Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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Who do you see winning if this happens? :bag:
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Re: Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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dunno, would like him to fight the wbss winner rather then trying to bring up lhws though
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jamamb wrote: 10 May 2018, 15:13 dunno, would like him to fight the wbss winner rather then trying to bring up lhws though
I was thinking this is the only loss in his record that hasn't been dealt with. Beat Adonis and retire as a happy man.
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Bellew was clearly drained, so I'd like to see it again at cruiser, but would that be fair on Adonis then as he ain't the tallest LH?

It should be his farewell fight at Goodison next summer, after he's had his big cashout fights.

End his career avenging the loss...
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bellew looked intimidated and gun shy from the start, im not sure him having to make lhw made a huge difference. think he was just in there with an elite puncher in there prime and couldnt cut it at that level. i dont think hes subsquently beaten anyone who at the time was as good as stevenson was. actually the fight was similar to the first 5 rounds of the haye I fight, where bellew was shelled up and looked timid, only stevenson lowered the boom in the 6th rather then blowing his leg out

but if stevensons going to be cherry picked and brought up to cruiser as a 40+ year old, maybe coming off a loss to jack, maybe the tables will turn. but i dont like this ward/stevenson stuff, give us a fight vs the undisputed cruiser champ who has your old belt! theres more glory in that then beating one of the other two.
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Re: Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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jamamb wrote: 10 May 2018, 15:13 dunno, would like him to fight the wbss winner rather then trying to bring up lhws though
Both the WBSS finalists would crush Bellew. Have some compassion Jammy :stop:
Avenging losses is what used to make good boxers great. I'm all for that.
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Re: Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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If in Britain at the end of this year, would you consider it a 50/50 fight? Assuming Stevenson beats Jack.
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Depends on how Stevenson looks against Jack. Adonis has only completed six rounds in over three years.

He also doesn't like to travel. I can't see this fight happening at all.
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Re: Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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i agree
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I'd take Bellew. Haye, as depleted as he was, was a hard dude! Bellew blew him away man! He deserves his props!
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Stuarty wrote: 10 May 2018, 18:27 I'd take Bellew. Haye, as depleted as he was, was a hard dude! Bellew blew him away man! He deserves his props!
Haye was fragile.
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If Stevenson doesn't take Badou out early then it'll likely be a tough, tough fight for him. Maybe even the kind of fight that, at 40 years old, doesn't allow him to get back to his devastating best. He'd be 41 by the time he'd potentially fight Bellew again. Say the Jack fight goes 12 hard rounds, a 41 year old who has just been the distance with Badou Jack (win or lose) may well be there for the taking.

That doesn't mean I'd definitely be picking Bellew over him, by the way.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 10 May 2018, 18:30
Stuarty wrote: 10 May 2018, 18:27 I'd take Bellew. Haye, as depleted as he was, was a hard dude! Bellew blew him away man! He deserves his props!
Haye was fragile.
He's a tough guy though. Bellew done a number on him. I don't particularly like the guy but credit where credit is due.
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jamamb wrote: 10 May 2018, 15:36 bellew looked intimidated and gun shy from the start, im not sure him having to make lhw made a huge difference. think he was just in there with an elite puncher in there prime and couldnt cut it at that level. i dont think hes subsquently beaten anyone who at the time was as good as stevenson was. actually the fight was similar to the first 5 rounds of the haye I fight, where bellew was shelled up and looked timid, only stevenson lowered the boom in the 6th rather then blowing his leg out

but if stevensons going to be cherry picked and brought up to cruiser as a 40+ year old, maybe coming off a loss to jack, maybe the tables will turn. but i dont like this ward/stevenson stuff, give us a fight vs the undisputed cruiser champ who has your old belt! theres more glory in that then beating one of the other two.
To be fair, Adonis was a beast at the time but Bellew wasn't super gunshy, just cautious (and rightly so). He opened up at times and threw some nice combos. I mean, he bloody floored him (that was a KD!) and after moved in for a stoppage. Adonis' sharp heavy counter punching was the difference is the end
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Re: Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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Adonis saying he'll come to the UK for a catchweight..

Looking for that payday eh.

Title or not, if Bellew can beat Adonis, then he would have beaten everyone who has stepped into the ring with him. Just like Lennox Lewis.
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Smoke and mirrors.

Bellew might as well call out Lennox come to think of it, win that and he’s Nritains greatest ever p4p.

Actually, give Lennox six months and I reckon he’d win :OhYes:
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Stuarty wrote: 10 May 2018, 18:27 I'd take Bellew. Haye, as depleted as he was, was a hard dude! Bellew blew him away man! He deserves his props!
hes always been fairly easy to hurt though even early in his career.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 May 2018, 12:01

Adonis saying he'll come to the UK for a catchweight..

Looking for that payday eh.

Title or not, if Bellew can beat Adonis, then he would have beaten everyone who has stepped into the ring with him. Just like Lennox Lewis.
Bellew looked ill there,no wonder he folded so easily.
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mustlogin wrote: 10 May 2018, 15:09 Who do you see winning if this happens? :bag:
Nice one! Tough to say. My first instinct was Adonis by ko late. But then the age thing...could be Bellew close dec.(?) :maybe:
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bigjack wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:20
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 May 2018, 12:01

Adonis saying he'll come to the UK for a catchweight..

Looking for that payday eh.

Title or not, if Bellew can beat Adonis, then he would have beaten everyone who has stepped into the ring with him. Just like Lennox Lewis.
Bellew looked ill there,no wonder he folded so easily.
He always looked like that. I don't think he beats Adonis now. I don't think Adonis is shot.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:17
Stuarty wrote: 10 May 2018, 18:27 I'd take Bellew. Haye, as depleted as he was, was a hard dude! Bellew blew him away man! He deserves his props!
hes always been fairly easy to hurt though even early in his career.
Yeah Ovil had him down heavy didn't he? Just thinking that Bellew looks pretty decent at cruiser and Adonis isn't getting any younger. Isn't he 40 now?
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Stuarty wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:59
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:17
Stuarty wrote: 10 May 2018, 18:27 I'd take Bellew. Haye, as depleted as he was, was a hard dude! Bellew blew him away man! He deserves his props!
hes always been fairly easy to hurt though even early in his career.
Yeah Ovil had him down heavy didn't he? Just thinking that Bellew looks pretty decent at cruiser and Adonis isn't getting any younger. Isn't he 40 now?
i meant haye.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:03
Stuarty wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:59
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:17

hes always been fairly easy to hurt though even early in his career.
Yeah Ovil had him down heavy didn't he? Just thinking that Bellew looks pretty decent at cruiser and Adonis isn't getting any younger. Isn't he 40 now?
i meant haye.
Ahh apologies :TU:

Yeah Hayes been rocked a fair few times. Who was it that had him down and hurt early in his career? Was it that Lolenga Mock dude?
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Stuarty wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:08
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:03
Stuarty wrote: 11 May 2018, 15:59

Yeah Ovil had him down heavy didn't he? Just thinking that Bellew looks pretty decent at cruiser and Adonis isn't getting any younger. Isn't he 40 now?
i meant haye.
Ahh apologies :TU:

Yeah Hayes been rocked a fair few times. Who was it that had him down and hurt early in his career? Was it that Lolenga Mock dude?
Yeh it was Mock
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Re: Tony Bellew vs Adonis Stevenson II @cruiserweight

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bigjack wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:23
Stuarty wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:08
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:03

i meant haye.
Ahh apologies :TU:

Yeah Hayes been rocked a fair few times. Who was it that had him down and hurt early in his career? Was it that Lolenga Mock dude?
Yeh it was Mock
:TU:

He's still bloody going as well! Had a few decent wins recently actually.
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