GGG wants a 50-50 split with CANELO this time

[dickbelden]

will GGG get 50% ?

[jamamb]

if golden boy and canelo see him as really vulnerable, they may be willing to over pay him even more this time to ensure they avenge the draw/drug comments and get that excellent looking win on the resume before someone else does. not sure about 50-50 though

[gilgamesh]

I wouldn't have it any other way this time if I were him. After all the cancellation bullsh*t, and knowing damn well that the judges are gonna be against you it'd either be 50/50 or he can go f*ck himself.

[Enlightened-One]

will GGG get 50% ?

No. Not a chance.

[boxing_rocks]

If Canelo who [everybody knows] lost the first fight and is at fault for the cancellation, doesn't give GGG 50%, he can stick his money into his a$$. I suspect that is exactly what he will do, and I think that is good for Golovkin. He can fight Derevo, BJS, Murata, Charlo. No point to fight somebody you have already beaten.

[SenorPipino]

Canelo's the face of boxing.

There's no way he capitulates to a 50/50 split with a guy who isn't 30% of the PPV attraction that he is.

It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

Golovkin will be very happy with whatever he ends up taking home.

But if he isn't, he's welcome to look under rocks and try to find an equivalent payday elsewhere.

Meanwhile, Canelo will haul in his millions wherever he chooses.

[boxing_rocks]

Canelo's the face of boxing.

The one with needle marks all over it.

[Heretic]

GGG successfully defended against Canelo once. Got the big payday. I hope he leaves that "great face" of boxing alone and concentrates on building hes legacy for the rest of hes career. Everyone knows what happened in the first fight. No need for the rematch and another round of bullshit.

He could beat Saunders for that trinket hes got and maybe beat Jack after that for the last missing piece

Then he could give some of the rising stars a beating like Charlo for example and ride into the sunset unbeaten and undisputed

No need to rematch the vegas thug squad.

[DA1]

Fight Saunders and Murata, take home 70% in each. Sell out stadiums in Japan and the UK. Canelo is a decreasing asset. The rematch won't sell as much as the first. Many Mexican-Americans won't buy it as Canelo has taken a credibility hit. There's fresher pastures waiting and history to be made with Saunders and Murata.

[Kalan]

GGG should have gotten a 50/50 split for the FIRST fight... Along with the decision... No need to fight Clenelo for any less and he should even demand the Lion's share of 60/40 to fight the dirty cheating bastard.

Golovkin should focus on Billy Joe Saunders and then the 168 pound Title... and then 175... He won't beat Bivol or Kovalev but they will be fantastic fights for the fans to watch...

I personally do not want to see Clenelo fight anyone but Billy Joe Saunders or Daniel Jacobs.

[Enlightened-One]

GGG earned about $1m for last weekend's mismatch and he'd probably earn at least twenty times that amount to engage in a rematch against Canelo, regardless of what the Mexican is being paid, because animosity sells.

A grudge match between the pair would almost certainly generate far more money than their first outing, which was overshadowed by the Mayweather-McGregor circus event. Also, Money May's bout against the UFC fighter would have cannibalised the PPV sales of the GGG-Canelo fight.

Golovkin may want to receive a 50% split to face Canelo, but he's not going to get it. And he's not going to reject an amount of money for one bout that would likely be more than the combined purses he'd receive to face Saunders, Jacobs, Charlo and Derevyanchenko.

[Enlightened-One]

GGG earned about $1m for last weekend's mismatch and he'd probably earn at least twenty times that amount to engage in a rematch against Canelo, regardless of what the Mexican is being paid, because animosity sells.

A grudge match between the pair would almost certainly generate far more money than their first outing, which was overshadowed by the Mayweather-McGregor circus event. Also, Money May's bout against the UFC fighter would have cannibalised the PPV sales of the GGG-Canelo fight.

Golovkin may want to receive a 50% split to face Canelo, but he's not going to get it. And he's not going to reject an amount of money for one bout that would likely be more than the combined purses he'd receive to face Saunders, Jacobs, Charlo and Derevyanchenko.

[DA1]

GGG earned about $1m for last weekend's mismatch and he'd probably earn at least twenty times that amount to engage in a rematch against Canelo, regardless of what the Mexican is being paid, because animosity sells.

A grudge match between the pair would almost certainly generate far more money than their first outing, which was overshadowed by the Mayweather-McGregor circus event. Also, Money May's bout against the UFC fighter would have cannibalised the PPV sales of the GGG-Canelo fight.

Golovkin may want to receive a 50% split to face Canelo, but he's not going to get it. And he's not going to reject an amount of money for one bout that would likely be more than the combined purses he'd receive to face Saunders, Jacobs, Charlo and Derevyanchenko.

HBO entire's budget for that card was $1 million. On top of that the event went from PPV to cable TV, and on top of that they had to refund all the tickets for GGG-Canelo and move the card to California.

That is why the Derevchyenko fight didn't happen. Golovkin isn't taking chump change for a tough mandatory contender, and no mando is going to be taking 225k to fight Golovkin.

Golovkin made $2.5 million on the Jacobs fight. Don't act like $1 million is his normal rate. This was a complete messup from Canelo's side.

[Enlightened-One]

GGG earned about $1m for last weekend's mismatch and he'd probably earn at least twenty times that amount to engage in a rematch against Canelo, regardless of what the Mexican is being paid, because animosity sells.

A grudge match between the pair would almost certainly generate far more money than their first outing, which was overshadowed by the Mayweather-McGregor circus event. Also, Money May's bout against the UFC fighter would have cannibalised the PPV sales of the GGG-Canelo fight.

Golovkin may want to receive a 50% split to face Canelo, but he's not going to get it. And he's not going to reject an amount of money for one bout that would likely be more than the combined purses he'd receive to face Saunders, Jacobs, Charlo and Derevyanchenko.

HBO entire's budget for that card was $1 million. On top of that the event went from PPV to cable TV, and on top of that they had to refund all the tickets for GGG-Canelo and move the card to California.

That is why the Derevchyenko fight didn't happen. Golovkin isn't taking chump change for a tough mandatory contender, and no mando is going to be taking 225k to fight Golovkin.

Golovkin made $2.5 million on the Jacobs fight. Don't act like $1 million is his normal rate. This was a complete messup from Canelo's side.

Read my post again and pay attention to what I'm saying.

You're so offended about the fact that I pointed out Golovkin's measly purse for last weekend's mismatch that you've become blinded to the message I'm trying to convey.

Also, you need to learn how to add numbers together, because you unintentionally proved my point, which is kind of hilarious when you think about it!

Anyone possessing a mere modicum of intellect that read your comments, would feel compelled to agree that you've strengthened my argument!

[Mexi-Box]

He deserves it. Canelo cheated and he cost GGG money.

[coneye]

He should ask and deserves 50-50 , Canelo is on his use by date , He's cherry picked all along with his Canelo weight bullshit , he's got given a gift off a draw in his GGG fight , he's been found out to be a drug cheat , and above all that who's he gonna fight ,,, Jacobs don't think so not after Jacobs performance against GGG.

Saunders , you know what without the drugs for the weight , Canelo will get outboxed against Saunders , because Saunders can move and will be in tip top condition for that fight , and styles make fights

Charlo , naaw to much of an unknown at that level for drugelo , Honestly can't see why the mexicans go ape shit over him , good boxer , yeh for sure , but he only stands out when EVERYTHING is in his favor .

El Cheato Drugelo , needs GGG more than GGG needs him , especielly at this stage if he wants credability

[Thomastearns]

He should ask and deserves 50-50 , Canelo is on his use by date , He's cherry picked all along with his Canelo weight bullshit , he's got given a gift off a draw in his GGG fight , he's been found out to be a drug cheat , and above all that who's he gonna fight ,,, Jacobs don't think so not after Jacobs performance against GGG.

Saunders , you know what without the drugs for the weight , Canelo will get outboxed against Saunders , because Saunders can move and will be in tip top condition for that fight , and styles make fights

Charlo , naaw to much of an unknown at that level for drugelo , Honestly can't see why the mexicans go ape poo over him , good boxer , yeh for sure , but he only stands out when EVERYTHING is in his favor .

El Cheato Drugelo , needs GGG more than GGG needs him , especielly at this stage if he wants credability

Yes, Canelo might well be damaged goods now. Who knows what his standing is now? Are his fans still behind him? Do they really believe the contaminated meat story. Besides who can HE fight other than GGG? Some tough negotiations needed Mr Loefler.

Will Canelo ever agree to random testing? Is he still cheating? Who else knows?

He really seems to live in a world of his own. It's time that he cut the Prima Donna crap or else risk losing what's left of his credibility with his own fans.

Mexico has never been short of great boxers and might not need him as much he believes. The one thing he can't afford to risk is to walk away now. Far too many vested interests.

The Golovkin fight is his best, perhaps only chance at redemption.

[DA1]

GGG earned about $1m for last weekend's mismatch and he'd probably earn at least twenty times that amount to engage in a rematch against Canelo, regardless of what the Mexican is being paid, because animosity sells.

A grudge match between the pair would almost certainly generate far more money than their first outing, which was overshadowed by the Mayweather-McGregor circus event. Also, Money May's bout against the UFC fighter would have cannibalised the PPV sales of the GGG-Canelo fight.

Golovkin may want to receive a 50% split to face Canelo, but he's not going to get it. And he's not going to reject an amount of money for one bout that would likely be more than the combined purses he'd receive to face Saunders, Jacobs, Charlo and Derevyanchenko.

HBO entire's budget for that card was $1 million. On top of that the event went from PPV to cable TV, and on top of that they had to refund all the tickets for GGG-Canelo and move the card to California.

That is why the Derevchyenko fight didn't happen. Golovkin isn't taking chump change for a tough mandatory contender, and no mando is going to be taking 225k to fight Golovkin.

Golovkin made $2.5 million on the Jacobs fight. Don't act like $1 million is his normal rate. This was a complete messup from Canelo's side.

Read my post again and pay attention to what I'm saying.

You're so offended about the fact that I pointed out Golovkin's measly purse for last weekend's mismatch that you've become blinded to the message I'm trying to convey.

Also, you need to learn how to add numbers together, because you unintentionally proved my point, which is kind of hilarious when you think about it!

Anyone possessing a mere modicum of intellect that read your comments, would feel compelled to agree that you've strengthened my argument!

You really are thick aren't you? HBO paid $1 million. The proceeds for the event itself were well above that. Ever heard of ticket sales, or sponsorship?

Lemme guess, in your mind you were thinking "he said 1 million budget, but they got paid $1 million + 225k. That doesn't add up. GOT 'EM!"

How about read my posts as well? My point is, GGG doesn't need Canelo if he's unwilling to do the 50%. He can get 70% in back to back Saunders and Murata fights. There's money there as well (which there wasn't in a short-term Vanes or Derevchyenko fight). I don't think he should be wasting time with Canelo, period. Nevermind a 50/50 or whatever split. You're hung up on Canelo, I'm thinking beyond.

[Enlightened-One]

HBO entire's budget for that card was $1 million. On top of that the event went from PPV to cable TV, and on top of that they had to refund all the tickets for GGG-Canelo and move the card to California.

That is why the Derevchyenko fight didn't happen. Golovkin isn't taking chump change for a tough mandatory contender, and no mando is going to be taking 225k to fight Golovkin.

Golovkin made $2.5 million on the Jacobs fight. Don't act like $1 million is his normal rate. This was a complete messup from Canelo's side.

Read my post again and pay attention to what I'm saying.

You're so offended about the fact that I pointed out Golovkin's measly purse for last weekend's mismatch that you've become blinded to the message I'm trying to convey.

Also, you need to learn how to add numbers together, because you unintentionally proved my point, which is kind of hilarious when you think about it!

Anyone possessing a mere modicum of intellect that read your comments, would feel compelled to agree that you've strengthened my argument!

You really are thick aren't you? HBO paid $1 million. The proceeds for the event itself were well above that. Ever heard of ticket sales, or sponsorship?

Lemme guess, in your mind you were thinking "he said 1 million budget, but they got paid $1 million + 225k. That doesn't add up. GOT 'EM!"

How about read my posts as well? My point is, GGG doesn't need Canelo if he's unwilling to do the 50%. He can get 70% in back to back Saunders and Murata fights. There's money there as well. I don't think he should be wasting time with Canelo, period. Nevermind a 50/50 or whatever split. You're hung up on Canelo, I'm thinking beyond.

What I've said hasn't sunk in, has it? You haven't read my words.

You're talking about percentages, whereas I've been discussing cold hard cash.

It doesn't matter what percentages GGG is capable of earning against other fighters if his purse for those fights is a mere fraction of the amount of money he'd earn facing Canelo.

I'm only willing to defend my actual words, not your misinterpretation of them.

Don't comment on other people's words if you're unwilling to make the effort to either read or comprehend them.

Does it not embarrass you to realise that most of your comments bear no fûckîng relation to anything I've actually written?

[squiggy]

Canelo's the face of boxing.

Like Cosby's the face of comedy. Widespread perception now is that his connections jobbed GGG out of the win in the first fight, and now his shady hijinks (and probably straight-up cheating) cost us all the resolution that this weekend's rematch should've provided.

[oogiebe]

GGG is in the catbird seat at this point. Canelo's reputation is flawed now, and if GGG decides not to fight him, I don't blame him.

[DA1]

What I've said hasn't sunk in, has it? You haven't read my words.

You're talking about percentages, whereas I've been discussing cold hard cash.

It doesn't matter what percentages GGG is capable of earning against other fighters if his purse for those fights is a mere fraction of the amount of money he'd earn facing Canelo.

I'm only willing to defend my actual words, not your misinterpretation of them.

Joseph Parker got paid $12 million against Joshua alone. Golovkin easily makes $20 or $25 mill or more in the UK, and does the same in Japan against Murata. Easily fills up 50k arenas in each for an undisputed title fight.

If the average ticket price is $150 times 50k. That alone is $7.5 million, and that's an extreme lowball estimate. Not even factoring UK PPV sales, or Japanese TV fees.

Murata is already doing huge numbers on TV there and a Golovkin unification would easily fill up a 55k arena. Numbers that were very common in Japan for K-1/PRIDE and boxing events in the 2000s. The sponsorship money in Japan is big too, they don't do PPV there but they have advertising. Certain events on FujiTV or TBS do huge numbers (like crazy huge), this is one of those events because Japan has never had an undisputed fight at MW. Its like how Philippines stops when Pacquiao fights, except Japan has more money to be made from advertising spots.

Lose to Canelo and both go down the drain. The way I see it, GGG needs to ask himself "Does a guy who gets suspended even deserve to fight for an undisputed or unified title"? Its entirely about short-term vs long-term gains. Golovkin, who's spent years of his life taking on countless challengers, should be smart enough to make that decision, rather than opting for the fewer bouts. But Loeffler seems to have other plans, he wants the easy cash. Him and DeLa Hoya were talking about a REMATCH before the first fight even took place.

Don't comment on other people's words if you're unwilling to make the effort to either read or comprehend them.

Does it not embarrass you to realise that most of your comments bear no fûckîng relation to anything I've actually written?

Have you figured out how the bold functions works yet? I was responding to your statement bolded. I also don't have only you in mind, but adding to the topic overall (for others to read).

[Enlightened-One]

What I've said hasn't sunk in, has it? You haven't read my words.

You're talking about percentages, whereas I've been discussing cold hard cash.

It doesn't matter what percentages GGG is capable of earning against other fighters if his purse for those fights is a mere fraction of the amount of money he'd earn facing Canelo.

I'm only willing to defend my actual words, not your misinterpretation of them.

Joseph Parker got paid $12 million against Joshua alone. Golovkin easily makes $20 or $25 mill or more in the UK, and does the same in Japan against Murata. Easily fills up 50k arenas in each for an undisputed title fight.

If the average ticket price is $150 times 50k. That alone is $7.5 million, and that's an extreme lowball estimate. Not even factoring UK PPV sales, or Japanese TV fees.

Murata is already doing huge numbers on TV there and a Golovkin unification would easily fill up a 55k arena. Numbers that were very common in Japan for K-1/PRIDE and boxing events in the 2000s. The sponsorship money in Japan is big too, they don't do PPV there but they have advertising. Certain events on FujiTV or TBS do huge numbers (like crazy huge), this is one of those events because Japan has never had an undisputed fight at MW. Its like how Philippines stops when Pacquiao fights, except Japan has more money to be made from advertising spots.

Lose to Canelo and both go down the drain. The way I see it, GGG needs to ask himself "Does a guy who gets suspended even deserve to fight for an undisputed or unified title"? Its entirely about short-term vs long-term gains. Golovkin, who's spent years of his life taking on countless challengers, should be smart enough to make that decision, rather than opting for the fewer bouts. But Loeffler seems to have other plans, he wants the easy cash. Him and DeLa Hoya were talking about a REMATCH before the first fight even took place.

Don't comment on other people's words if you're unwilling to make the effort to either read or comprehend them.

Does it not embarrass you to realise that most of your comments bear no fûckîng relation to anything I've actually written?

Have you figured out how the bold functions works yet? I was responding to your statement bolded. I also don't have only you in mind, but adding to the topic overall (for others to read).

Quote extracts of my words that I've actually written that you object to and then I'll comment accordingly.

If you submit comments under the pretence of arguing with my claims, even though your words don't seem to relate to anything I've actually written, then this will confuse me.

Please revise the way you've articulated your argument, which should be framed in a manner that proves you've actually read my words, and I'll respond in a respectful manner.

[boxing_rocks]

My point is, GGG doesn't need Canelo if he's unwilling to do the 50%. He can get 70% in back to back Saunders and Murata fights. There's money there as well (which there wasn't in a short-term Vanes or Derevchyenko fight). I don't think he should be wasting time with Canelo, period. Nevermind a 50/50 or whatever split. You're hung up on Canelo, I'm thinking beyond.

Canelo still not being enrolled in random VADA testing makes their rematch even less likely.

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Joseph Parker got paid $12 million against Joshua alone. Golovkin easily makes $20 or $25 mill or more in the UK

I can't see Golovkin making even half that for a Saunders fight in the UK.

Parker fought a massive PPV attraction in Joshua. Saunders isn't even close to being in that ballpark, and Warren's events don't attract anywhere near as much casual attention as Hearn's, even if Saunders was a big draw.

Putting things in perspective, Kell Brook (at the time of the Golovkin fight) was a much bigger name over here than Saunders is now, despite it being middleweight vs welterweight. Brook was a highly popular fighter, signed to the best promoter as far as generating money goes, taking on a big risk. People took notice.

Outside of hardcore fans, Saunders isn't even that well known.

These were the reported purses for Golovkin vs Brook:

Golovkin - $5m flat fee.
Brook - $5m, plus any remaining PPV earnings.

There's no way in hell Golovkin is going to earn 4x that amount for fighting a less popular fighter. If his own profile has been raised, following the first Canelo fight, and US PPV pick it up, he MIGHT earn $10m.

If the average ticket price is $150 times 50k. That alone is $7.5 million, and that's an extreme lowball estimate. Not even factoring UK PPV sales

GGG vs Saunders also isn't big enough to be a stadium fight over here. It would most likely be at the O2 (around 20k capacity). Taking your average ticket price, that's only a $3m gate.

UK PPV, priced at £20 ($27) and doing 500k buys (a high estimate), brings in another $13.5m. That's $16.5m so far. It wouldn't be PPV in America if it was staged at UK time, so not a lot more to be made there. A bit from sponsorship and worldwide TV rights... You might be looking at a total generated sum of around $20m. Maybe slightly higher even, but that's before taking BT Sport's cut of the PPV money, Warren's cut (if he takes the same as Eddie, that's 20% off the top), any venue and security fees etc.

Before tax, I doubt that leaves Golovkin earning much more than for the Brook fight.

Held in the US, it's slightly different, because even 250k PPV buys at $70 gives you $17.5m, before anything else is added. 350k (a high, but realistic estimate) would give $24.5m, and so on.

If it happens, I think Saunders needs to travel.