Alexander Povetkin vs. Jarrell Miller.

[oogiebe]

The first article is from January mate, so maybe you should read it yourself.

The second article has a few quotes, but I have Hearn with the words actually leaving his mouth. Yeah, just yeah.

The second article was very recent and Ryabinskiy's words were consistent to the claims previously articulated by Eddie Hearn, regardless of the timelines, which means that the situation hasn't changed one iota.

The bottom line: Team AJ & Team Povetkin are both singing from the same hymn sheet.

"Yeah, just yeah."

So you're going to ignore the words that Mr Hearn spoke a matter of weeks ago.? Hmmm, interesting strategy FUGMO.

I keep all of Hearns words in the same file..."salesman's puffery." (I'm being nice).

[Ilya Muromets]

Povetkin puts a beating on Miller. Not impressed with Miller at all. Wach would've probably beaten him had he not injured himself and came into the fight in any shape at all.

I totally agree with this post, except i kind of like the big baby, but i don't see him as championship material. His Polish friend though, another baby, Baby Face Kownacki, i can see him pulling an upset.

[Enlightened-One]

The first article is from January mate, so maybe you should read it yourself.

The second article has a few quotes, but I have Hearn with the words actually leaving his mouth. Yeah, just yeah.

The second article was very recent and Ryabinskiy's words were consistent to the claims previously articulated by Eddie Hearn, regardless of the timelines, which means that the situation hasn't changed one iota.

The bottom line: Team AJ & Team Povetkin are both singing from the same hymn sheet.

"Yeah, just yeah."

So you're going to ignore the words that Mr Hearn spoke a matter of weeks ago.? Hmmm, interesting strategy FUGMO.

I've quoted Eddie's words already. I also quoted Povetkin's promoters words also.

You're pretending that Joshua vacating his WBA title is a likely event, when it's not.

[candyslim]

Joshua is in the business of collecting belts not shedding them, at least not until he has achieved his unification goal when, point having been made, he may then be less inclined to run around keeping all the plates spinning in the air.

That doesn't mean Hearn was bluffing, but the intention was simply to mark Ryabinsky's card for him i.e. letting him know Sasha can enjoy a spectacular payday in London, alternatively he can face A.N. Other in Moscow for the vacant title.

Ryabinski is no fool and went with the flow. As a fight fan isn't it nice to see two sides working toward the same end without endless histrionics and general bullshit?

[keithmoonhangover]

The second article was very recent and Ryabinskiy's words were consistent to the claims previously articulated by Eddie Hearn, regardless of the timelines, which means that the situation hasn't changed one iota.

The bottom line: Team AJ & Team Povetkin are both singing from the same hymn sheet.

"Yeah, just yeah."

So you're going to ignore the words that Mr Hearn spoke a matter of weeks ago.? Hmmm, interesting strategy FUGMO.

I've quoted Eddie's words already. I also quoted Povetkin's promoters words also.

You're pretending that Joshua vacating his WBA title is a likely event, when it's not.

If the fight lands in Russia, it is.

Let me just ask you this question. Which source is more reliable?

1., A quote of someone on a web-site.
2. A video of the person speaking.

[Enlightened-One]

So you're going to ignore the words that Mr Hearn spoke a matter of weeks ago.? Hmmm, interesting strategy FUGMO.

I've quoted Eddie's words already. I also quoted Povetkin's promoters words also.

You're pretending that Joshua vacating his WBA title is a likely event, when it's not.

If the fight lands in Russia, it is.

Let me just ask you this question. Which source is more reliable?

1., A quote of someone on a web-site.
2. A video of the person speaking.

They're both equally reliable if the same story is being reported by multiple sources. I've also seen Eddie say the words I quoted.

So in my mind, it's a double-whammy in terms of the claims I've made.

For the record, there's no evidence to suggest that Team Povetkin will even try to outbid Matchroom and stage the bout in Russia.

[keithmoonhangover]

I've quoted Eddie's words already. I also quoted Povetkin's promoters words also.

You're pretending that Joshua vacating his WBA title is a likely event, when it's not.

If the fight lands in Russia, it is.

Let me just ask you this question. Which source is more reliable?

1., A quote of someone on a web-site.
2. A video of the person speaking.

They're both equally reliable if the same story is being reported by multiple sources. I've also seen Eddie say the words I quoted.

So in my mind, it's a double-whammy in terms of the claims I've made.

For the record, there's no evidence to suggest that Team Povetkin will even try to outbid Matchroom and stage the bout in Russia.

For the record there is. Hearn says it is. He said that if he loses the purse bid and it's being staged in Russia, then Joshua will likely vacate. He even says why. You can't get better evidence than Hearn saying it. If they don't agree terms,, then this fight will go to purse bids. Nice talking to you FUGMO

[keithmoonhangover]

There was some talk about Povetkin fighting for WBA and nothing else, so Joshua apparently must vacate, if he chooses another fight (reasonably it can be only Wilder). Then there's an opportunity of Povetkin-Miller bout for the title.

Technically-speaking, you're right, but Eddie Hearn has limited the scope of AJ's next opponents to Wilder, Povetkin and Miller (in that order of preference), which means that the likelihood of Joshua vacating the WBA strap hasn't even been considered (yet).

Here you go Fugmo, this is just for you. @ 27:09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OZeTxJQ7k

Hearn says, "You can't necesarilly rule out him dropping a belt". It's alright, I accept your apology. .

[Enlightened-One]

There was some talk about Povetkin fighting for WBA and nothing else, so Joshua apparently must vacate, if he chooses another fight (reasonably it can be only Wilder). Then there's an opportunity of Povetkin-Miller bout for the title.

Technically-speaking, you're right, but Eddie Hearn has limited the scope of AJ's next opponents to Wilder, Povetkin and Miller (in that order of preference), which means that the likelihood of Joshua vacating the WBA strap hasn't even been considered (yet).

Here you go Fugmo, this is just for you. @ 27:09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OZeTxJQ7k

Hearn says, "You can't necesarilly rule out him dropping a belt". It's alright, I accept your apology. .

He's talking hypothetically during a casual chat. Matchroom aren't planning to drop the belt, because there's no reason for AJ to do so yet. They aren't considering it.

Team Povetkin's latest words confirm their own plans to fight in the UK. I've already shown them to you.

There's a clear difference between discussing possibilities relating to imaginary scenarios and seriously considering performing actions that have real-world implications.

I could speculate about what I'd do if I was invited to engage in an orgy with a bevvy of glamour models.

However, I am not seriously considering copulating with a bevvy of glamour models, because there's no reason for me to make that decision in the real world.

Do you understand the difference?

[keithmoonhangover]

You said dropping a belt hasn't been considered. It has been considered, as mentioned in the video. If you're too stubborn to admit that, then that's your problem. You can waffle on trying to worm your way out of it, but just ask yourself why you feel the need to always be right. Maybe you're insecure or you didn't get enough attention as a child. Anyway, you obviously want the last word on this, so here you go, the floor is yours. Bye Fugmo.

[Enlightened-One]

You said dropping a belt hasn't been considered. It has been considered, as mentioned in the video. If you're too stubborn to admit that, then that's your problem. You can waffle on trying to worm your way out of it, but just ask yourself why you feel the need to always be right. Maybe you're insecure or you didn't get enough attention as a child. Anyway, you obviously want the last word on this, so here you go, the floor is yours. Bye Fugmo.

Which one of these words more accurately reflect the nature of Eddie Hearn's thoughts from the iFL TV interview?

Speculate = To make an inference based on inconclusive evidence; to surmise or conjecture.

Ponder = To consider (something) carefully and thoroughly; to chew over, to mull over.

The sort of language the Matchroom boss was using was purposely vague and for good reason, since AJ currently has no intention to vacate any of his titles, which means that Eddie was merely speculating on a hypothetical situation that is unlikely to become a reality.

[oogiebe]

Um...anyone chatting about Povetkin/Miller anymore?

[candyslim]

Well since you ask I'd be willing to bet you that if they did meet, Miller rolls right over him. He's too big, too strong, too fresh, and he's relentless - like a combine harvester with boxing gloves.

I'm not disrespecting Povetkin, he's a very fine fighter but time and tide wait for no man.

[oogiebe]

Well since you ask I'd be willing to bet you that if they did meet, Miller rolls right over him. He's too big, too strong, too fresh, and he's relentless - like a combine harvester with boxing gloves.

I'm not disrespecting Povetkin, he's a very fine fighter but time and tide wait for no man.

I'll take that bet. Now we have to wait.

[candyslim]

Well since you ask I'd be willing to bet you that if they did meet, Miller rolls right over him. He's too big, too strong, too fresh, and he's relentless - like a combine harvester with boxing gloves.

I'm not disrespecting Povetkin, he's a very fine fighter but time and tide wait for no man.

I'll take that bet. Now we have to wait.
[/quote]

Now why couldn't Hearn and Joshua be so accommodating as that ?

A pleasure doing business with you Oogie. I'll revert with details about the stake money, the applicable odds and the other terms and conditions that apply, a little nearer the time

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Oh no, not you too.

Please rewatch the massacre and give us your scorecard.

If you somehow gave more than 2 rounds to Duhaupus, it's only because you focused too much on the guy who was pouring blood and reeling the entire night.

- Senor, been snoring in yer soiled easy chair in front of your telly, eh?

Since you've been savaging boxrec favorite poster Kalan for his prolific misrepresentations of The Truth, well, in this case you sweeties were correct in savaging the idiocy of Luis' expanded heavy divisions, so good job, but then you went and opened your gob. Shame that, but truth is your Bronze Bambi got the Pipino beat out him by this TBA as has happened in all his many TBA defenses against journeyman types. Had Duphaupas looked like Bambi, you know the suits would have had it stopped 4 rounds earlier, so this is what you missed, and please note who looks like the gargoyle:









Contemplating about how dumb you, Luis, and Bambi would be together has dumbfounded me down to your monkey shines, hence as this little sliver: Everyone knows folks are prejudiced against heavyweights for this and that, et al and won't allow them to jump divisions, so what if we go further with Luis' misanthropy by allowing them to jump 4 lbs into new, more expansive heavy divisions? Ex: 175-179 the yocto heavies, 179-183 the nano heavies and so on and so forth up to 300+ lbs reserved for the Blubber Bubbas, what, 30+ heavy divisions and 120+ belts, why clearly the heavies would now properly shine over the pipsqueaks Pipinos under them as was meant to be by our Creator.

Now, that's the ticket!