Who misses the 15 rd title fight?

[Nile4000]

A good argument might be that in an"agony" fight--a excruciatingly dull championship bout--it's better that it only lasts 12 instead of 15.

Witness Lueveno vs Dibb. Fury vs Klitschko. Would you have wanted an extra 3 rounds of those scintillating battles?

Saw Boom Boom Mancini last night on Golden Boy boxing. He mentioned that if his fight with Arguello had been a 15 rounder he would have been champion.

It's true that Mancini did pretty well against Arguello until he was eventually broken down.

But was he actually ahead after 12?

Mancini's fight was a 15 rounder.

I know. I just edited it.

I meant to originally type in 12. Mancini claimed he was ahead of Arguello after 12.

He very well might have been. But I haven't seen the scorecards thru 12.

I remember reading somewhere that Ray was up on Alexis after some point in the fight.

[SenorPipino]

No question.

As I recall seeing it, Mancini was very effective with his pressure and hand speed through at least 10 rounds.

He was quicker than Arguello and certainly appeared to be the stronger, more physical fighter.

But the patient Arguello started to use a very effective body attack during the championship rounds and that began to take a lot of the steam out of Mancini

By the 12th round Arguello was in full command.

The best I can do in research is finding that the fight was officially even after 10 rounds.

But Arguello scored a knockdown in the 12th, so it's unlikely that Boom Boom would have won a 12 rounder as he claimed the other night.

[Abradolf Lincler]

How did fighters possibly go 45 rounds when we see so many appearing out of gas after just 6?

Can pacing explain it all?

No. From what I understand, it wasn't until the Walker Law in 1920 that rounds were officially 3 minutes long. Prior to that, what constituted a round was very different. Alas, I'm no expert on that era. Seems a good topic for a thread, actually.

There was a time when a round lasted until a fighter was knocked down.

A round could be over in seconds.

That was undoubtedly pre-Marquess of Queensberry.

But Walker Law, as I understand it, did not introduce the 3 minute round (that was definitely a Queensberry regulation from the 19th century), but instead limited the actual number of rounds.

No more 45 round fights. 15 for a championship became the norm, although there were exceptions at least through the 30s.

Joe Louis had a few title defenses scheduled for 20 rounds, but the Brown Bomber never had to work overtime.

Yeah? I knew it introduced the 15 round limit (and I thought finalized the traditional 8 weight classes), but haven't really researched it. Just was going off what I thought I'd read in the past.

If fighters were battling it out for 20-45 three minute rounds....Jesus.

[SenorPipino]

No. From what I understand, it wasn't until the Walker Law in 1920 that rounds were officially 3 minutes long. Prior to that, what constituted a round was very different. Alas, I'm no expert on that era. Seems a good topic for a thread, actually.

There was a time when a round lasted until a fighter was knocked down.

A round could be over in seconds.

That was undoubtedly pre-Marquess of Queensberry.

But Walker Law, as I understand it, did not introduce the 3 minute round (that was definitely a Queensberry regulation from the 19th century), but instead limited the actual number of rounds.

No more 45 round fights. 15 for a championship became the norm, although there were exceptions at least through the 30s.

Joe Louis had a few title defenses scheduled for 20 rounds, but the Brown Bomber never had to work overtime.

Yeah? I knew it introduced the 15 round limit (and I thought finalized the traditional 8 weight classes), but haven't really researched it. Just was going off what I thought I'd read in the past.

If fighters were battling it out for 20-45 three minute rounds....Jesus.

Realistically, it had to have made for some very dull fights.

The pace is so many rounds would be very slow with fighters throwing few if any punches.

Not humanely possible to keep up any semblance of a buzzsaw attack for 45 rounds.

[SenorPipino]

There was a time when a round lasted until a fighter was knocked down.

A round could be over in seconds.

That was undoubtedly pre-Marquess of Queensberry.

But Walker Law, as I understand it, did not introduce the 3 minute round (that was definitely a Queensberry regulation from the 19th century), but instead limited the actual number of rounds.

No more 45 round fights. 15 for a championship became the norm, although there were exceptions at least through the 30s.

Joe Louis had a few title defenses scheduled for 20 rounds, but the Brown Bomber never had to work overtime.

Yeah? I knew it introduced the 15 round limit (and I thought finalized the traditional 8 weight classes), but haven't really researched it. Just was going off what I thought I'd read in the past.

If fighters were battling it out for 20-45 three minute rounds....Jesus.

Realistically, it had to have made for some very dull fights.

The pace is so many rounds would be very slow with fighters throwing few if any punches.

Not humanely possible to keep up any semblance of a buzzsaw attack for 45 rounds. Can you imagine a fight like Valdez vs Quigg going 45?

[elmersalsa]

I think that 15 rounds for a title fight should be back especially for the BIG MONEY fights like Mayweather vs Pacquiao for example. All other insignificant title bouts should only be 10 or 12 rounds.

People pay too much money for PPV fights of that magnitude for only to be 12 rounds.

Speaking of outcomes of some fights if they were 15 instead of 12, Meldrick Taylor would have been probably killed after round 12 in his fight with the great Julio Cesar Chavez. He seemed that he was fading by round 11th.

[Brute]

The 15 round fight was done away with because it was found that most serious injuries to fighters was done in the 13th to 15th rounds as boxers became exhausted and less able to defend themselves.

[Brute]

How did fighters possibly go 45 rounds when we see so many appearing out of gas after just 6?

Can pacing explain it all?

In the original London Prize rules a round ended when one fighter was knocked down. It could be very short or very long.

[SenorPipino]

How did fighters possibly go 45 rounds when we see so many appearing out of gas after just 6?

Can pacing explain it all?

In the original London Prize rules a round ended when one fighter was knocked down. It could be very short or very long.

I mentioned that. It was pre-Marquees of Queensbury, when 3 minute rounds were formalized.

But even after the introduction of 3 minute rounds, fights were still scheduled for up to 45 rounds.

Johnson-Willard was slated for that number. It ended in 26.

[Nile4000]

I thought 15 rounds was done away because of network reasons.