Illegal boxing streams - the untalked about taboo subject

[Mimmy]

Think I'll need to stream the fight on Sat if possible.

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

ill be listening to the fight on Talksport, if im awake. I fly early Sunday morning so might not get to listen, but ill see.

[chad]

Think I'll need to stream the fight on Sat if possible.

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

They do have an official stream

https://skyboxoffice.neulion.com/

[Ruthless-RKO]

It's not illegal to watch a stream that has been uploaded illegally is it? It's only illegal for the person that has streamed it illegally?

If that makes sense?

[moogie101]

Think I'll need to stream the fight on Sat if possible.

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

I'm not getting the logic behind you refusing to pay for a ppv preferring to illegally stream it but then saying if a legit stream was available you'd pay for it!! What is the difference between paying for a ppv or paying for a stream?

People will still try to avoid paying for a fight, such is the Internet.

[TheLeprechaun]

Think I'll need to stream the fight on Sat if possible.

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

They do have an official stream

https://skyboxoffice.neulion.com/

Interesting. I never heard anything about that before. This is what I was looking for. I'm not sure this card warrants the money but it's good to know that the option might be there for future cards.

They should do this for ALL boxing content. I and many others have cancelled Sky because the only reason I subscribed was for the boxing.

[TheLeprechaun]

Think I'll need to stream the fight on Sat if possible.

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

I'm not getting the logic behind you refusing to pay for a ppv preferring to illegally stream it but then saying if a legit stream was available you'd pay for it!! What is the difference between paying for a ppv or paying for a stream?

People will still try to avoid paying for a fight, such is the Internet.

Sorry I mean't I was not going to sign up to Sky to view it because you need to sign up for the package. I would pay for their boxing content on HQ streams though. Even for some regular Sky Sports Fight Nights which many people stream.

[moogie101]

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

I'm not getting the logic behind you refusing to pay for a ppv preferring to illegally stream it but then saying if a legit stream was available you'd pay for it!! What is the difference between paying for a ppv or paying for a stream?

People will still try to avoid paying for a fight, such is the Internet.

Sorry I mean't I was not going to sign up to Sky to view it because you need to sign up for the package. I would pay for their boxing content on HQ streams though. Even for some regular Sky Sports Fight Nights which many people stream.

Yeah that actually makes sense, but I suppose sky would worry about losing subscribers if they offered it

[chad]

Its fights like this that lose money due to streaming. I aint paying a penny for it I can assure you. This is why they should have an official stream. I actually might possibly pay for it then. The world has changed now, the promotors and broadcasters have to adapt. I wouldn't chance wilder Joshua on a stream though. I'd be paying for that one. Same with canelo GGG. May weather PAC. Those fights I would 100% buy the official stream from sky/bn as I'm assuming many would.

They do have an official stream

https://skyboxoffice.neulion.com/

Interesting. I never heard anything about that before. This is what I was looking for. I'm not sure this card warrants the money but it's good to know that the option might be there for future cards.

They should do this for ALL boxing content. I and many others have cancelled Sky because the only reason I subscribed was for the boxing.

You can to a certain extent. Now TV sports 24 hour pass is £7.99. Allows access to all SKY Sports channels streamed at 720p. Picture quality is very good and stream pretty reliable.

https://www.nowtv.com/sports-purchase

Good for when there's a good fight on a Saturday night and decent Premiership games the next day.

B0xnati0n have an official stream too. £12 for the full month and 3 months worth of catch up and on demand content. Unable to post a link to it due to the "allegedly" filter on this website.

[Taansend]

I don't have tv stations, just internet. I stream boxing & football every week.

I'd pay a small amount to stream fights but not much. $5 or so. Maybe $10 or $15 for a major fight.

I'd pay a smaller amount for football although West Ham ain't worth a penny at the moment. Most big games are on at pubs these days now. Plus I live in a football friendly city.

[coneye]

They bring it on themselves by constantly charging ppv for shite fights ,and non worthy ppv's ,, Ok Eddie pratts on about the cost and what the boxers are making , but he would he's making shitloads , and to be honest i could'nt care less if Joshua has to drop down to 5 million a night to fight a easybeat , or Whyte has to drop from a couple of mill to 500 000 to fight a give me fight like Brown .

So for me If its Mayweather -paccy ,,,,, Fury --AJ .... AJ -- Klitchko then i will pay for ppv ,, ,but Whyte ---Brown ,,,, and lots of the other shite , stuff em , i'll watch a stream if i can find one ,, if not utube after if i''m still interested .

Its simple really put on GOOD ppv's and people will buy rather than risk missing out

[Wales]

I bought an Amazon firestick for £30 then I pay £50 a year and get

Every channel that’s on sky even the ones you pay extra for like allegedly, mufc tv etc....
Every single premier league game without fail
Every championship footy game
Every PPV (boxing, WWE etc...)
100 USA/ Canada channels (HBO, Fox whatever)
100 USA / Canada sports channels
100 international sports channels (from Dubai, France , Italy - all over the world)
PPV channels like UFC fightpass, WWE network etc...
And 3500 films - more are added daily

The layout of the app is virtually the same as sky so u don’t search for stuff just choose the category and click on the channel. For example chose category sport then click channel named sky sports news
There’s zero lag / buffering ever

My sky bill was around £100 a month without PPV purchases , so often £120+
Over a year I save minimum £1200 and have a better service.

[Mimmy]

It's not illegal to watch a stream that has been uploaded illegally is it? It's only illegal for the person that has streamed it illegally?

If that makes sense?

This is why its a grey area.

There needs to be a law that says watching illegal streams are a crime. The issue is that it would be atime consuming exercise for the police and would cost a lot of money.

8 million people watched the Mcgregor fiasco via illegal streams, not 1 was fined.

I think its is a responsibility from the broadcaster to find technology and use it that scrambles live broacasts, the technology will be there but possibly ourweighs the cost to use it.

The people who should be getting fined are those premium rate kodi add on sellers but many of the streams come from international sources.

If i was sky i would join forces with kodi and other mediums similar and either invest in elimination or invest in having the stream in a substandard quality such as SD for a lower fee.

Its a hard one to solve because the streams are not from this country.

Leeds utd sell legal streams of their matches along with every other championship club for £5. The only term is you have to be outside the uk to view it.

Anyone can register and pay their £5. Of course if you are sat in your armchair in Leeds theoretically you cant view it, but a simple vpn and you can. Are Leeds Utd bothered? No one has been fined, i have many leeds supporters watch matches this way. So in theory they are breaking the law too.

[jimcook]

sad times that most of the posters on here seem to accept the idea that we should be paying to watch sport on tv. Fukk that, ...I've never paid to watch sport on tv or the internet , and i never will . There is way too much money being diverted to all sorts of shysters, and very little of it ends up in the fighters pockets. sure, theres guys like joshua and mayweather etc who get huge sums but the majority cant even make a living. Why would i wantto give money to Kunts like sky, hearn,,bt, o2 etc,and all the other big business involved taking their percentages. I might feel differently if the money was spread out in a fairer manner,and most of it went to fighters, but , in professional sport it rarely happens.
I remember when tyson was coming up and sky tv started charging ppv over and above their subscription fees......and mugs were paying ridiculous money to watch fights that lasted 1 round, 2 rounds, even 90 seconds sometimes.....i thought , no way am i encourageing these thieving kunts- once you start handing over money for that where will it end?
I suppose it ends when posters start defining boxing fans who stream the occasional fight as thieves and criminals.

[banjo]

We live in an age where everyone wants something for fornicate all.

[Mimmy]

We live in an age where everyone wants something for eff all.

Everything is so damn expensive with little benefit at the end of it.

Its a fact of life, ppv, sugar tax, plastic bottle tax(introduced shortly) road tax and not getting what you pay for, tax for this and that. Life is all about pay out. If anyone can dodge a payment they will and good luck to them.

[whiskey]

The broadcasters have short-changed subscribers for boxing, they seem more interested in the PPV "events" that try to capture the public's imagination more.

That's all well and good, but those of us that watch boxing at all levels (not just the casuals) are starving to death on the regular broadcasts, to the point where it's not worth the outlay of £1000+ a year in subs.

But by not being a subscriber, it's very hard to buy events as stand-alone purchases. So they turn to streams.

SKY in particular are in a conundrum, as they need the reoccurring revenue of subscribers, so they cannot really adopt a pay-as-you go model.

Whereas ITV is free and they charge on top for the PPV events. That's the route all broadcasters should go in my opinion to banish streaming.

They should allow people to pick and choose what they like and pay accordingly. Rather than package dozens of sports up for £100 a month, many of which are of zero interest to most. The technology is there to carve sports up onto their own dedicated channel, and allow people to consume it how they please (Television or tablet, live or on demand).

[Mimmy]

The broadcasters have short-changed subscribers for boxing, they seem more interested in the PPV "events" that try to capture the public's imagination more.

That's all well and good, but those of us that watch boxing at all levels (not just the casuals) are starving to death on the regular broadcasts, to the point where it's not worth the outlay of £1000+ a year in subs.

But by not being a subscriber, it's very hard to buy events as stand-alone purchases. So they turn to streams.

SKY in particular are in a conundrum, as they need the reoccurring revenue of subscribers, so they cannot really adopt a pay-as-you go model.

Whereas ITV is free and they charge on top for the PPV events. That's the route all broadcasters should go in my opinion to banish streaming.

They should allow people to pick and choose what they like and pay accordingly. Rather than package dozens of sports up for £100 a month, many of which are of zero interest to most. The technology is there to carve sports up onto their own dedicated channel, and allow people to consume it how they please (Television or tablet, live or on demand).

Thats interesting and a valid point. I pay for the variety plus package but really only use sky for the kids tv and i often watch Gold and occasionally Challenge (for Bullseye)

Im not interested in all the drama stuff such as sky atlantic etc but i cant just buy what i really want.

To be honest id be happy paying for the kids stuff but again we only use 2 of those out of the 12 or how many there are. Im paying about £13 a month to watch repeats of Tom And Jerry and Mr Bean cartoons.

[TheLeprechaun]

sad times that most of the posters on here seem to accept the idea that we should be paying to watch sport on tv. Fukk that, ...I've never paid to watch sport on tv or the internet , and i never will . There is way too much money being diverted to all sorts of shysters, and very little of it ends up in the fighters pockets. sure, theres guys like joshua and mayweather etc who get huge sums but the majority cant even make a living. Why would i wantto give money to Kunts like sky, hearn,,bt, o2 etc,and all the other big business involved taking their percentages. I might feel differently if the money was spread out in a fairer manner,and most of it went to fighters, but , in professional sport it rarely happens.
I remember when tyson was coming up and sky tv started charging ppv over and above their subscription fees......and mugs were paying ridiculous money to watch fights that lasted 1 round, 2 rounds, even 90 seconds sometimes.....i thought , no way am i encourageing these thieving kunts- once you start handing over money for that where will it end?
I suppose it ends when posters start defining boxing fans who stream the occasional fight as thieves and criminals.

Lol, good post. Can't really disagree. Honestly makes me want to stream a PPV right now lol

[Pukka Cheese]

If a fight is worth the money iv got no problem paying for it.
Haye-Bellew 2 this weekend is a good example of a fight that i want to watch, but unwilling to pay 20quid for it....

Good quality streams are easier then ever to find IMO... Never bothered with VPNs, TOR etc & never had any letters from ISP for it.

All the people that are very anti-stream... I wonder if they paid for all the music on their phone/ipod/whatever? Watched a film from a stick? Used a cracked copy of MSword etc

[dookus]

The only way to fine viewers is to request access logs from the site hosting the stream. If that's Facebook then probably not such a problem - if it's a website domiciled somewhere that does not cooperate with foreign court orders then good luck ever getting that information.

Even if they could get the logs, a VPN would still mask a viewer's identity unless where they obtain server logs from the VPN service. Some VPNs keep logs and others don't - if the latter, then the viewers are essentially untraceable.

Much easier to go after the source of the stream as usually the feed / TV channel has been paid for with identifiable information (i.e. a credit card) through a payment method that keeps records.