Canelo Alvarez enrolls in drug testing!

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Canelo Alvarez enrolls in drug testing!

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"Canelo Alvarez enrolls in drug testing, clearing hurdle to GGG rematch"

Canelo Alvarez heard the deafening criticism and on Tuesday announced that he has enrolled in a drug testing program with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

"I want to let you know that I just signed the contract with VADA for year round testing," Alvarez wrote on Twitter.

It is a move that could go a long way to helping restore the Mexican star's tattered reputation and one that clears a major hurdle to putting the much-anticipated rematch with unified middleweight world champion Gennady Golovkin back together for Sept. 15.

"We have received paperwork from Mr. Alvarez's representatives for year-round testing (24/7/365) through VADA," Dr. Margaret Goodman, president of VADA, said in an email to ESPN.

Now he has, and his promoter, Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya, said he is relieved that Alvarez made that decision.

"This is good news," De La Hoya told ESPN. "This is voluntary and Canelo is paying for the testing out of his own pocket because he wants to prove to his fans that he is a clean fighter. Any time they want to test him he will make himself available. ... Canelo is doing this because he is listening to his fans. The criticism will always be there, but he decided to listen and prove to everyone that he is clean."

Coincidentally, the Nevada State Athletic Commission sent its own drug tester to Alvarez's hometown of Guadalajara, Mexico, to test him on Monday -- taking blood and urine for the first time since he was suspended -- once the commission determined it was within its rights to test him. Alvarez was cooperative, according to De La Hoya. The test results won't be available for approximately five days.

"What people don't know is Canelo is getting randomly tested by the Nevada commission," De La Hoya said. "He wants to be tested year-round. He wants to do this for his fans and that's why he's doing this so they won't doubt him."

De La Hoya and Golovkin promoter Tom Loeffler both said Canelo's enrollment will be beneficial to finalizing the rematch.

"We've started discussions with Tom. We want to make the fight happen and this is another step in the right direction," De La Hoya said. "Every top fighter should be tested by VADA on a year-round basis. That's the only way to clean up the sport.

"This is a huge step, a major hurdle we have cleared. There are no excuses whatsoever. GGG wants the fight, Canelo wants this fight, so let's just get past this and move forward and give the fans the fight they want to see again."

Said Loeffler: "I think it's important for Canelo to be enrolled and that was one of the requirements in the discussions we've had with Golden Boy for the rematch. They never balked at it. It's one less hurdle. I'm in continued discussions with (Golden Boy president) Eric (Gomez) and hopefully we have some resolution here in the near future."


Thoughts? :confused:
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About time
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 06:50 About time
He has already been tested by the NSAC within the last few days, but Golden Boy, the NSAC and Canelo didn't disclose this. Enrolling in VADA's program is simply an added bonus.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 06:50 About time
Sure is.
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Sort of counters their claim that they don't need Golovkin and can make money anywhere, this suggests he'd have struggled to get the big fights without it.
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GPTM1403 wrote: 18 May 2018, 06:55 Sort of counters their claim that they don't need Golovkin and can make money anywhere, this suggests he'd have struggled to get the big fights without it.
Fair to say there are a number of reasons why Canelo has changed his stance. Bottom line is it is a good, albeit belated decision.

It will be interesting to compare Canelo's physique when he weighs in for his next fight to how he stripped on the scales for the 1st GGG fight.
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good for him for enrolling, having had however many months to blast as many ped's as his doctor can shove up his ass.

BTW- tests have shown that the athletic benefits of using PED's continues long after the cycle is over, and some gains in EG tendon strength/thickness and so forth are very long-lasting indeed.
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Counter-puncher wrote: 18 May 2018, 07:08 good for him for enrolling, having had however many months to blast as many ped's as his doctor can shove up his ass.

BTW- tests have shown that the athletic benefits of using PED's continues long after the cycle is over, and some gains in EG tendon strength/thickness and so forth are very long-lasting indeed.
Interesting. Canelos neck is very thick...I’ve heard he is called chode-nelo in the gym after a workout when his neck muscles are the veiniest.
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..first step in the right direction..
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lazboy wrote: 18 May 2018, 08:40
Counter-puncher wrote: 18 May 2018, 07:08 good for him for enrolling, having had however many months to blast as many ped's as his doctor can shove up his ass.

BTW- tests have shown that the athletic benefits of using PED's continues long after the cycle is over, and some gains in EG tendon strength/thickness and so forth are very long-lasting indeed.
Interesting. Canelos neck is very thick...I’ve heard he is called chode-nelo in the gym after a workout when his neck muscles are the veiniest.
like i say tests show you don't have to be currently on PED's to derive athletic benefits- the benefits from previous cycles can be ongoing for the medium-long term
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GPTM1403 wrote: 18 May 2018, 06:55 Sort of counters their claim that they don't need Golovkin and can make money anywhere, this suggests he'd have struggled to get the big fights without it.
Canelo's team still have to try their best to maintain his reputation, regardless as to whether Golovkin takes the bout or not. The Mexican's popularity translates to revenue generation, which means he'd never have a problem finding guys willing to be paid millions to face him.
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Counter-puncher wrote: 18 May 2018, 09:00 the benefits from previous cycles can be ongoing for the medium-long term
Of course they are ongoing. If you acquired lean muscles while on PEDs, that muscle isn't going anywhere. You just need to keep training.
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Counter-puncher wrote: 18 May 2018, 07:08 good for him for enrolling, having had however many months to blast as many ped's as his doctor can shove up his ass.

BTW- tests have shown that the athletic benefits of using PED's continues long after the cycle is over, and some gains in EG tendon strength/thickness and so forth are very long-lasting indeed.
I was thinking exactly the same thing myself.

They are obviously more worried about his potential loss of following than they were pretending to be. They also need the Golovkin fight more than they were letting on too.
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Has Canelo had serious issues arise around doping in the past or is this a first offense?
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Every little bit helps. I'd assume he'll definitely want to fight GGG in September then while the PED's are still working.
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gilgamesh wrote: 19 May 2018, 01:06 Every little bit helps. I'd assume he'll definitely want to fight GGG in September then while the PED's are still working.
Interesting point.

His reputation can hardly afford another positive test. So he is going to have to be extremely careful from here on.
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Like a Boss wrote: 19 May 2018, 01:11
gilgamesh wrote: 19 May 2018, 01:06 Every little bit helps. I'd assume he'll definitely want to fight GGG in September then while the PED's are still working.
Interesting point.

His reputation can hardly afford another positive test. So he is going to have to be extremely careful from here on.
Yeah. He'll either fight GGG in September or wait him out another couple of years for him to show SERIOUS signs of decline.
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The great thing about Canelogate is that we will probably see the end of many veteran fighters. In Mayweather's case that can only be a good thing.

The risks in continuing careers via PED use have now increased hugely. If Canelo can get done, then no one is safe.

So let's not be too surprised if we start seeing hugely diminished performances from most 35+ fighters in future.
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Counter-puncher wrote: 18 May 2018, 09:00
lazboy wrote: 18 May 2018, 08:40
Counter-puncher wrote: 18 May 2018, 07:08 good for him for enrolling, having had however many months to blast as many ped's as his doctor can shove up his ass.

BTW- tests have shown that the athletic benefits of using PED's continues long after the cycle is over, and some gains in EG tendon strength/thickness and so forth are very long-lasting indeed.
Interesting. Canelos neck is very thick...I’ve heard he is called chode-nelo in the gym after a workout when his neck muscles are the veiniest.
like i say tests show you don't have to be currently on PED's to derive athletic benefits- the benefits from previous cycles can be ongoing for the medium-long term

- My ol' buddy Billy Shakes used to tell me that ADDoltary is Doltary by any other name, but of course how could Billy ever know about BALCO VADA Vic drug cheats back then?

Fess it up, yer eyeballs is floatin' on PEDs and Viagra because that's all you ever knew about, yet there was a time before you where men actually produced their own testosterone and sex drives, something modern soft lads have lost save a few remnants of actual men left in boxing not killed off by all your self created wars designed to kill off the most virile fighters.

Just for starters, any populace living down stream from a large population area will be inhaling discared drugs through the sewage treatment discharges, and the more downstream, the more drugs, and from the sounds of this lot, most are about as down stream as it gets. And not even inhaling legit pharmaceuticals. Yup, trying to kill boxing one ninny gram at a time...only in BALCO VADA Vic clean boxing drug cheat programs, sorta like TUE cleaning up boxing or Marion Jones cleaning up track and field, or BALCO Barry Bonds cleaning up baseball. Good jobs Brownies.

"Yo, Eddy, I'm young and I'm studly, but chinga, I've been feeling like one of those boxrec wankers. I think I need a few nanograms of clen to tide me over this training camp, so what you got"

"Mi hijo, Que es nanogram?"

"Maldición viejo, se supone que debes conocer todos los trucos de los PED como mi entrenador."

"Todo lo que sé es carne de res, es para mi hijo lo que es para la cena. Todos los veteranos solían entrenar en carne y huevos. Solo piense que su hija se quedará en casa y creará su propia dosis de hormonas, es fácil."

"Gracias viejo, eres un santo :TU: "


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