AJ v Wilder set for America?

[ewenhay]

What amazes me is that people are more concerned about if the fight makes money than the possibility of the 2 best heavyweights on the planet squaring off.
Hearn is obviously happy with the 50 million.
Joshua is happy with the 50 million.
Negotiations are taking place so obviously proof of the 50 million have been made.
So why the hell does anyone care if Haymon, Hearn or the Vegas backers lose their shirt?

Just get excited about the fight coming to fruition

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

[tiny_acres]

What amazes me is that people are more concerned about if the fight makes money than the possibility of the 2 best heavyweights on the planet squaring off.
Hearn is obviously happy with the 50 million.
Joshua is happy with the 50 million.
Negotiations are taking place so obviously proof of the 50 million have been made.
So why the hell does anyone care if Haymon, Hearn or the Vegas backers lose their shirt?

Just get excited about the fight coming to fruition

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

[leejonesjnr]

What amazes me is that people are more concerned about if the fight makes money than the possibility of the 2 best heavyweights on the planet squaring off.
Hearn is obviously happy with the 50 million.
Joshua is happy with the 50 million.
Negotiations are taking place so obviously proof of the 50 million have been made.
So why the hell does anyone care if Haymon, Hearn or the Vegas backers lose their shirt?

Just get excited about the fight coming to fruition

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I’ve always found it curious that Americans say ‘I could care less’ when they mean ‘I couldn’t care less’.

[tiny_acres]

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I’ve always found it curious that Americans say ‘I could care less’ when they mean ‘I couldn’t care less’.

man if you want to find some curious language. Read my posts I'm an old Texan.
I sometimes even make up words if they appear to fit

[Like a Boss]

What amazes me is that people are more concerned about if the fight makes money than the possibility of the 2 best heavyweights on the planet squaring off.
Hearn is obviously happy with the 50 million.
Joshua is happy with the 50 million.
Negotiations are taking place so obviously proof of the 50 million have been made.
So why the hell does anyone care if Haymon, Hearn or the Vegas backers lose their shirt?

Just get excited about the fight coming to fruition

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

[tiny_acres]

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

you are right promoters think they are the stars.
And I love the Angelo quote

[oogiebe]

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

Angelo was a gem!

[Taansend]

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I’ve always found it curious that Americans say ‘I could care less’ when they mean ‘I couldn’t care less’.

I have a lot of fun with that one.

"How much less could you care?"

"Huh"

[Like a Boss]

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

Angelo was a gem!

He sure was. Some of his quotes were priceless.

[TheLeprechaun]

Well said. Does it matter where the fight is held on account of which fighter has the biggest bollocks? Does it matter who gets paid more or who is the fecking a or b side? Not to me. Let's just get the fight on.

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

Agreed. I don't get the guys who want to make sure that Hearn and Haymon other people get paid well. F*ck that side of it. I'm not a chartered accountant. I just want to see the fights happen.

[tiny_acres]

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

Agreed. I don't get the guys who want to make sure that Hearn and Haymon other people get paid well. F*ck that side of it. I'm not a chartered accountant. I just want to see the fights happen.

yes sir

[Like a Boss]

I won't lie I do like to see the fighters purses.
But I could care less where the promoters or investors get the money from.
Just let's get them in the ring Vegas London or anywhere

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

Agreed. I don't get the guys who want to make sure that Hearn and Haymon other people get paid well. F*ck that side of it. I'm not a chartered accountant. I just want to see the fights happen.

Yep. I don't begrudge them the money. But I am not going to waste my time arguing day after day who should get paid what, like some do.

[PredatorHayds]

Vegas could make a fortune off this fight.
The high rollers will be in.
Also let’s not forget Vegas and The MGM grand have built a reputation of being the fight capital of the world. Big fights elsewhere in the world put a dent in that.
MGM May even take a loss on this fight as it cements their fight hotel reputation and will make it still synonymous with big fights.

Elton, Britney etc get paid millions a week. The casinos take a loss but you can’t put a price on the money they make off the back of the ‘reputation’ and ‘buzz’ it creates.

[oogiebe]

I have only a passing interest in the purses. I like to watch fights and that is about two guys standing in the ring waiting for the bell to ring.

Managers, promoters and trainers are being made out to be stars these days. As Angelo Dundee used to say when people tried to give him the star treatment - "When the bell rings I get out out of the ring."

Agreed. I don't get the guys who want to make sure that Hearn and Haymon other people get paid well. F*ck that side of it. I'm not a chartered accountant. I just want to see the fights happen.

Yep. I don't begrudge them the money. But I am not going to waste my time arguing day after day who should get paid what, like some do.

Funny how one would think that many posters have some sort of investment in this or something. Like it was THEIR money! LMAO!

[GreenLightning]

I'm not a big Joshua fan ,i just like boxing and have eyes

[rd350lc]

I'm not a big Joshua fan ,i just like boxing and have eyes

good for you.

[nitro5912]

Could AJ flying to the states as per his social media indicate something isn't far from being agreed/announced.

[Heretic]

What makes the money question important is the fact that if there is no money there will not be a fight. If the money is there the fight will happen.

The money being there or not depends on whether or not the promoters can get the casuals on board. Wilder is still quite unknown. No PPV fights so far. Joshua is really big in UK but has no PPV fights in states.

Will the casuals buy it?

If Wilder had just couple of more credible wins it would be certainty. Wilder is on the brink of being PPV star.

The problem is they can't really delay the AJ fight for those few more wins since Wilder can loose at any time. He was seconds away from eating the bullet against Ortiz.

So the fight needs to happen now. If the casuals get in the train this could be the next Mayweather McGregor style event. Obviously smaller but close to that scale anyways.

[mickey1975]

What makes the money question important is the fact that if there is no money there will not be a fight. If the money is there the fight will happen.

The money being there or not depends on whether or not the promoters can get the casuals on board. Wilder is still quite unknown. No PPV fights so far. Joshua is really big in UK but has no PPV fights in states.

Will the casuals buy it?

If Wilder had just couple of more credible wins it would be certainty. Wilder is on the brink of being PPV star.

The problem is they can't really delay the AJ fight for those few more wins since Wilder can loose at any time. He was seconds away from eating the bullet against Ortiz.

So the fight needs to happen now. If the casuals get in the train this could be the next Mayweather McGregor style event. Obviously smaller but close to that scale anyways.

But literally nowhere near that scale.

[BigDoofus]

Except nobody has demonstrated how.

You spent about 5 pages on the last thread arguing the same and ridiculing Wilder's bid as not genuine.
Joshua's promoter has repeatedly said that the fight makes more in the States but you still won't have it.

Decision time for AJ. Does he man up or is it going to be the swerve for the easy pickings in Cardiff?

Man up

There's arguments for both sides but saying AJ needs to man up or he's swerving is pathetic Doofus.

Pathetic or true?

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/05/de ... lace-in-uk

[BigDoofus]

So in other words, Wilder is still refusing to fight AJ?

No.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/05/de ... lace-in-uk

[Heretic]

So in other words, Wilder is still refusing to fight AJ?

No.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/05/de ... lace-in-uk

I would expect something called boxing news to be more objective on subject like this.

That article was total crap. That was like reading three page article from EO

[dirk2686]

That article is pathetic. Trying to portray Wilder as a take on all comers type. He was fighting no hopes in eight rounders at the same stage that Joshua was fighting Klitschko.

[Oiky]

Wilder definitely ain't a take on all comers type

[BigDoofus]

Wilder definitely ain't a take on all comers type

In fairness to him he was prepared to fight Povetkin in Moscow. Hearn has said Joshua will probably relinquish if he has to do that.