I think Jack is gonna stop old Adonis! There is time limit in every sport.

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lazboy wrote: 19 May 2018, 02:17 These guys are normally spot on. Good prefight commentary imo.

Was expecting a joke, i.e. IOTABox or Karceno. Montero is a solid dude.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 19 May 2018, 20:15
lazboy wrote: 19 May 2018, 02:17 These guys are normally spot on. Good prefight commentary imo.

Was expecting a joke, i.e. IOTABox or Karceno. Montero is a solid dude.
Mate they’re all solid Imo. Steve Kim, doug Fischer who’s now editor of ring magazine, montero and the small guy with glasses...all have intelligent things to say. Problem is they post only once a week if that.
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lazboy wrote: 19 May 2018, 20:25
Mexi-Box wrote: 19 May 2018, 20:15
lazboy wrote: 19 May 2018, 02:17 These guys are normally spot on. Good prefight commentary imo.

Was expecting a joke, i.e. IOTABox or Karceno. Montero is a solid dude.
Mate they’re all solid Imo. Steve Kim, doug Fischer who’s now editor of ring magazine, montero and the small guy with glasses...all have intelligent things to say. Problem is they post only once a week if that.
Yeah, I don't mind any of them, but Montero posts sporadically on boxing forums. I like that.
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Adonis +650 now to win a decision. I just put $200 on it. Why the hell not?!
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diddy wrote: 19 May 2018, 21:29 Adonis +650 now to win a decision. I just put $200 on it. Why the hell not?!
I got robbed. Adonis won that fight.
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diddy wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:26
diddy wrote: 19 May 2018, 21:29 Adonis +650 now to win a decision. I just put $200 on it. Why the hell not?!
I got robbed. Adonis won that fight.
Draw seemed fair to me. Could see a win for either fighter though. Close tough fight.
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Taansend wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:32
diddy wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:26
diddy wrote: 19 May 2018, 21:29 Adonis +650 now to win a decision. I just put $200 on it. Why the hell not?!
I got robbed. Adonis won that fight.
Draw seemed fair to me. Could see a win for either fighter though. Close tough fight.
It wasn't an "either-way" fight. Jack was lucky to get the draw. A bit like Canelo/GGG and Broner/Vargas.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:43
Taansend wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:32
diddy wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:26

I got robbed. Adonis won that fight.
Draw seemed fair to me. Could see a win for either fighter though. Close tough fight.
It wasn't an "either-way" fight. Jack was lucky to get the draw. A bit like Canelo/GGG and Broner/Vargas.
Correct. Finding 7 rounds for Jack is not feasible. Finding 6 is a stretch.
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Draw was fair. Or jack by 1 or 2. Some rds were very messy, hard to score.
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diddy wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:45
Mexi-Box wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:43
Taansend wrote: 20 May 2018, 00:32

Draw seemed fair to me. Could see a win for either fighter though. Close tough fight.
It wasn't an "either-way" fight. Jack was lucky to get the draw. A bit like Canelo/GGG and Broner/Vargas.
Correct. Finding 7 rounds for Jack is not feasible. Finding 6 is a stretch.
Correct, that one 115-113 score should have been for Adonis.
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Another spot-on prediction, Apollo :TU:
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I had it 7-5 Adonis. Yet, Jack won the majority his rounds much more decisive. Had Jack started earlier, he would have taken it. Not upset with the draw though.
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Very close match, i had 115 even.
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Close fight Had it 115-113 Adonis but cannot argue with a Draw Jack should have got going sooner then he did.
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I scored the fight even as well but think that Adonis did enough to earn the win as much as i hate to say it. Jack's Team including Floyd should be fired for giving away 1/3 of the rounds as a strategy. Floyd gave away that strategy multiple times leading up to the fight and the stupidity of doing that as a challenger, in the champion's home country, just blows my mind.

The strategy put Jack in a position where he couldn't make a mistake for 8 remaining rounds. Ridiculous. Jack just fights straight up from round 1 and he not only wins easily but gets the KO.
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caldo2025 wrote: 20 May 2018, 10:01 I scored the fight even as well but think that Adonis did enough to earn the win as much as i hate to say it. Jack's Team including Floyd should be fired for giving away 1/3 of the rounds as a strategy. Floyd gave away that strategy multiple times leading up to the fight and the stupidity of doing that as a challenger, in the champion's home country, just blows my mind.

The strategy put Jack in a position where he couldn't make a mistake for 8 remaining rounds. Ridiculous. Jack just fights straight up from round 1 and he not only wins easily but gets the KO.
He would've gotten KO'd himself if he did that. Left himself open for Stevenson's massive left that he likes to spam. He fought scared for a reason.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 20 May 2018, 11:51
caldo2025 wrote: 20 May 2018, 10:01 I scored the fight even as well but think that Adonis did enough to earn the win as much as i hate to say it. Jack's Team including Floyd should be fired for giving away 1/3 of the rounds as a strategy. Floyd gave away that strategy multiple times leading up to the fight and the stupidity of doing that as a challenger, in the champion's home country, just blows my mind.

The strategy put Jack in a position where he couldn't make a mistake for 8 remaining rounds. Ridiculous. Jack just fights straight up from round 1 and he not only wins easily but gets the KO.
He would've gotten KO'd himself if he did that. Left himself open for Stevenson's massive left that he likes to spam. He fought scared for a reason.
I disagree again with you, Bud. I hate punch stats and will continue to hate them even after it helps my point here but I think that in this case, the numbers are telling. Jack clearly won the rounds where his punch volume was up around his average and came very close to ending it albeit those body shots Adonis remarkably landed in the 10th. In fact, I think that the damage he took in the first 5 rounds in the peek-a-boo really hurt Jack's in the later rounds (even the punches blocked by the arms and gloves take their toll late). Here are the punch stats per round if you care to check em out. They gave way too much respect to a 40 year old fighter IMO.

https://www.BS.com/adonis-stev ... ts--128346
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