AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !

[Enlightened-One]

I’m an Anthony Joshua fan, but two of the judges’ scorecards were far too favourable towards the Brit when he fought Wladimir Klitschko. One of the judges only gave ‘Dr Steelhammer’ three rounds.

Similarly, many people (not including myself) believed that Deontay Wilder should have been behind on the scorecards at the time of his stoppage over Luis Ortiz.

And it was no mere coincidence that both world champions faced their title challengers on home turf on those nights.

Wilder and Joshua will both want the fight staged in their home country, hoping that it gives them some sort of unfair advantage when it comes to the scoring the fight.

Losing the fight devalues their ability to generate revenue in the long-term. So one of them might be willing to compromise, by taking a smaller purse, if it means they’re able to have the bout staged in their homeland.

[dickbelden]

i had the ORTIZ vs WILDER fight even going into the 10th round. i had AJ ahead by 1 point going into the 11th round.

[oogiebe]

Joshua claims : “I ain’t got nothing to lose and I’m going to rain down hell on Wilder – I’m going to f*** him up bad".

Can hardly rate that as a well thought out statement.

Not at all. Someone needs to tell AJ he needs to setup the fight in order to f him up.

[SenorPipino]

Well, I'm quite confident Hughie, Takam and Andy Ruiz Jr would beat anyone Wilder ever fought. That's also why Parker deserves much more money then Wilder deserves if he fights AJ.

That would male sense if those guys were any good. The difference between Wilder and Fury is simple. Nobody wants to see Parker fight. So Wilder gets far more.

Nobody wants to see Wilder fight, or at least not up untill now. Somehow everybody wants to see Fury fight. Really, the only thing AJ is after is that word called undisputed, which he will only become after he beats Tyson Fury if nobody else seems to become better before he achieved that. Wilder is just the last beltholder left because he ran away scared to sign a fair deal for the longest time of all of them and the WBC supported him doing it. Such sad ducking behaviour shouldn't be rewarded in my opinion. He still ducks everybody that doesn't offer him 12m+ or got like 1% chance of winning against him. In fact Arreola did win and send him to hospital, but appearantly they made a deal and Arreola was quitting and giving up the fight during the break while relaxing on his seat. Have you ever seen a heavyweight world titlefight where the winner just gave up the fight while winning while his opponent was injured? Well I can't remember I have.

Thank you for clearing it all up for us asdjfkl....for the 1,000th time.

What? You didn't have time to get in a dig at Dr. Goodman and the NSAC? And what about the dirty cheating Americans?

[MrGuy]

Well, I'm quite confident Hughie, Takam and Andy Ruiz Jr would beat anyone Wilder ever fought. That's also why Parker deserves much more money then Wilder deserves if he fights AJ.

That would male sense if those guys were any good. The difference between Wilder and Fury is simple. Nobody wants to see Parker fight. So Wilder gets far more.

Nobody wants to see Wilder fight, or at least not up untill now. Somehow everybody wants to see Fury fight. Really, the only thing AJ is after is that word called undisputed, which he will only become after he beats Tyson Fury if nobody else seems to become better before he achieved that. Wilder is just the last beltholder left because he ran away scared to sign a fair deal for the longest time of all of them and the WBC supported him doing it. Such sad ducking behaviour shouldn't be rewarded in my opinion. He still ducks everybody that doesn't offer him 12m+ or got like 1% chance of winning against him. In fact Arreola did win and send him to hospital, but appearantly they made a deal and Arreola was quitting and giving up the fight during the break while relaxing on his seat. Have you ever seen a heavyweight world titlefight where the winner just gave up the fight while winning while his opponent was injured? Well I can't remember I have.

And they want to see exciting fighters like Fury or Parker?

[man]

really,? that is such a shock to everyone? AJ
has done more, achieved more and it is on
him to say where he meets contenders. how
about phrasing it like:

"wilder refuses to meet joshua in wembley
stadium?"

[Like a Boss]

Joshua claims : “I ain’t got nothing to lose and I’m going to rain down hell on Wilder – I’m going to f*** him up bad".

Can hardly rate that as a well thought out statement.

Not at all. Someone needs to tell AJ he needs to setup the fight in order to f him up.

Yes, getting the fight made would be a tremendous first step.

[caldo2025]

I’m an Anthony Joshua fan, but two of the judges’ scorecards were far too favourable towards the Brit when he fought Wladimir Klitschko. One of the judges only gave ‘Dr Steelhammer’ three rounds.

Similarly, many people (not including myself) believed that Deontay Wilder should have been behind on the scorecards at the time of his stoppage over Luis Ortiz.

And it was no mere coincidence that both world champions faced their title challengers on home turf on those nights.

Wilder and Joshua will both want the fight staged in their home country, hoping that it gives them some sort of unfair advantage when it comes to the scoring the fight.

Losing the fight devalues their ability to generate revenue in the long-term. So one of them might be willing to compromise, by taking a smaller purse, if it means they’re able to have the bout staged in their homeland.

The ridiculous part of it all is that the odds of this fight ending up in the judges hands is extremely low. Nowhere to hide in that small ring for these 2 monsters. I know that there are other important benefits fighting at home aside but if each guys main concern is scoring then it's silly. It's going to be a KO one way or the other way.

Sure AJ does look like a clown for turning it down after going on record but I think that the ball is still in Wilder's camp right now to make things happen. Wilder tried his best to bring the fight to the US but it didn't sell. If it didn't sell for 50m, it's not selling. So if he REALLY wants this fight as much as he's yapping, he's got come to the table and agree to fight overseas for this one. AJ has the belts, the support and the A-side so he earned the right to dictate some big factors.

[Enlightened-One]

I’m an Anthony Joshua fan, but two of the judges’ scorecards were far too favourable towards the Brit when he fought Wladimir Klitschko. One of the judges only gave ‘Dr Steelhammer’ three rounds.

Similarly, many people (not including myself) believed that Deontay Wilder should have been behind on the scorecards at the time of his stoppage over Luis Ortiz.

And it was no mere coincidence that both world champions faced their title challengers on home turf on those nights.

Wilder and Joshua will both want the fight staged in their home country, hoping that it gives them some sort of unfair advantage when it comes to the scoring the fight.

Losing the fight devalues their ability to generate revenue in the long-term. So one of them might be willing to compromise, by taking a smaller purse, if it means they’re able to have the bout staged in their homeland.

The ridiculous part of it all is that the odds of this fight ending up in the judges hands is extremely low. Nowhere to hide in that small ring for these 2 monsters. I know that there are other important benefits fighting at home aside but if each guys main concern is scoring then it's silly. It's going to be a KO one way or the other way.

Sure AJ does look like a clown for turning it down after going on record but I think that the ball is still in Wilder's camp right now to make things happen. Wilder tried his best to bring the fight to the US but it didn't sell. If it didn't sell for 50m, it's not selling. So if he REALLY wants this fight as much as he's yapping, he's got come to the table and agree to fight overseas for this one. AJ has the belts, the support and the A-side so he earned the right to dictate some big factors.

It looks like I was correct about compromises being made by the fighter who wants the bout to be staged in their home country:

"Anthony Joshua ‘to take £7m pay cut’ to deliver Deontay Wilder knockout to UK fans"

ANTHONY JOSHUA is willing to leave at least £7million on the table in order to force Deontay Wilder to come to the UK to defend his WBC belt in an undisputed heavyweight showdown this year, it has been claimed.

Speaking to The Telegraph this week, Joshua’s promoter, Eddie Hearn, provided an update on negotiations between the two sides.

“One thing is for absolute certain, AJ wants Wilder next," Hearn said.

"He’s made that clear. He also feels though, after talking to Rob McCracken, his trainer and manager, that this is a fight that should be delivered in the UK.

"AJ’s not really swayed by an extra £10m or £15m. He’d rather do the fight over here in front of his fans.

[jvincent]

Ive been thinking about this since chatting with oogbie a week or so ago. Still think its a 50/50 fight in terms of who wins but I think Joshua holds the cards and it should be held where he decides if Wilder wants a crack at the other belts.

Anyone know why Wilder is suspended on his record on here?

[Gimp Mask]

Anyone know why Wilder is suspended on his record on here?

I believe it's a medical suspension after his grueling fight with Ortiz.

A thread was made not too long ago about these suspensions. Practically all these boxers have suspensions after a fight on their records according to Boxrec. They are usually medical suspensions or something benign like that.

[dickbelden]

sounds like AJ wants more than a $50 million guarantee with no upside cap to come to NYC or VEGAS. https://www.BS.com/hearn-provi ... ns--128438

[caldo2025]

I’m an Anthony Joshua fan, but two of the judges’ scorecards were far too favourable towards the Brit when he fought Wladimir Klitschko. One of the judges only gave ‘Dr Steelhammer’ three rounds.

Similarly, many people (not including myself) believed that Deontay Wilder should have been behind on the scorecards at the time of his stoppage over Luis Ortiz.

And it was no mere coincidence that both world champions faced their title challengers on home turf on those nights.

Wilder and Joshua will both want the fight staged in their home country, hoping that it gives them some sort of unfair advantage when it comes to the scoring the fight.

Losing the fight devalues their ability to generate revenue in the long-term. So one of them might be willing to compromise, by taking a smaller purse, if it means they’re able to have the bout staged in their homeland.

The ridiculous part of it all is that the odds of this fight ending up in the judges hands is extremely low. Nowhere to hide in that small ring for these 2 monsters. I know that there are other important benefits fighting at home aside but if each guys main concern is scoring then it's silly. It's going to be a KO one way or the other way.

Sure AJ does look like a clown for turning it down after going on record but I think that the ball is still in Wilder's camp right now to make things happen. Wilder tried his best to bring the fight to the US but it didn't sell. If it didn't sell for 50m, it's not selling. So if he REALLY wants this fight as much as he's yapping, he's got come to the table and agree to fight overseas for this one. AJ has the belts, the support and the A-side so he earned the right to dictate some big factors.

It looks like I was correct about compromises being made by the fighter who wants the bout to be staged in their home country:

"Anthony Joshua ‘to take £7m pay cut’ to deliver Deontay Wilder knockout to UK fans"

ANTHONY JOSHUA is willing to leave at least £7million on the table in order to force Deontay Wilder to come to the UK to defend his WBC belt in an undisputed heavyweight showdown this year, it has been claimed.

Speaking to The Telegraph this week, Joshua’s promoter, Eddie Hearn, provided an update on negotiations between the two sides.

“One thing is for absolute certain, AJ wants Wilder next," Hearn said.

"He’s made that clear. He also feels though, after talking to Rob McCracken, his trainer and manager, that this is a fight that should be delivered in the UK.

"AJ’s not really swayed by an extra £10m or £15m. He’d rather do the fight over here in front of his fans.

It’s clearly on Wilder now to show how badly he really wants the fight. If I’m AJ, I’m definitely taking the cut in pay for advantages of home. Now the question really is how much less, if anything, is Wilder making to fight over there?

[Seathyboi]

I can't see this fight happening outside the UK and hopefully and more probably it ma happen in Wembley like the Klitschko.

[greg]

..it's fun to watch how both superstars are desperately trying to make sure they fight in their own backyards, I wonder why

[oogiebe]

..it's fun to watch how both superstars are desperately trying to make sure they fight in their own backyards, I wonder why

Especially considering they are both kayo artists.

[oogiebe]

Here's my deal (without regards to the money side).

Fight in Vegas with UK ref

OR

Fight in UK with American ref.

[boxing_rocks]

[dickbelden]

WOW ! BARCLAYS CENTER thinks they can outbid VEGAS for the AJ vs WILDER fight ! http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... ter-desire

[MrGuy]

Well, I'm quite confident Hughie, Takam and Andy Ruiz Jr would beat anyone Wilder ever fought. That's also why Parker deserves much more money then Wilder deserves if he fights AJ.

That would male sense if those guys were any good. The difference between Wilder and Fury is simple. Nobody wants to see Parker fight. So Wilder gets far more.

Nobody wants to see Wilder fight, or at least not up untill now. Somehow everybody wants to see Fury fight. Really, the only thing AJ is after is that word called undisputed, which he will only become after he beats Tyson Fury if nobody else seems to become better before he achieved that. Wilder is just the last beltholder left because he ran away scared to sign a fair deal for the longest time of all of them and the WBC supported him doing it. Such sad ducking behaviour shouldn't be rewarded in my opinion. He still ducks everybody that doesn't offer him 12m+ or got like 1% chance of winning against him. In fact Arreola did win and send him to hospital, but appearantly they made a deal and Arreola was quitting and giving up the fight during the break while relaxing on his seat. Have you ever seen a heavyweight world titlefight where the winner just gave up the fight while winning while his opponent was injured? Well I can't remember I have.

Nobody wants do see Fury do anything but lose. Has dreadful. Arreola won? Joshua has fought better comp, just not much better.

[Enlightened-One]

Nobody wants to see Wilder fight...

Nobody wants do see Fury do anything but lose...

“Nobody wants to see” people making bûllshît claims that aren’t true.

I enjoy seeing Wilder fight and there will be bouts that I’d like to see Fury emerge victorious from.

[dickbelden]

HEARN says the $50 million is REAL ! AJ seems to still b unwilling to fight WILDER in USA https://www.BS.com/joshua-hear ... uk--128489

[Gimp Mask]

The fight at Wembley Stadium might give it greater historical significance, but they make more money fighting in Vegas. Everyone knows Vegas makes the most money. AJ needs to make a smart business decision and fight in Vegas. Or someone in the UK needs to sweeten the pot to equal Vegas money.

[MrGuy]

Nobody wants to see Wilder fight...

Nobody wants do see Fury do anything but lose...

“Nobody wants to see” people making bûllshît claims that aren’t true.

I enjoy seeing Wilder fight and there will be bouts that I’d like to see Fury emerge victorious from.

Most dont care do see him. This is factual. A BS claim would be saying Fury can actually fight.

[Enlightened-One]

Nobody wants to see Wilder fight...

Nobody wants do see Fury do anything but lose...

“Nobody wants to see” people making bûllshît claims that aren’t true.

I enjoy seeing Wilder fight and there will be bouts that I’d like to see Fury emerge victorious from.

Most dont care do see him. This is factual. A BS claim would be saying Fury can actually fight.

WTF are you talking about? Can you not read? FGS! Stop acting like a twát!