Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

Nile4000
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Re: Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

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I would give Jaimie Garza a strong shot against Wilfredo Gomez.

Marlon Starling could beat Roberto Duran, if his head was on straight for the fight.
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Re: Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

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Nile4000 wrote: 15 May 2018, 09:24 I would give Jaimie Garza a strong shot against Wilfredo Gomez.

Marlon Starling could beat Roberto Duran, if his head was on straight for the fight.
Interesting question! Big IF on your pick above IMHO. I believe that Bonecrusher Smith could take Smokin' Joe Frazier.
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Re: Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

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Kalan wrote: 15 May 2018, 01:45
gilgamesh wrote: 13 May 2018, 23:55 I thought of a great example.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. while he was never naturally a 154 pounder he did win 3 fights at the weight class, and I'm sure would be favored over quite a few names at that weight class.

One guy that I'm all, but certain could've defeated him though he's not anywhere near his league overall is James Kirkland.

The size, and the style that Kirkland would be bringing to the table would be all wrong for Floyd.
NO... Because you could see and slip every punch that Kirkland threw... Kirkland was super easy work for Canelo Alvarez, who Floyd Mayweather beat handily... Kirkland was even easier work for Nobuhiro Ishida, who Gennady Golovkin put into Intensive Care with 1 short but savage right hand... Hell would freeze over the day Kirkland beat Floyd.

But I think we know who would have beaten Mayweather.... From all reports Errol Spence knocked the living shitt out of Floyd in sparring.... Floyd held his left hand low (like Leonard did)... Floyd tried to do the shoulder roll under Spence's right hooks and it didn't work for a second... Spence is a lot taller and stronger and just chopped down on Floyd.

Spence slugged Floyd with short ripping right hooks which he drove right down on his temple and ear as Floyd tried to roll the hooks... At the same time Spence ripped Floyd with straight lefts, left hooks, left 45's, and left uppercuts... Floyd tried his best to grab Errol... Spence is too strong for grabbers... He has great techniques for guys who hold and wrestle.....even better than Lomachenko... Spence rips one arm loose and smashes you with that hand.

I HATE referee's who yell "Stop punching... Break" when you have one hand free and you're slaughtering the guy with it... They yell. "NO NO NO NO NO... STOP PUNCHING when I tell you." .... DON'T TELL me... It's a FIGHT ya dumb fk!!! You're not supposed to molest the boxers if they have 1 hand free to punch... You're supposed to let them fight out of the clinches... I swear, Mayweather had more referees in his pocket then any other boxer in the History of the game.
Styles make fights Kalan 'ol boy.
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Re: Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

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oogiebe wrote: 15 May 2018, 10:00
Nile4000 wrote: 15 May 2018, 09:24 I would give Jaimie Garza a strong shot against Wilfredo Gomez.

Marlon Starling could beat Roberto Duran, if his head was on straight for the fight.
Interesting question! Big IF on your pick above IMHO. I believe that Bonecrusher Smith could take Smokin' Joe Frazier.
To be truthfully honest, could see that, especially if it was post-Thrilla in Manilla Joe. Could see Bonecrusher also beating Buster Douglas, Leon Spinks, and possibly Michael Dokes and Gerrie Coetzee. And Berbick too.
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Re: Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

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I'd have given Jose Luis Lopez a good shot against Trinidad. Both big time punchers, but Lopez had the iron chin to boot. He could be hurt by inactivity in a lot of fights, but I think he matches up favorably against Tito, who'd have been within punching range for the majority of the fight.
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Re: Lesser fighters that you think could have beaten the greats?

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I rarely hear him mentioned, so I suppose he is considered a lesser fighter, but I genuinely believe a prime Freddie Norwood would fare well against any 126 or 130 pound fighter in history.
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