Rematches YOU want to see

ValMar
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Wilder-Ortiz 2 would be interesting, but I think it is not a realistic scenario right now (in fact, it will never be)..........
Heretic
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Someone is doing the necromancy thing again :twisted:
Heretic
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Re: Rematches YOU want to see

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Ill bite anyways :lol:

There is no need for Linares vs Lomachenko 2. The first win was decisive.

I would like to see Whyte vs AJ number 2.

Whyte vs Helenius 2 would be good too. I think well prepared Helenius could take that one.
Enlightened-One
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RobLancs79 wrote: 07 Nov 2016, 12:44Rematches YOU want to see
Whyte-Chisora II (as long as Dereck is prepared and motivated for the bout)
KiwiRider
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Enlightened-One wrote: 14 May 2018, 05:08
RobLancs79 wrote: 07 Nov 2016, 12:44Rematches YOU want to see
Whyte-Chisora II (as long as Dereck is prepared and motivated for the bout)
That would have been great a few months after the first one. It was inconclusive- to me anyway.
Now, I don't think Del Boy has what he had back then. Also look at where they are now, Whyte sizing up AJ/Wilder/Povitkin and Del Boy being mentioned against Joyce..
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KiwiRider wrote: 14 May 2018, 06:20
Enlightened-One wrote: 14 May 2018, 05:08
RobLancs79 wrote: 07 Nov 2016, 12:44Rematches YOU want to see
Whyte-Chisora II (as long as Dereck is prepared and motivated for the bout)
That would have been great a few months after the first one. It was inconclusive- to me anyway.
Now, I don't think Del Boy has what he had back then. Also look at where they are now, Whyte sizing up AJ/Wilder/Povitkin and Del Boy being mentioned against Joyce..
I can't disagree with you. All I know is that Chisora is incredibly inconsistent, which kind of makes him dangerous, because his opponents' are never sure which version they'll be facing.
Heretic
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Enlightened-One wrote: 14 May 2018, 06:44
KiwiRider wrote: 14 May 2018, 06:20
Enlightened-One wrote: 14 May 2018, 05:08
Whyte-Chisora II (as long as Dereck is prepared and motivated for the bout)
That would have been great a few months after the first one. It was inconclusive- to me anyway.
Now, I don't think Del Boy has what he had back then. Also look at where they are now, Whyte sizing up AJ/Wilder/Povitkin and Del Boy being mentioned against Joyce..
I can't disagree with you. All I know is that Chisora is incredibly inconsistent, which kind of makes him dangerous, because his opponents' are never sure which version they'll be facing.
I don't know where all this talk about Chisora being inconsistent is coming from?

The way I see it is he is always fighting the same way. When hes style works like it did against Whyte he is going to look good. When it is not working like against Vitali for example he looks bad. He is just very one dimensional fighter.
KiwiRider
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Enlightened-One wrote: 14 May 2018, 06:44 I can't disagree with you. All I know is that Chisora is incredibly inconsistent, which kind of makes him dangerous, because his opponents' are never sure which version they'll be facing.
Thank goodness you don't want to disagree with me. That's an argument I'm sure to lose :lol:
jamamb
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Lackeos wrote: 12 May 2018, 23:54 Usually I'd prefer that the fighters fight other dudes rather than each other again, because we already have a good idea of their relative caliber, and I think we learn a lot more about them and other fighters if they fight other opponents instead of each other. If Parker and Hughie Fury fight to a draw twice, then I really know that they're equally matched. I don't know if they're both good, both bad, or both medium; but I know they're both the same. If Parker and Hughie draw one time, and then Parker beats Whyte and Hughie beats Hammer, then I know Parker and Hughie are both great. If Parker and Hughie draw one time, and then Parker loses to Martin and Hughie loses to Kownacki, then I know Parker and Hughie are both crap. If Parker and Hughie draw one time, and then Whyte beats Parker and Hughie beats Kownacki, then I know that Whyte > Parker = Hughie > Kownacki. Point is there is a lot more to be learned by fighters facing other opponents rather than rematching each other.

I think rematches are most often warranted between the top fighters of the division, in divisions where there is a big gulf between the top 2 fighters and everybody else. Also, if a fighter has substantially cleaned-out a particular division, I think I'd rather see him rematch the #2 fighter rather than fight the #17 guy. For example, Wlad had a pretty competitive fight with Haye (although most people weren't as entertained by it as I was); and then he fought Mormeck, Thompson, Wach, and Pianeta. So was it really that important for Wlad to fight Pianeta? Or could we have gotten better value from a Wlad - Haye rematch? I think Wlad's legacy would have better benefited from 2 wins over Haye, rather than 1 each of Haye and Pianeta. A lot of heavyweights tried to get a title shot at Wlad by attrition, i.e. by doing nothing and waiting for everyone in front of them in line to lose their title shots. Same with welterweights cautiously waiting on a shot at Mayweather and Pacquiao. If Wlad was rematching all of his best opponents, it might have sent a message to everyone else that they will have to earn their shot, and can't rely on waiting for attrition to catch up.

But anyways, I'd be pretty pleased to see a Wangek - Estrada rematch. Their first fight was amazing.
wlad-haye was awful and lopsided with haye winning 3 rounds at best, f@ck no a rematch shouldnt have happened , and no it would not added any value to wlads legacy
Ilya Muromets
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Wilder - Ortiz with honest ring officials

Kovalev - Ward - likewise -preferably in Russia this time - but certainly not in Mafia Vegas or New York City either

Joshua - Wlad 2... or Joshua - Vitali! But I guess that's not to be as "time nor tide wait for no man".
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oogiebe
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Ali v. Foreman II
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