Sulaiman confirms Canelo removed from WBC’s rankings for failing to sign up for drug testing

[tiny_acres]

its is spelled 'rebuttals', not rebuttles.

damn

[boxing_rocks]

EO you are an intelligent person. Can you not agree that just the look of this looks fishy?

Intelligent or not,

uh, blatantly 'not'. committing a series of category errors, an inability to separate a fact from its context, an inability to assess any argument that has been advanced in even slight contrast to his own with any objectivity, I could probably name another 6 or 7 indicators of 'intelligence' as commonly understood, that EO signally lacks.

EO has psychiatric ward type of intelligence. He is just intellectually different and needs his own forum.

[bmilligan]

Just put an asterisk next to removed.

*until we are able to make another big money fight and create a bizarre exception for Canelo for September 17th.

[boxing_rocks]

Just put an asterisk next to removed.

*until we are able to make another big money fight and create a bizarre exception for Canelo for September 17th.

Yep, they are pretending to follow rules, but will put the cheater back in their rankings if/when GGG fight is made. Canelo got a few months to freely juice.

[Thomastearns]

'King Canelo' Alvarez is unable to respond to Dan Rafael as he has limited grasp on the everyday world sitting in his cloistered tower eating specially prepared Mexican meat dishes.

Meanwhile outside, the baying mob grow increasingly restless. Carrying smartphones they threaten to surround the king's tower as they chant, 'cheat, cheat, cheat, cheat'.

The kings court jester Mauricio Sulaimán decides to enrol on an advanced contortionism course because all the demands of boxing politics ($$$$$$$$$$$) are threatening to bend him right out of shape.

The messenger Dan Rafael now starts to worry where his next meal might be coming from. He wanted to play the hero as much as the next man but his mind now keeps whispering, 'How about the old hacked Twitter account excuse?'

Many many miles away the kings rival GGG starts to wonder whether the pot of gold he has been chasing all this time is real.

Who said there were no new ways to promote a fight? Dylan should write a ballad.

[apollo creed]

EO you are an intelligent person. Can you not agree that just the look of this looks fishy?

Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.

Canelo could be videoed with a needle hanging out of his arse & Fergus/Rover would respond with "He has a prescription for antihistamines & it's a well-known fact that redheads suffer more from hayfever [insert meaningless tangential link apparently "justifying" same here]. I can't see why you'd suspect him of illegal drug use. He has said he's not guilty & on that basis I prefer to traffic in facts".

Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!

It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric.

Spot on !

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

- Such sublime delicacies like manna falling from the Heavens!

Ahhhh, the usual ninnygram IQs toothlessly tear into each other up with Rattus BALCO Vic VADA playing his SNAC flute as his dancing bear, the lardassed Son of El Presidente for Life Jose cleans up boxing! Could you lot just send me your weensy yoctogram bank account numbers in advance before you suckers are fleeced of everything you own?



BTW, Lance never tested positive for anything the TDF and TUE Travis Tygart and the FBI could prove, so criminal charges where dropped. Instead FBI threatened a dozen or so riders friendly with Lance will long sentences in the pen that got them to change their storylines enough file a $100 million civil suit against Lance. When the mighty US govt dedicates using such formidable resources for threats and impending bankruptcy, just about anyone will roll over. Truth was the Tour was dirty from it's first sponsor and winner all the way up to today just like boxing was and is today, and always shall be.

BTW, how many million$ of US resources were used to bludgeon Lance, all the time while using taxpayer dollars to bail out the Big Banks after their real estate fraud sent the entire world into a depression as tens of thousands of US homeowners lost everything lock, stock, and barrel? The loss was reported as $26 Trillion, and pray tell us how many yocto trillions is that?

Ya, right, asking boxers to be cleaner than your seedy selves and filthy govt and business leaders, an unholy lot unable to pass a VADA screening...unless...unless...BALCO Vic's little SNAC magic pills and powders...only in yoctogram cleaning up boxing!




Hamelin Town’s in Brunswick,
By famous Hanover city;
The river Weser, deep and wide,
Washes its wall on the southern side;
A pleasanter spot you never spied;
But, when begins my ditty,
Almost five hundred years ago,
To see the townsfolk suffer so
From vermin, was a pity.

Rats!
They fought the dogs and killed the cats,
And bit the babies in the cradles,
And ate the cheeses out of the vats,
And licked the soup from the cooks’ own ladle’s,
Split open the kegs of salted sprats,
Made nests inside men’s Sunday hats,
And even spoiled the women’s chats
By drowning their speaking
With shrieking and squeaking
In fifty different sharps and flats.

[apollo creed]

EO you are an intelligent person. Can you not agree that just the look of this looks fishy?

Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.

Canelo could be videoed with a needle hanging out of his arse & Fergus/Rover would respond with "He has a prescription for antihistamines & it's a well-known fact that redheads suffer more from hayfever [insert meaningless tangential link apparently "justifying" same here]. I can't see why you'd suspect him of illegal drug use. He has said he's not guilty & on that basis I prefer to traffic in facts".

Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!

It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric.

Spot on! Well said. This here needs to be pinned. As a public service announcement so people don’t repeat the same song and dance (I’m guilty too) because he/she/it/Fergus/rover/EO Loves the attention!

Ver true! He's hunting these threads like crazy with his irrefutable facts.

[apollo creed]

Clenginger would be bulked and fiiled up with that meat and a lot of meat rage. Golovkin may get some damages .

[Enlightened-One]

Canelo Alvarez is now enrolled in year-round, random testing conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

Anyone dares to say that he isn't?

[boxing_rocks]

Good for him and for the sport! I wish he did it last year,. Golovkin would've won by stoppage then.

[jamamb]

seems like ggg will be taking that L this fall then

[Mexi-Box]

Canelo Alvarez is now enrolled in year-round, random testing conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

Anyone dares to say that he isn't?

Source?

[jamamb]

canelo tweeted that he just signed the contract for it

[Like a Boss]

I am aware that Canelo has a very strained relationship with the WBC and has done so for several years. He won't allow them to dish out their orders.

The fact he won't dance to Sulaiman's tune is not unusual, if you have followed Canelo's career as closely as I have. And a big part of me understands the reason why he has a strained relationship with the WBC.

In terms of Canelo potentially being a drug cheat, I have had my suspicions for quite some time, but I can't condemn him and accuse him of intentionally consuming a banned substance, because the evidence is inconclusive.

The only reason why Canelo received a ban, is because the NSAC's rules don't care about the root cause of the positive drug test result.

However, the NSAC have already stated that they don't believe he intentionally consumed PED's, but they had to suspend him regardless, because of their rules.

I think I've partially given you the answer you were seeking, but perhaps I don't quite see things like you do, because I need compelling evidence before I condemn fighters.

I don't agree with the "there's no smoke without a fire" justice system, regardless of my suspicions.

The theory is: the reason why Canelo dropped the WBC belt couple years ago was BECAUSE he wanted to get off the CBP program. Note he wasn't fighting for the WBA title either. Only the WBO, which has no VADA testing at all.

When the WBC wanted him to fight Golovkin, he figured he has no chance with VADA. The "aging" and waiting Golovkin was a bonus. That also explains why he had such a dramatic physique change by the time he fought GGG.

I don't really “do” theories that aren't substantiated by any facts.

I have previously submitted several posts explaining the reason why Canelo has a strained relationship with the WBC that are factually-accurate.

The version of events I detailed was corroborated by all parties, which means my claims can't be refuted.

If you don't believe the explanation I've previously supplied, then perhaps you should research the matter for yourself? You also need to check the timelines for the events, because they make for interesting reading.

People somehow like to believe fictional and derogatory claims about unpopular or villainous fighters, even if there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support these creatively imagined conspiracy theories.

Ultimately though, you're going to inevitably believe whatever you want to, regardless as to whether it's true or not.

I am only interested in facts, and the facts are that Canelo twice tested positive and was then delisted by the WBC for refusing to join the drug program. Opinions vary on other aspects. But they are the facts.

[tiny_acres]

The theory is: the reason why Canelo dropped the WBC belt couple years ago was BECAUSE he wanted to get off the CBP program. Note he wasn't fighting for the WBA title either. Only the WBO, which has no VADA testing at all.

When the WBC wanted him to fight Golovkin, he figured he has no chance with VADA. The "aging" and waiting Golovkin was a bonus. That also explains why he had such a dramatic physique change by the time he fought GGG.

I don't really “do” theories that aren't substantiated by any facts.

I have previously submitted several posts explaining the reason why Canelo has a strained relationship with the WBC that are factually-accurate.

The version of events I detailed was corroborated by all parties, which means my claims can't be refuted.

If you don't believe the explanation I've previously supplied, then perhaps you should research the matter for yourself? You also need to check the timelines for the events, because they make for interesting reading.

People somehow like to believe fictional and derogatory claims about unpopular or villainous fighters, even if there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support these creatively imagined conspiracy theories.

Ultimately though, you're going to inevitably believe whatever you want to, regardless as to whether it's true or not.

I am only interested in facts, and the facts are that Canelo twice tested positive and was then delisted by the WBC for refusing to join the drug program. Opinions vary on other aspects. But they are the facts.

You nailed it!!! 100% factual

[Enlightened-One]

I don't really “do” theories that aren't substantiated by any facts.

I have previously submitted several posts explaining the reason why Canelo has a strained relationship with the WBC that are factually-accurate.

The version of events I detailed was corroborated by all parties, which means my claims can't be refuted.

If you don't believe the explanation I've previously supplied, then perhaps you should research the matter for yourself? You also need to check the timelines for the events, because they make for interesting reading.

People somehow like to believe fictional and derogatory claims about unpopular or villainous fighters, even if there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support these creatively imagined conspiracy theories.

Ultimately though, you're going to inevitably believe whatever you want to, regardless as to whether it's true or not.

I am only interested in facts, and the facts are that Canelo twice tested positive and was then delisted by the WBC for refusing to join the drug program. Opinions vary on other aspects. But they are the facts.

You nailed it!!! 100% factual

Tiny, what I wrote in that quote was originally in response to someone's claim that was utter bôllôcks.

This person now flatly refuses to support his previous fictional claims. He has completely abandoned them.

You are more interested in supporting someone's counter argument against me than the facts. You aren't a real fan of the sport of boxing, since you're not interested in the truth.

This "Like a boss" fellow has achieved fûck all with what he wrote, since he has taken my words out of context. He won't be able to disprove anything I've written in this thread.

And only I have really "nailed it!!! 100% factual"

[Mexi-Box]

I am only interested in facts, and the facts are that Canelo twice tested positive and was then delisted by the WBC for refusing to join the drug program. Opinions vary on other aspects. But they are the facts.

You nailed it!!! 100% factual

Tiny, what I wrote in that quote was originally in response to someone's claim that was utter bôllôcks.

This person now flatly refuses to support his previous fictional claims. He has completely abandoned them.

You are more interested in supporting someone's counter argument against me than the facts. You aren't a real fan of the sport of boxing, since you're not interested in the truth.

This "Like a boss" fellow has achieved fûck all with what he wrote, since he has taken my words out of context. He won't be able to disprove anything I've written in this thread.

And only I have really "nailed it!!! 100% factual"

You're not interested in real facts. You are only interested in your own twisted facts, Unenlightened One.

[Enlightened-One]

You nailed it!!! 100% factual

Tiny, what I wrote in that quote was originally in response to someone's claim that was utter bôllôcks.

This person now flatly refuses to support his previous fictional claims. He has completely abandoned them.

You are more interested in supporting someone's counter argument against me than the facts. You aren't a real fan of the sport of boxing, since you're not interested in the truth.

This "Like a boss" fellow has achieved fûck all with what he wrote, since he has taken my words out of context. He won't be able to disprove anything I've written in this thread.

And only I have really "nailed it!!! 100% factual"

You're not interested in real facts. You are only interested in your own twisted facts, Unenlightened One.

People are entitled to their own opinions, they aren't entitled to their own facts.

The reason why people try to insult me, is because they can't undermine the evidence I supply.

When people dislike a fighter, they'll inevitably either embellish certain situations or fabricate blatant lies, but then they become deeply offended when someone undermines their bûllshît claims.

If people dislike me simply because I research my claims, then so be it.

[Boxerbeetle]

Tiny, what I wrote in that quote was originally in response to someone's claim that was utter bôllôcks.

This person now flatly refuses to support his previous fictional claims. He has completely abandoned them.

You are more interested in supporting someone's counter argument against me than the facts. You aren't a real fan of the sport of boxing, since you're not interested in the truth.

This "Like a boss" fellow has achieved fûck all with what he wrote, since he has taken my words out of context. He won't be able to disprove anything I've written in this thread.

And only I have really "nailed it!!! 100% factual"

You're not interested in real facts. You are only interested in your own twisted facts, Unenlightened One.

People are entitled to their own opinions, they aren't entitled to their own facts.

The reason why people try to insult me, is because they can't undermine the evidence I supply.

When people dislike a fighter, they'll inevitably either embellish certain situations or fabricate blatant lies, but then they become deeply offended when someone undermines their bûllshît claims.

If people dislike me simply because I research my claims, then so be it.

I think the posts on this thread give a fair summary of why people dislike you.

[Thomastearns]

- Such sublime delicacies like manna falling from the Heavens!

Ahhhh, the usual ninnygram IQs toothlessly tear into each other up with Rattus BALCO Vic VADA playing his SNAC flute as his dancing bear, the lardassed Son of El Presidente for Life Jose cleans up boxing! Could you lot just send me your weensy yoctogram bank account numbers in advance before you suckers are fleeced of everything you own?



BTW, Lance never tested positive for anything the TDF and TUE Travis Tygart and the FBI could prove, so criminal charges where dropped. Instead FBI threatened a dozen or so riders friendly with Lance will long sentences in the pen that got them to change their storylines enough file a $100 million civil suit against Lance. When the mighty US govt dedicates using such formidable resources for threats and impending bankruptcy, just about anyone will roll over. Truth was the Tour was dirty from it's first sponsor and winner all the way up to today just like boxing was and is today, and always shall be.

BTW, how many million$ of US resources were used to bludgeon Lance, all the time while using taxpayer dollars to bail out the Big Banks after their real estate fraud sent the entire world into a depression as tens of thousands of US homeowners lost everything lock, stock, and barrel? The loss was reported as $26 Trillion, and pray tell us how many yocto trillions is that?

Ya, right, asking boxers to be cleaner than your seedy selves and filthy govt and business leaders, an unholy lot unable to pass a VADA screening...unless...unless...BALCO Vic's little SNAC magic pills and powders...only in yoctogram cleaning up boxing!




Hamelin Town’s in Brunswick,
By famous Hanover city;
The river Weser, deep and wide,
Washes its wall on the southern side;
A pleasanter spot you never spied;
But, when begins my ditty,
Almost five hundred years ago,
To see the townsfolk suffer so
From vermin, was a pity.

Rats!
They fought the dogs and killed the cats,
And bit the babies in the cradles,
And ate the cheeses out of the vats,
And licked the soup from the cooks’ own ladle’s,
Split open the kegs of salted sprats,
Made nests inside men’s Sunday hats,
And even spoiled the women’s chats
By drowning their speaking
With shrieking and squeaking
In fifty different sharps and flats.

Ah yes! But the mask of fairness must never slip. Where would we all be without the mask?

The skin of civilization is always thin and easily punctured. Not to worry it can be 'repaired' endlessly, there are many tools and many hands at work. Ivan Illich wasn't half right.

Still it's nice to see king Canelo finally get a good slap from the powers behind the throne.
Naughty boy! Don't do it again. Or else.