Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko is Ordered By The IBF

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Golovkin vs. Derevyanchenko is Ordered By The IBF

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The sanctioning body allowed Golovkin to face late replacement Vanes Martirosyan on May 5th at the StubHub Center in Carson, California - but he must face Derevyanchenko next or risk losing his title.
Golovkin must agree in writing, before the contest with Vanes takes place, to fight Derevyanchenko within 90 days (by August 3) or he will be stripped of the belt.
If Golovkin does not agree to these terms by next Friday, the contest with Vanes will not receive an exception and he will risk losing the title.
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I think Golovkin would dump the IBF belt if the rematch with Canelo is getting made in September. Too much money in that fight. If the rematch doesn't happen in September, Golovkin could try to unify with Saunders and if he beats him then settle the rematch with Canelo on Cinco de Mayo 2019 regardless if GGG has all the titles or not. :TU:
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A few years ago Golovkin was struggling to find a top opponent. Now at 36 y/o with 3 major belts every top mw fighter wants a piece of him.
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That's a problem in this era with having to many belts.

It becomes almost impossible to meet all the mandatories.

I assume that Golovkin/Canelo will take place in September, despite all the predictable words and threats.

If so, Golovkin will dump the IBF title. It makes no sense to take on the little known Derevyanchenko for chump change, when perhaps the biggest payday of his career awaits in the form of Canelo II.

The fans don't really care about all these sanctioning body belts.

They want to see the big names battle each other. That's more important than preserving some jewelry around your waist.
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I feel that when Gennady eventually gains victories over Martirosyan and Canelo, he'll likely consider retirement.

I don't expect to see an ageing version of GGG that will be approaching 37 years of age facing the likes of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs, which are high-risk low-return type opponents.

When the IBF strap is inevitably stripped from Golovkin in August, this drastically reduces his motivation to face Billy Joe Saunders.

The Kazakh only needs two more victories to technically surpass Bernard Hopkins' middleweight title defence record, his legacy will then be secured and he'll be able to retire from the sport a wealthy and healthy man.

I know he previously claimed that he'd continue his career well into his forties, but I don't expect him to keep his promise whilst remaining unbeaten.

I strongly suspect that 2018 will be Gennady's final year in the sport.
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SenorPipino wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 11:25 That's a problem in this era with having to many belts.

It becomes almost impossible to meet all the mandatories.

I assume that Golovkin/Canelo will take place in September, despite all the predictable words and threats.

If so, Golovkin will dump the IBF title. It makes no sense to take on the little known Derevyanchenko for chump change, when perhaps the biggest payday of his career awaits in the form of Canelo II.

The fans don't really care about all these sanctioning body belts.

They want to see the big names battle each other. That's more important than preserving some jewelry around your waist.
:TU: Well said sir! At the end of the day “All Belts Do Is Collect Dust”. :OhYes:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 12:09 I feel that when Gennady eventually gains victories over Martirosyan and Canelo, he'll likely consider retirement.

I don't expect to see an ageing version of GGG that will be approaching 37 years of age facing the likes of Derevyanchenko, Charlo, Saunders, Andrade and Jacobs, which are high-risk low-return type opponents.

When the IBF strap is inevitably stripped from Golovkin in August, this drastically reduces his motivation to face Billy Joe Saunders.

The Kazakh only needs two more victories to technically surpass Bernard Hopkins' middleweight title defence record, his legacy will then be secured and he'll be able to retire from the sport a wealthy and healthy man.

I know he previously claimed that he'd continue his career well into his forties, but I don't expect him to keep his promise whilst remaining unbeaten.

I strongly suspect that 2018 will be Gennady's final year in the sport.
Yup. Golovkin would make life changing money from the rematch with Canelo and secure him and his family for life.
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apollo creed wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 12:18
SenorPipino wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 11:25 That's a problem in this era with having to many belts.

It becomes almost impossible to meet all the mandatories.

I assume that Golovkin/Canelo will take place in September, despite all the predictable words and threats.

If so, Golovkin will dump the IBF title. It makes no sense to take on the little known Derevyanchenko for chump change, when perhaps the biggest payday of his career awaits in the form of Canelo II.

The fans don't really care about all these sanctioning body belts.

They want to see the big names battle each other. That's more important than preserving some jewelry around your waist.
:TU: Well said sir! At the end of the day “All Belts Do Is Collect Dust”. :OhYes:
Those glitzy trinkets might impress the grandkids in 20 years.

But in a sport that today boasts about 50 different weight divisions and 150 "world" champions (not including interim and regular beltholders) those belts have become meaningless.

True fans know who the best fighters are. You don't need to have a manufactured strap around your waist to shine any brighter.
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Hey...just talking here, but I'd LOVE to see GGG fight twice in a 3 month span. If he can dispatch Vanes, and then schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko by late July or early August, I'm down.

He probably winds up just dropping the belt, but I'd prefer to see him squeeze the Derevyanchenko mandatory in there before the deadline.
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 14:34 Hey...just talking here, but I'd LOVE to see GGG fight twice in a 3 month span. If he can dispatch Vanes, and then schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko by late July or early August, I'm down.

He probably winds up just dropping the belt, but I'd prefer to see him squeeze the Derevyanchenko mandatory in there before the deadline.
Me too. Canelo can fight Spike in September like he was planning and fight Golovkin next May. Golovkin could find Derevo in August and BJS in December.
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 14:34 Hey...just talking here, but I'd LOVE to see GGG fight twice in a 3 month span. If he can dispatch Vanes, and then schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko by late July or early August, I'm down.

He probably winds up just dropping the belt, but I'd prefer to see him squeeze the Derevyanchenko mandatory in there before the deadline.

In this era, a problem with those quick turnarounds is making certain that he television networks can accommodate the fight.

If their schedule is already booked, fighters have to wait until there's an available opening.

No television, no fight.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 15:44
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 14:34 Hey...just talking here, but I'd LOVE to see GGG fight twice in a 3 month span. If he can dispatch Vanes, and then schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko by late July or early August, I'm down.

He probably winds up just dropping the belt, but I'd prefer to see him squeeze the Derevyanchenko mandatory in there before the deadline.
Me too. Canelo can fight Spike in September like he was planning and fight Golovkin next May. Golovkin could find Derevo in August and BJS in December.
You would be asking Golovkin to take 2 potentially very risky fights ahead of a guaranteed mega payday against Canelo.

Loeffler would never permit it.
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SenorPipino wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 18:15
boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 15:44
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 14:34 Hey...just talking here, but I'd LOVE to see GGG fight twice in a 3 month span. If he can dispatch Vanes, and then schedule a fight with Derevyanchenko by late July or early August, I'm down.

He probably winds up just dropping the belt, but I'd prefer to see him squeeze the Derevyanchenko mandatory in there before the deadline.
Me too. Canelo can fight Spike in September like he was planning and fight Golovkin next May. Golovkin could find Derevo in August and BJS in December.
You would be asking Golovkin to take 2 potentially very risky fights ahead of a guaranteed mega payday against Canelo.

Loeffler would never permit it.
I personally could give a damn less if we ever see a rematch with Canelo. It won't be on the level if it takes place, and all this postponing is just buying Canelo more time to make it lean even more heavily in his favor.

GGG has already beaten the man, and got told he didn't win so to hell with it as far as I'm concerned...as a fan.

That being said I know that GGG isn't gonna turn down the most money he's ever gonna make in his career. The rematch will take place either later this year or next May.
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Much better fight than watching Canelo doing minimal to steal another decision. GGG-Dere is the premier MW slugfest.
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 18:23 I personally could give a damn less if we ever see a rematch with Canelo. It won't be on the level if it takes place, and all this postponing is just buying Canelo more time to make it lean even more heavily in his favor.

GGG has already beaten the man, and got told he didn't win so to hell with it as far as I'm concerned...as a fan.

That being said I know that GGG isn't gonna turn down the most money he's ever gonna make in his career. The rematch will take place either later this year or next May.
Agreed.
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gilgamesh wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 18:23
SenorPipino wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 18:15
boxing_rocks wrote: 28 Apr 2018, 15:44
Me too. Canelo can fight Spike in September like he was planning and fight Golovkin next May. Golovkin could find Derevo in August and BJS in December.
You would be asking Golovkin to take 2 potentially very risky fights ahead of a guaranteed mega payday against Canelo.

Loeffler would never permit it.
I personally could give a damn less if we ever see a rematch with Canelo. It won't be on the level if it takes place, and all this postponing is just buying Canelo more time to make it lean even more heavily in his favor.

GGG has already beaten the man, and got told he didn't win so to hell with it as far as I'm concerned...as a fan.

That being said I know that GGG isn't gonna turn down the most money he's ever gonna make in his career. The rematch will take place either later this year or next May.

That is the truth. I would like to see a GGG - Canelo rematch - but not in stinking Mafia Vegas again. I'd prefer it to be in G's country, Khazakhstan, this time, but I'd even settle for Mexico.
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