Worst Decisions

Migz · Post by **Migz** » 26 Apr 2006, 07:53

the two worst decisions i can think of at the moment are whitaker vs chavez and lewis vs holyfield 1 (the remach were lewis won was actually closer than this fight)

Any more?

Funny both mine are draws

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 26 Apr 2006, 09:29

Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 26 Apr 2006, 09:57

Fenech - Nelson 1 terrible.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 26 Apr 2006, 11:09

Slugger O'Toole (Fidel Castro Smith) -v- Henry Wharton.

john2345 · Post by **john2345** » 26 Apr 2006, 12:16

Syntax Error wrote:Slugger O'Toole (Fidel Castro Smith) -v- Henry Wharton.

That was without question the worst decision I have ever seen.

I was watching some old fights on DVD last weekend and the Morales-Barrera I and Holmes-Witherspoon ones didn't look too smart either!

J

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 26 Apr 2006, 12:19

john2345 wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:Slugger O'Toole (Fidel Castro Smith) -v- Henry Wharton.
That was without question the worst decision I have ever seen.

I was watching some old fights on DVD last weekend and the Morales-Barrera I and Holmes-Witherspoon ones didn't look too smart either!

J

Wharton was embarrassed to get the decision & quite rightly.

It was truly shocking.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 26 Apr 2006, 13:13

Coetzee vs Snipes - An absolutle disgrace of a decision.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 26 Apr 2006, 13:16

RazorKO wrote:Coetzee vs Snipes - An absolutle disgrace of a decision.

I agree.

Borinken25 · Post by **Borinken25** » 26 Apr 2006, 13:32

Oquendo v Bird Oquendo won
Sturm v DLH Sturm won
DLH v Mosley II DLH won

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 26 Apr 2006, 13:38

What about Tyson -v- Ruddock 2?

Tyson won it for sure, but when you consider all the points he had docked, he should not have won it by such a large margin IMO, as neither fighter was particularly impressive & just stood in front of each other throwing single shots.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 26 Apr 2006, 13:43

Syntax Error wrote:What about Tyson -v- Ruddock 2?

Tyson won it for sure, but when you consider all the points he had docked, he should not have won it by such a large margin IMO, as neither fighter was particularly impressive & just stood in front of each other throwing single shots.

Even though I am a massive fan of Ruddock, I thought the decision was fair. Tyson did lose a couple of points but Ruddock was also as dirty by hitting after the bell etc.

Without the point deductions Tyson won this fight easily, but with them than Tyson won this fight very comfortably. But Ruddock showed even though his jaw was broke in the 2nd round, he was here to stay.

rufus payne · Post by **rufus payne** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:25

Augustus vs Burton

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:30

Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12

Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:34

Kid Gavilan - Billy Graham 1951. The ref needed a police escort out of the arena.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:37

Mattyp151 wrote:Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.

No.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:41

Alfredo Escalera - Tyrone Everret.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 26 Apr 2006, 14:54

pundit wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.
No.

Brilliant....you showed me....

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 26 Apr 2006, 15:03

Mattyp151 wrote:
pundit wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.
No.
Brilliant....you showed me....

Nothing to show here. DLH-Trinidad was a narrow fight, with most observers giving it by one or (at most) two rounds to one fighter or the other. You may feel DLH won, others don't.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic, or the other fights that are listed here.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 26 Apr 2006, 15:08

pundit wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:
pundit wrote: No.
Brilliant....you showed me....
Nothing to show here. DLH-Trinidad was a narrow fight, with most observers giving it by one or (at most) two rounds to one fighter or the other. You may feel DLH won, others don't.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic, or the other fights that are listed here.

It's fights you think were bad decisions....I think this was a bad decision. It's an opinion based topic, I don't understand how I could be wrong.

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 26 Apr 2006, 15:23

Mattyp151 wrote:It's fights you think were bad decisions....I think this was a bad decision. It's an opinion based topic, I don't understand how I could be wrong.

Wel, if you turn every (or every other) close fight into a "bad decision", you seem to take a bad decision....

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 26 Apr 2006, 15:26

pundit wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:It's fights you think were bad decisions....I think this was a bad decision. It's an opinion based topic, I don't understand how I could be wrong.
Wel, if you turn every (or every other) close fight into a "bad decision", you seem to take a bad decision....

I don't turn every close decision into a bad one, so your point is moot. This PARTICULAR close decision I felt was a pretty bad decision.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 26 Apr 2006, 15:32

pundit wrote:Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12

Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Some of these are simply controversial when you have substantial minority (as in the case of Ali Norton) professing it should have gone the other way. The ones that are more interesting is when you have an actual majority of viewers thinking it was wrong. Foreman Shulz is probably the only one in that catagory.... oops I would say Holyfield Lewis fits that as well, Id say that was a jaw dropper too.

And these other fights were at least close.....are there more blatant examples?

Briggs Foreman seemed to be pretty evenly split in terms of popular opinion as well.

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 26 Apr 2006, 15:33

rufus payne wrote:Augustus vs Burton

Damnit! you beat me to this one. I couldn't believe how bad Augustus got raped in this fight. Whatever happened when they reviewed the decision?

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 26 Apr 2006, 16:00

BoxBuzz wrote:
pundit wrote:Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12

Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Some of these are simply controversial when you have substantial minority (as in the case of Ali Norton) professing it should have gone the other way. The ones that are more interesting is when you have an actual majority of viewers thinking it was wrong. Foreman Shulz is probably the only one in that catagory.... oops I would say Holyfield Lewis fits that as well, Id say that was a jaw dropper too.

And these other fights were at least close.....are there more blatant examples?

Briggs Foreman seemed to be pretty evenly split in terms of popular opinion as well.

Well, in the case of Sharkey vs. Schmeling 23 out of 25 sports writers at the ring had Schmeling winning. It was similar albeit less extreme with Louis vs. Walcott. As for Ali vs. Norton III Ali himself admitted afterwards that he had lost.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 26 Apr 2006, 16:49

pundit wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:
pundit wrote:Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12

Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Some of these are simply controversial when you have substantial minority (as in the case of Ali Norton) professing it should have gone the other way. The ones that are more interesting is when you have an actual majority of viewers thinking it was wrong. Foreman Shulz is probably the only one in that catagory.... oops I would say Holyfield Lewis fits that as well, Id say that was a jaw dropper too.

And these other fights were at least close.....are there more blatant examples?

Briggs Foreman seemed to be pretty evenly split in terms of popular opinion as well.
Well, in the case of Sharkey vs. Schmeling 23 out of 25 sports writers at the ring had Schmeling winning. It was similar albeit less extreme with Louis vs. Walcott. As for Ali vs. Norton III Ali himself admitted afterwards that he had lost.

Yep the Schmeling affair is probably a good example sorry about that, but I don't agree on Norton Ali anyway you slice that fight it was close. I happened to be in the majority that thinks Ali won.

Ali was humble whenever he fought a close fight, because he always expected to win big. So to him it was a loss.