Classic fights I've watched recently

[handsofstone]

Floyd Patterson vs Archie Moore(highlights)


Patterson KOs LHW champ Moore in 5 to win the vacant HW title, gutted the whole fight isn't available on youtube I assumed it would be as its a big fight, hard to gauge how the fight was playing out after 7 mins of film but Patterson looked good, quicker, sharper and busier than Moore, letting go fast flurries to head and some nice work downstairs too


In the 5th Patterson caught Moore with a lunging left hook that put Moore down and you could tell he was hurt pretty bad, he got up but as soon as Patterson laid into him he went down for the count almost instantly, clearly still shook up from the 1st KD

[SenorPipino]

I wonder if Patterson could have been an ATG light heavyweight if he pursued that path.

For most of his career he fought in the 180s. 182 for the Moore bout.

[oogiebe]

I wonder if Patterson could have been an ATG light heavyweight if he pursued that path.

For most of his career he fought in the 180s. 182 for the Moore bout.

Tell you what, if the cruiserweight division existed, he'd be top 5 all time. You are so very right!

[SenorPipino]

I wonder if Patterson could have been an ATG light heavyweight if he pursued that path.

For most of his career he fought in the 180s. 182 for the Moore bout.

Tell you what, if the cruiserweight division existed, he'd be top 5 all time. You are so very right!

And Patterson tipped the scales at 200 lbs. just once in his career.

Even cruiserweight is a stretch.

[handsofstone]

Floyd Patterson vs Pete Rademacher


Patterson KOs Olympic Gold medallist and pro debutant Rademacher in the 6th round of another one of the bizarre fights of Patterson's career with multiple KDs on both sides, Rademacher put Patterson down in the 2nd with a clubbing right hand then Patterson put Rademacher down at the end of the 3rd with a solid right hand, things quietened down in the 4th but in the 5th Patterson put Rademacher again with another right and then again and then for a 3rd time with the same shot and then again for a 4th time, torrid round for Rademacher but he bravely made it to the end and come out for the 6th and unsurprisingly Patterson decked him with another right, finally the last right hand landed put Rademacher out of his misery

Patterson down once and Rademacher down 7 times, all 8 knockdowns were from right hands, I usually think of left hooks when I think of Floyd Patterson

[handsofstone]

Floyd Patterson vs Brian London


Patterson KOs London in the 11th to retain his title, one sided fight and one of the best cases of body punching ive seen in a HW contest from Patterson, it was clear from the start that was gonna be the strategy to break down London, his ribs must've been battered and bruised by the end, they took a vicious beating, Patterson was too quick and sharp for London, whenever he would explode into fast flurries London couldn't get out of the way of them, London must've felt the power straight away because he was cautious with everything he threw, pawing with the jab and half hearted right hands, he never ran though so credit where credits due

Patterson finally put London down in the 10th, rocked him with a big right hand then London went down as Patterson steamed in, the bell saving him, early in the 11th though Patterson finally put London down for the count and it was the bodyshots which wilted him, they were vicious

[handsofstone]

Floyd Patterson vs Tom McNeeley


Patterson puts McNeeley down offically 8 times en route to a 4th round KO, doubled up the left hook in the 1st to put McNeeley down and then had him down again straight away but the ref(Jersey Joe Walcott) wrongly ruled it a slip, McNeeley was down 4 times in the 3rd although it should've been 5 as the ref totally ignored a KD as Patterson nailed him with a clean right hand, McNeeley got up fighting so the ref just allowed it to continue, McNeeley was first down in the round from a leaping Patterson left hook then down again from a 1/2, another left had him down and then a right hand

Finally Patterson got McNeeley out of there in the 4th, had him down another 3 times with fast combinations, McNeeley did seem to rock Patterson with a right hand but Patterson came back firing put McNeeley down 3 times and that was that,


Brave effort from McNeeley he wouldn't stay down, he was down more times than Rademacher, he just couldn't handle the power and speed of Patterson and he was down from both hands, his son Peter would go on to be Tyson's first opponent after getting out the jail

[PredatorHayds]

Floyd Patterson vs Tom McNeeley


Patterson puts McNeeley down offically 8 times en route to a 4th round KO, doubled up the left hook in the 1st to put McNeeley down and then had him down again straight away but the ref(Jersey Joe Walcott) wrongly ruled it a slip, McNeeley was down 4 times in the 3rd although it should've been 5 as the ref totally ignored a KD as Patterson nailed him with a clean right hand, McNeeley got up fighting so the ref just allowed it to continue, McNeeley was first down in the round from a leaping Patterson left hook then down again from a 1/2, another left had him down and then a right hand

Finally Patterson got McNeeley out of there in the 4th, had him down another 3 times with fast combinations, McNeeley did seem to rock Patterson with a right hand but Patterson came back firing put McNeeley down 3 times and that was that,


Brave effort from McNeeley he wouldn't stay down, he was down more times than Rademacher, he just couldn't handle the power and speed of Patterson and he was down from both hands, his son Peter would go on to be Tyson's first opponent after getting out the jail

I watched this aswell this week.

Liked McNeeley at the end saying Floyd is the classiest fighter he’s come across inside and outside the ropes.

He then says if anyone ever has a problem with Floyd they need to see him.

Walcott awful ref in this fight as you pointed out.

[Seathyboi]

I remember one day I watched:

Ali vs Frazier 3
Pacquiao vs Morales 1+ 2
Dempsey vs Tunney 2
Holyfield vs Bowe 1,2+3
Leonard vs Hearns 1+2
Leonard vs Hagler
Leonard vs Duran 2
Holmes vs Norton
Ward vs Gatti 1,2+3
Morales vs Maidana 1,2+3

Long but fun day

[DrDuke]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 1

The fight started with Monzon controlling it confidently. Carlos was keeping distance and jabbing for the first half of the bout just like he could do it. Valdez had some moments, but they weren't big, his pressuring was bringing almost nothing for him. In the 8th, however, Rodrigo connected a solid right hand, Carlos was visibly hurt, but managed to survive, thanks to his granite chin. Even after that Monzon was looking good, he clinched a bit, he didn't lose the control. The fight appeared to be more viscous though, both of the fighters was showing signs of gassing out in its final rounds. The 14th brought the highlight of this battle. Rodrigo was still coming forward, Carlos was moving backwards, then he threw a jab, Valdez dodged it and tried to throw right hand, but Monzon landed his own right hand, down went Valdez. The knockdown looked pretty hard, but Rodrigo recovered well. In the 15th Valdez tried to score a knockout desperately, he knew he was blowing it, but he failed to do something dramatic, the last round was viscous overall. King Carlos successfully defended all his belts again and brought the WBC one back.

[oogiebe]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 1

The fight started with Monzon controlling it confidently. Carlos was keeping distance and jabbing for the first half of the bout just like he could do it. Valdez had some moments, but they weren't big, his pressuring was bringing almost nothing for him. In the 8th, however, Rodrigo connected a solid right hand, Carlos was visibly hurt, but managed to survive, thanks to his granite chin. Even after that Monzon was looking good, he clinched a bit, he didn't lose the control. The fight appeared to be more viscous though, both of the fighters was showing signs of gassing out in its final rounds. The 14th brought the highlight of this battle. Rodrigo was still coming forward, Carlos was moving backwards, then he threw a jab, Valdez dodged it and tried to throw right hand, but Monzon landed his own right hand, down went Valdez. The knockdown looked pretty hard, but Rodrigo recovered well. In the 15th Valdez tried to score a knockout desperately, he knew he was blowing it, but he failed to do something dramatic, the last round was viscous overall. King Carlos successfully defended all his belts again and brought the WBC one back.

Nice fight!!!!! Watch II next! Perhaps more exciting.

[DrDuke]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 1

The fight started with Monzon controlling it confidently. Carlos was keeping distance and jabbing for the first half of the bout just like he could do it. Valdez had some moments, but they weren't big, his pressuring was bringing almost nothing for him. In the 8th, however, Rodrigo connected a solid right hand, Carlos was visibly hurt, but managed to survive, thanks to his granite chin. Even after that Monzon was looking good, he clinched a bit, he didn't lose the control. The fight appeared to be more viscous though, both of the fighters was showing signs of gassing out in its final rounds. The 14th brought the highlight of this battle. Rodrigo was still coming forward, Carlos was moving backwards, then he threw a jab, Valdez dodged it and tried to throw right hand, but Monzon landed his own right hand, down went Valdez. The knockdown looked pretty hard, but Rodrigo recovered well. In the 15th Valdez tried to score a knockout desperately, he knew he was blowing it, but he failed to do something dramatic, the last round was viscous overall. King Carlos successfully defended all his belts again and brought the WBC one back.

Nice fight!!!!! Watch II next! Perhaps more exciting.

Yeah, I planned to do that.

[handsofstone]

Floyd Patterson vs Tom McNeeley


Patterson puts McNeeley down offically 8 times en route to a 4th round KO, doubled up the left hook in the 1st to put McNeeley down and then had him down again straight away but the ref(Jersey Joe Walcott) wrongly ruled it a slip, McNeeley was down 4 times in the 3rd although it should've been 5 as the ref totally ignored a KD as Patterson nailed him with a clean right hand, McNeeley got up fighting so the ref just allowed it to continue, McNeeley was first down in the round from a leaping Patterson left hook then down again from a 1/2, another left had him down and then a right hand

Finally Patterson got McNeeley out of there in the 4th, had him down another 3 times with fast combinations, McNeeley did seem to rock Patterson with a right hand but Patterson came back firing put McNeeley down 3 times and that was that,


Brave effort from McNeeley he wouldn't stay down, he was down more times than Rademacher, he just couldn't handle the power and speed of Patterson and he was down from both hands, his son Peter would go on to be Tyson's first opponent after getting out the jail

I watched this aswell this week.

Liked McNeeley at the end saying Floyd is the classiest fighter he’s come across inside and outside the ropes.

He then says if anyone ever has a problem with Floyd they need to see him.

Walcott awful ref in this fight as you pointed out.

Classy from McNeeley, never seen that, Patterson has always came across as a tough honest pro and nice guy

[handsofstone]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 1

The fight started with Monzon controlling it confidently. Carlos was keeping distance and jabbing for the first half of the bout just like he could do it. Valdez had some moments, but they weren't big, his pressuring was bringing almost nothing for him. In the 8th, however, Rodrigo connected a solid right hand, Carlos was visibly hurt, but managed to survive, thanks to his granite chin. Even after that Monzon was looking good, he clinched a bit, he didn't lose the control. The fight appeared to be more viscous though, both of the fighters was showing signs of gassing out in its final rounds. The 14th brought the highlight of this battle. Rodrigo was still coming forward, Carlos was moving backwards, then he threw a jab, Valdez dodged it and tried to throw right hand, but Monzon landed his own right hand, down went Valdez. The knockdown looked pretty hard, but Rodrigo recovered well. In the 15th Valdez tried to score a knockout desperately, he knew he was blowing it, but he failed to do something dramatic, the last round was viscous overall. King Carlos successfully defended all his belts again and brought the WBC one back.

I like both fights, 30 rounds of top competitive boxing, Valdes is like a mini Frazier, bobbing and weaving bringing up the left hook but Monzon is just so textbook it was hard for Valdes to get under his jab for the most part, great knockdown in the 14th for Monzon

[Caractacus]

[handsofstone]

Another cracking HW fight from the golden era, fought mostly on the inside, great infighting, both guys showed some nice bodywork as well,

[DrDuke]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 2

The rematch started like the first fight, Valdez was pushing the pace, Monzon was taking the control with jabbing and moving. In the 2nd round Valdez connected some solid right hands. Then the fighters were exchanging one-two combinations, Valdez landed a hard right hand dropping Monzon. Iron-chinned Carlos got up quickly without looking hurt, he re-established the control. In the rest of the fight Rodrigo had some moments, but it was Monzon's fight in general. Carlos was moving brilliantly, he was keeping Valdez on the safe distance with his jab, he was providing variable combinations. The 9th and the 10th were the worst for Valdez, he was wobbled there. In the last rounds Rodrigo showed a bit of desperation, but he had not much left in the gas tank to try really hard. Carlos successfully defended his titles again and after that fight Monzon retired as an Reigning Undisputed Middleweight Champion of the World with the great record of 100 fights, 87 victories, 3 defeats, 9 draws, 1 no contest, 59 victories by a knockout.

[oogiebe]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 2

The rematch started like the first fight, Valdez was pushing the pace, Monzon was taking the control with jabbing and moving. In the 2nd round Valdez connected some solid right hands. Then the fighters were exchanging one-two combinations, Valdez landed a hard right hand dropping Monzon. Iron-chinned Carlos got up quickly without looking hurt, he re-established the control. In the rest of the fight Rodrigo had some moments, but it was Monzon's fight in general. Carlos was moving brilliantly, he was keeping Valdez on the safe distance with his jab, he was providing variable combinations. The 9th and the 10th were the worst for Valdez, he was wobbled there. In the last rounds Rodrigo showed a bit of desperation, but he had not much left in the gas tank to try really hard. Carlos successfully defended his titles again and after that fight Monzon retired as an Reigning Undisputed Middleweight Champion of the World with the great record of 100 fights, 87 victories, 3 defeats, 9 draws, 1 no contest, 59 victories by a knockout.

All time greatest middleweight!!!

[DrDuke]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 2

The rematch started like the first fight, Valdez was pushing the pace, Monzon was taking the control with jabbing and moving. In the 2nd round Valdez connected some solid right hands. Then the fighters were exchanging one-two combinations, Valdez landed a hard right hand dropping Monzon. Iron-chinned Carlos got up quickly without looking hurt, he re-established the control. In the rest of the fight Rodrigo had some moments, but it was Monzon's fight in general. Carlos was moving brilliantly, he was keeping Valdez on the safe distance with his jab, he was providing variable combinations. The 9th and the 10th were the worst for Valdez, he was wobbled there. In the last rounds Rodrigo showed a bit of desperation, but he had not much left in the gas tank to try really hard. Carlos successfully defended his titles again and after that fight Monzon retired as an Reigning Undisputed Middleweight Champion of the World with the great record of 100 fights, 87 victories, 3 defeats, 9 draws, 1 no contest, 59 victories by a knockout.

All time greatest middleweight!!!

Absolutely.

[oogiebe]

Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez 2

The rematch started like the first fight, Valdez was pushing the pace, Monzon was taking the control with jabbing and moving. In the 2nd round Valdez connected some solid right hands. Then the fighters were exchanging one-two combinations, Valdez landed a hard right hand dropping Monzon. Iron-chinned Carlos got up quickly without looking hurt, he re-established the control. In the rest of the fight Rodrigo had some moments, but it was Monzon's fight in general. Carlos was moving brilliantly, he was keeping Valdez on the safe distance with his jab, he was providing variable combinations. The 9th and the 10th were the worst for Valdez, he was wobbled there. In the last rounds Rodrigo showed a bit of desperation, but he had not much left in the gas tank to try really hard. Carlos successfully defended his titles again and after that fight Monzon retired as an Reigning Undisputed Middleweight Champion of the World with the great record of 100 fights, 87 victories, 3 defeats, 9 draws, 1 no contest, 59 victories by a knockout.

All time greatest middleweight!!!

Absolutely.

[Tony1244]

Watched Duran-Leonard 1 last night.

Man did SR fight Roberto's fight !

Reminded me of Frazier-Ali 1 in many ways.

[SenorPipino]

Watched Duran-Leonard 1 last night.

Man did SR fight Roberto's fight !

Reminded me of Frazier-Ali 1 in many ways.

Duran won the fight but it might have been Leonard's finest hour.

He unburdened himself of that unfair reputation of being a made for television pretty boy who would wilt under adversity.

He unwisely stood toe to toe with the fight game's toughest, nastiest SOB, but proved there was immense substance behind the facade.

[Tony1244]

Watched Duran-Leonard 1 last night.

Man did SR fight Roberto's fight !

Reminded me of Frazier-Ali 1 in many ways.

Duran won the fight but it might have been Leonard's finest hour.

He unburdened himself of that unfair reputation of being a made for television pretty boy who would wilt under adversity.

He unwisely stood toe to toe with the fight game's toughest, nastiest SOB, but proved there was immense substance behind the facade.

Very well said.

[Abradolf Lincler]

People act like Leonard chose to get smacked with a left hook in the center of the ring in round 2, and then just opted to fight with his back to the ropes. He went to the ropes because he was hurt. He got hurt again after a right hand in the 4th round again and driven back toward the ropes. Duran made it into that type of fight. Leonard didn't "choose" a damn thing.

He was a boxer-puncher who controlled the center of the ring up to (and after) that fight. He beat people up and knocked them out. He didn't dance around the ring and throw intermittent pot-shots. The way he fought in the rematch was uncharacteristic, not the way he fought in the first fight. He just got beaten by the better man that night, despite being younger, larger, quicker, and more powerful. Duran was just better.

[DrDuke]

People act like Leonard chose to get smacked with a left hook in the center of the ring in round 2, and then just opted to fight with his back to the ropes. He went to the ropes because he was hurt. He got hurt again after a right hand in the 4th round again and driven back toward the ropes. Duran made it into that type of fight. Leonard didn't "choose" a damn thing.

He was a boxer-puncher who controlled the center of the ring up to (and after) that fight. He beat people up and knocked them out. He didn't dance around the ring and throw intermittent pot-shots. The way he fought in the rematch was uncharacteristic, not the way he fought in the first fight. He just got beaten by the better man that night, despite being younger, larger, quicker, and more powerful. Duran was just better.

I agree.