sort of opposition as Chuvalo. So, who had a better beard than him?

Opposition??? GTFO.... Who did Chuvalo ever face who was a big and powerful as Lennox Lewis??? .... NOBODY!!!!

Chuvalo was mostly facing little guys like Jimmy Ellis, Jerry Quarry, Doug Jones, (LHW) Floyd Patterson, Eduardo Corletti, and a dozen little guys you never heard of... McCall and Vitali were facing full big Heavyweight who could hit... Chuvalo turned his back on 204-pound Frazier and quit... 218lb Foreman smashed Chuvalo and they were forced to stop it.

Those 2 were the only prime punchers Chuvalo ever faced and they both stopped him early.

Oh c'mon. Everyone has a right to their opinion but your's is just out of whack on this subject.
Chuvalo faced many other fighters that were damned good punchers than you mentioned. Men like Mike Dejohn, Bob Cleroux, Jerry Quarry & Oscar Bonavena were all big hitters who failed to drop Chuvalo.
As for his failure to fight anyone like Lennox Lewis during his career, there simply weren't any back during Chuvalo's era, so it's a moot point.

[oogiebe]

Both good chins with only fair power.

One of Cobb's quips was, "Oh, you're allowed to block or duck a punch?" Both had no defense, so if there were no cuts, they'd just keep hitting each other until time ran out.

I think the result would mirror the Cobb-Leon Spinks and the L. Spinks-Eddie Animal Lopez fights. I think one or both were draws - close fight.

LOL! It should be for like twenty rounds...or unlimited! First to drop loses.