Fury cousins as Klitschko brothers ?

[gilgamesh]

I imagine Fury wants to be undisputed, for all the people who'd argue that you have to have all 4 belts to be such.

i dont think anyone serious would say that. ... you have to beat the man to be the man. fury beat klitschko, was it 2 or 3 years ago. he was the man. with fury retired, aj v wilder would unite all the belts and that guy would be the man. ... but now with fury coming back, he will say he is still the man! ... aj & wilder better fight soon whislt that bout is still hot!

The Klitschko's shared the top belts. Wladimir undersold himself a little. The winner of Joshua and Wilder holds all the belts. Not really a fair comparison, otherwise Joshua is already the top guy. He's done what Wladmir did, and Fury did it before him.

The goal between these two now is to get all 5 of the belts, not just the four Wladimir held.

There is no 5th belt that matters

[oogiebe]

i dont think anyone serious would say that. ... you have to beat the man to be the man. fury beat klitschko, was it 2 or 3 years ago. he was the man. with fury retired, aj v wilder would unite all the belts and that guy would be the man. ... but now with fury coming back, he will say he is still the man! ... aj & wilder better fight soon whislt that bout is still hot!

The Klitschko's shared the top belts. Wladimir undersold himself a little. The winner of Joshua and Wilder holds all the belts. Not really a fair comparison, otherwise Joshua is already the top guy. He's done what Wladmir did, and Fury did it before him.

The goal between these two now is to get all 5 of the belts, not just the four Wladimir held.

There is no 5th belt that matters

"5th belt" I can't help but get pissed. Four belts. Four BS orgs. WBS: World Bull Sh#T

[DA1]

The Klitschko's shared the top belts. Wladimir undersold himself a little. The winner of Joshua and Wilder holds all the belts. Not really a fair comparison, otherwise Joshua is already the top guy. He's done what Wladmir did, and Fury did it before him.

The goal between these two now is to get all 5 of the belts, not just the four Wladimir held.

There is no 5th belt that matters

The IBO heavyweight belt's lineage is just as strong as the WBO's if not more. Every undisputed and predominant (AJ, Fury, Wlad) HW champ since the 2000s has held it, and they still do. Lennox and Hasim both held the IBO belt but not the WBO.

[oogiebe]

The Klitschko's shared the top belts. Wladimir undersold himself a little. The winner of Joshua and Wilder holds all the belts. Not really a fair comparison, otherwise Joshua is already the top guy. He's done what Wladmir did, and Fury did it before him.

The goal between these two now is to get all 5 of the belts, not just the four Wladimir held.

There is no 5th belt that matters

The IBO heavyweight belt's lineage is just as strong as the WBO's if not more. Every undisputed or dominant HW champ since the 2000s has held it, and they still do. Lennox and Hasim both held the IBO belt but not the WBO.

So? I can make an argument for the WBC belt (Ali/Holmes, etc). So?

[gilgamesh]

The Klitschko's shared the top belts. Wladimir undersold himself a little. The winner of Joshua and Wilder holds all the belts. Not really a fair comparison, otherwise Joshua is already the top guy. He's done what Wladmir did, and Fury did it before him.

The goal between these two now is to get all 5 of the belts, not just the four Wladimir held.

There is no 5th belt that matters

The IBO heavyweight belt's lineage is just as strong as the WBO's if not more. Every undisputed or dominant HW champ since the 2000s has held it, and they still do. Lennox and Hasim both held the IBO belt but not the WBO.

There's only 1 World Champion.

All that matters is Who's #1

Everybody else is a contender with a belt. We don't need an endless amount of worthless belts.

[oogiebe]

There is no 5th belt that matters

The IBO heavyweight belt's lineage is just as strong as the WBO's if not more. Every undisputed or dominant HW champ since the 2000s has held it, and they still do. Lennox and Hasim both held the IBO belt but not the WBO.

There's only 1 World Champion.

All that matters is Who's #1

Everybody else is a contender with a belt. We don't need an endless amount of worthless belts.

Exactly!

[DA1]

So? I can make an argument for the WBC belt (Ali/Holmes, etc). So?

They're after that one too. So what IS your point?
They already hold the IBO (and paying that 2% fee), im not the one forcing them to.

There's only 1 World Champion.

All that matters is Who's #1

Everybody else is a contender with a belt. We don't need an endless amount of worthless belts.

Went from "no 5th belt"... straight to #1. LMAO.

You can be #1 and hold multiple belts. Stick to your own point, goofy. You claimed there is no 5th belt that matters. Why not the 2nd, 3rd or 4th belt. Boy you switched up real FAST. Now its #1.

The #1 for the last 20 years has held the IBO belt too, if that's what you want me to say. It is about being #1. no doubt. Might want to look up the phrases "mutually exclusive" and inclusive.

[gilgamesh]

My point is that we already got 3 too many "World Champions" as is. Why do we need 4 too many?

[oogiebe]

So? I can make an argument for the WBC belt (Ali/Holmes, etc). So?

They're after that one too. So what IS your point?
They already hold the IBO (and paying that 2% fee), im not the one forcing them to.

There's only 1 World Champion.

All that matters is Who's #1

Everybody else is a contender with a belt. We don't need an endless amount of worthless belts.

Went from "no 5th belt"... straight to #1. LMAO.

You can be #1 and hold multiple belts. Stick to your own point, goofy. You claimed there is no 5th belt that matters. Why not the 2nd, 3rd or 4th belt. Boy you switched up real FAST. Now its #1.

The #1 for the last 20 years has held the IBO belt too, if that's what you want me to say. It is about being #1. not doubt. Might want to look up the phrases "mutually exclusive" and inclusive.

Point is that the fighters have to fight. Not the fanboys making up scenarios to prove their fighter is great. I'm sick of the WB'alls! You are either the best or you're not. Belts mean sh#t. So until the two biggest kids on the block fight, we have 1A and 1B.

[DA1]

Point is that the fighters have to fight. Not the fanboys making up scenarios to prove their fighter is great. I'm sick of the WB'alls! You are either the best or you're not. Belts mean sh#t. So until the two biggest kids on the block fight, we have 1A and 1B.

I hold no favorite. Stick to the topic, goofy.
We're talking about sharing belts like the Klitschkos did. I claimed Fury's not sharing, he wants all 5 belts! As does AJ.

[oogiebe]

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I hold no favorite. Stick to the topic, goofy.
We're talking about sharing belts like the Klitschkos did. I claimed Fury's not sharing, he wants all 5 belts!
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Goofy? Oh Jeez, another Kalan! You made the claim of the Fury's??? and you're calling ME goofy???? LMFAO!!!! What a dope!

[DA1]

Goofy? Oh Jeez, another Kalan! You made the claim of the Fury's??? and you're calling ME goofy???? LMFAO!!!! What a dope!

Does AJ have a brother or cousin who's fighting for the belts I'm unaware of?

[gilgamesh]

Fighting for belts, and being capable of winning them is two different things. Hughie sucks, Tyson sucks. They're stars because of their mouths, but they'll always be guys whose mouths write checks their asses can't cash.

[oogiebe]

Goofy? Oh Jeez, another Kalan! You made the claim of the Fury's??? and you're calling ME goofy???? LMFAO!!!! What a dope!

Does AJ have a brother or cousin who's fighting for the belts I'm unaware of?

WTF are you talking about? Maybe the issue here is that your topic pretty much sucks and your comparison of the Fury's to the Klitchkos make you sound, well, ...not very bright. Maybe if someone made a valid point, I'll be back, but I doubt it.

[DA1]

Fighting for belts, and being capable of winning them is two different things. Hughie sucks, Tyson sucks. They're stars because of their mouths, but they'll always be guys whose mouths write checks their asses can't cash.

Wasn't really my point, so I don't care. I like Tyson and AJ both. Hughie isn't winning shit. It'll be between Tyson and AJ, but they'll hold all 5 belts. Or they want to.

You two got triggered because I mentioned the IBO.

I'm not one to obsess over belts either, but the people who claim they don't be the same ones always bickering about the IBO, not me. I'll just say this, there were IBO undisputed champs before there ever was a WBO undisputed champ (in boxing in general, not just at HW). Roy Jones, Lennox, Hasim were all undisputed champs who never held the WBO. The WBO is only a recognized title because Warren and Sky Sports, promoted it as such. It only got got accepted in the US after Hopkins unified it with his existing undisputed belt (IBF, WBA, WBC) in 2004. Then suddenly it went from "3 world titles" to being 4. The IBF itself gained recognition by giving away free belts to existing champions. The IBO was neither in bed with promoters like the others, nor did it ever give free belts, otherwise they'd be the "5th major world title" right now too.

[DA1]

WTF are you talking about? Maybe the issue here is that your topic pretty much sucks and your comparison of the Fury's to the Klitchkos make you sound, well, ...not very bright. Maybe if someone made a valid point, I'll be back, but I doubt it.

I didn't start the topic, dumbass.

I gave my opinion like the dozens others here. I said, there is NO comparison. Because Tyson won't share belts.

You need a mental leave. All your confusion is confusing me too.

[oogiebe]

WTF are you talking about? Maybe the issue here is that your topic pretty much sucks and your comparison of the Fury's to the Klitchkos make you sound, well, ...not very bright. Maybe if someone made a valid point, I'll be back, but I doubt it.

I didn't start the topic, dumbass.

I gave my opinion like the dozens others here. I said, there is NO comparison. Because Tyson won't share belts.

You need a mental leave. All your confusion is confusing me too.

Ok, now I'm confused.

[oogiebe]

WTF are you talking about? Maybe the issue here is that your topic pretty much sucks and your comparison of the Fury's to the Klitchkos make you sound, well, ...not very bright. Maybe if someone made a valid point, I'll be back, but I doubt it.

I didn't start the topic, dumbass.

I gave my opinion like the dozens others here. I said, there is NO comparison. Because Tyson won't share belts.

You need a mental leave. All your confusion is confusing me too.

Ok, now I'm confused.

lol

[gilgamesh]

Fighting for belts, and being capable of winning them is two different things. Hughie sucks, Tyson sucks. They're stars because of their mouths, but they'll always be guys whose mouths write checks their asses can't cash.

Wasn't really my point, so I don't care. I like Tyson and AJ both. Hughie isn't winning poo. It'll be between Tyson and AJ, but they'll hold all 5 belts. Or they want to.

You two got triggered because I mentioned the IBO.

I'm not one to obsess over belts either, but the people who claim they don't be the same ones always bickering about the IBO, not me. I'll just say this, there were IBO undisputed champs before there ever was a WBO undisputed champ (in boxing in general, not just at HW). Roy Jones, Lennox, Hasim were all undisputed champs who never held the WBO. The WBO is only a recognized title because Warren and Sky Sports, promoted it as such. It only got got accepted in the US after Hopkins unified it with his existing undisputed belt (IBF, WBA, WBC) in 2004. Then suddenly it went from "3 world titles" to being 4. The IBF itself gained recognition by giving away free belts to existing champions. The IBO was neither in bed with promoters like the others, nor did it ever give free belts, otherwise they'd be the "5th major world title" right now too.

Tyson is 3rd behind Wilder. He won't be relevant at the top ever again. He'll be one half of a KO loss in a World Title fight at some point in the future, and that's about it for 'ol Cokey McFat

[DA1]

WTF are you talking about? Maybe the issue here is that your topic pretty much sucks and your comparison of the Fury's to the Klitchkos make you sound, well, ...not very bright. Maybe if someone made a valid point, I'll be back, but I doubt it.

I didn't start the topic, dumbass.

I gave my opinion like the dozens others here. I said, there is NO comparison. Because Tyson won't share belts.

You need a mental leave. All your confusion is confusing me too.

Ok, now I'm confused.

I did not start this thread. I responded to it.

And I said, it won't happen because Tyson wants all the belts for himself. He wants to be undisputed (not let Hughie hold a belt like Wladmir did with Vitaly).

You two are so reactionary that you got triggered and off about some other sh-t (5th belts, and IBO) that wasn't even my point. In any case: everyone at HW wants 5 belts, not 3, not even 4. The goal is 5 belts, for AJ and Tyson. They already held the IBO, so stop getting on my nuts about it. I didn't force them to.

[gilgamesh]

Well...I'd say I've spent enough time on this.

Good day

[oogiebe]

Same...ciao!