Did Sonny Liston take a dive against Ali?

[Kalan]

It doesn't matter to me who's right or wrong.... Ali was wrong for defying the referee and YOU KNOW IT!!!!!

So deduct a point from him...and nothing changes.

The dive is still taken, and the result is still the same.

DQ him and there would've been a riot. 100% guaranteed.

DQ would've prompted an overturning of that decision, had it happened.

If a boxer defies the referee for the entire count (any boxer but Ali) he gets a DQ.... 100%... The referee has no choice at that point.... The guy is running around the ring defying the referee... He has no choice but to DQ him in most cases.

[oogiebe]

It's ridiculous to think any HW champ would be DQ'd for that. The ref (bad example in this case) would never ref a big event ever again. Maybe not even club matches.

[gilgamesh]

So deduct a point from him...and nothing changes.

The dive is still taken, and the result is still the same.

DQ him and there would've been a riot. 100% guaranteed.

DQ would've prompted an overturning of that decision, had it happened.

If a boxer defies the referee for the entire count (any boxer but Ali) he gets a DQ.... 100%... The referee has no choice at that point.... The guy is running around the ring defying the referee... He has no choice but to DQ him in most cases.

This argument is beyond absurd. I'm locking this topic.