Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

McDonnell vs. Inoue Winner and How?

Jamie McDonnell Stoppage
3
4%
Jamie McDonnell Decision
11
13%
Draw
1
1%
Naoya Inoue Decision
18
22%
Naoya Inoue Stoppage
49
60%
 
Total votes: 82

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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Shiro won with a "phantom-punch" - barely touched him !
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Also....

is it my telly or has Matt Macklin got a lot of hair dye and a syrup ?
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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So Ken Shiro stopped Lopez with a brutal right hand
and now Inoue has wins over 5 people to have been world champions (Taguchi, Hernandez, Narvaez, Kono and McDonnell). Japanese papers all reported that McDonnell put on 12KG's over night, Inoue put on 6KG
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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I thought it would look bad for Jamie early. But obviously not this bad. Obviously a shrewd move for the promoters, Inoue gaining vitality whereas Jamie has clearly been on fumes for years. He has walked a tightrope but no one has been good enough or aggressive enough to make him pay for it. Inoue has that artillery. I saw it in the battl with Taguchi and I saw it in the blowout of another respected and experienced/over the hill champ, Omar Narvaez.

It turned out to be a great idea going for McDonnell - whose weight issues have been public for years - as opposed to the monstrous and massive Thai, Srisaket, which would have garnered good US TV money.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Who’s going to be a match for Inoue?

Obviously a great deal of excitement heading into the WBSS bantamweight tournament.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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skanksta wrote: 25 May 2018, 08:45 Shiro won with a "phantom-punch" - barely touched him !
You joking? My liver is still sore after watching it from my armchair.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Autobarn wrote: 25 May 2018, 09:09 Who’s going to be a match for Inoue?

Obviously a great deal of excitement heading into the WBSS bantamweight tournament.
Tete :maybe:
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Tete is the sort of fighter Inoue will have fun against, he eats up back foot tighter with his foot work way too easily.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Here's the fight.

Inoue very f*cking calm. Even after the 1st knockdown he's just totally focussed. Very impressive.

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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Fckin hell that was devastating stuff. Don't think McDonnell landed a punch.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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tobyh5 wrote: 25 May 2018, 08:33 Commentators immediately blaming Jamie being weight drained.

When our guys lose there is an excuse for something being wrong with them rather than it being something superior from the other guy.

When our guys win it is always because they are better

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Looked to me like he knew he was gonna get smashed when he was walking to the ring
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Sensational performance from Inoue. As I expected he is more powerful at Bantamweight. He didn't even land his cleanest shots on McDonnell.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Another British shoe shiner gets sparked.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Inoue is going to tear through everyone in the WBSS. The kid is lethal.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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TheLeprechaun wrote: 25 May 2018, 12:02 Another British shoe shiner gets sparked.

Brutal
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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ElJefe wrote: 25 May 2018, 12:11 Inoue is going to tear through everyone in the WBSS. The kid is lethal.

I honestly can not see anyway whatsoever Ryan Burnett fights Naoya Inoue.

Will be very interesting how it plays out.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Taansend wrote: 25 May 2018, 09:42 Here's the fight.

Inoue very f*cking calm. Even after the 1st knockdown he's just totally focussed. Very impressive.

Excellent performance from Inoue. Fast sharp accurate punching from the first bell.

He seemed to take no time at all to sus Mcdonnell out and the writing was on the wall from the very start.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Mcdonnell shouldve took a few rounds to sit back and defend ugly and then sussed his power. He went forward and was open to counter. He was the bigger guy. Fight on back foot out of range.

It mightve been the same result but he wouldve looked more respectable. Ive never rated mcdonnells tappy tappy forward boxing. An elite blitzed him and hes had a good career but hes not and never will be world class.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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ThereByTheGrace wrote: 25 May 2018, 18:17 Mcdonnell shouldve took a few rounds to sit back and defend ugly and then sussed his power. He went forward and was open to counter. He was the bigger guy. Fight on back foot out of range.

It mightve been the same result but he wouldve looked more respectable. Ive never rated mcdonnells tappy tappy forward boxing. An elite blitzed him and hes had a good career but hes not and never will be world class.
Behave yourself mate, of course he is or was world class. Won IBF and WBA titles, beat the WBO champion who was very decent. If a guy winning (or should have held) three versions of a world title is not world class, well fck knows what is. Being blitzed in one fight (against an extremely hard hitting talented guy) does not mean you have not or are not world class.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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tobyh5 wrote: 26 May 2018, 01:25
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 25 May 2018, 18:17 Mcdonnell shouldve took a few rounds to sit back and defend ugly and then sussed his power. He went forward and was open to counter. He was the bigger guy. Fight on back foot out of range.

It mightve been the same result but he wouldve looked more respectable. Ive never rated mcdonnells tappy tappy forward boxing. An elite blitzed him and hes had a good career but hes not and never will be world class.
Behave yourself mate, of course he is or was world class. Won IBF and WBA titles, beat the WBO champion who was very decent. If a guy winning (or should have held) three versions of a world title is not world class, well fck knows what is. Being blitzed in one fight (against an extremely hard hitting talented guy) does not mean you have not or are not world class.
Jamie is world class. He ain't the first fighter to have stayed at a weight division to long.

He lost to a quality fighter but, if he never fought again, he could hold his head up high.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Deno1986 wrote: 25 May 2018, 09:28
skanksta wrote: 25 May 2018, 08:45 Shiro won with a "phantom-punch" - barely touched him !
You joking? My liver is still sore after watching it from my armchair.
:TU: Its strange how hardcore boxing fans can see things different, I thought it was a sickener of a straight right to the pit of the stomach, the kind of shot that makes you bring up your tea
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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tobyh5 wrote: 26 May 2018, 01:25
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 25 May 2018, 18:17 Mcdonnell shouldve took a few rounds to sit back and defend ugly and then sussed his power. He went forward and was open to counter. He was the bigger guy. Fight on back foot out of range.

It mightve been the same result but he wouldve looked more respectable. Ive never rated mcdonnells tappy tappy forward boxing. An elite blitzed him and hes had a good career but hes not and never will be world class.
Behave yourself mate, of course he is or was world class. Won IBF and WBA titles, beat the WBO champion who was very decent. If a guy winning (or should have held) three versions of a world title is not world class, well fck knows what is. Being blitzed in one fight (against an extremely hard hitting talented guy) does not mean you have not or are not world class.
Very well said.

Great fights with Hall, Ceja and Kameda. The latter is not an easy to to hit but McDonnell was able to outwork the slick and frustrating Japanese fighter.

In hindsight he should’ve got out of the bantam division after the Kameda rivalry.

In those two fights he way overstayed. And afterward, when he’s severely weigh weakened, to go in with an offensive talent maybe on the level of Tszyu or Morales...

Hearn seems to neglect the lighter weights - my main criticism of Eddie - in contrast to say Warren.
Warren obviously put a lot of thought into getting Warrington to a world title and Hearn seemed to put none into McDonnell. Weak at the weight, inactive > biggest fight of his career... whereas Warren gave Warrington the absolute best chance of getting the best result.

But I don’t know, sometimes Jamie has sometimes seemed complacent in his attitudes toward opponents saying Inoue is “the same” as Kameda.

I’m gutted as I felt he was the best out of Quigg, Frampton, Warrington & Selby.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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ThereByTheGrace wrote: 25 May 2018, 18:17 Mcdonnell shouldve took a few rounds to sit back and defend ugly and then sussed his power. He went forward and was open to counter. He was the bigger guy. Fight on back foot out of range.

It mightve been the same result but he wouldve looked more respectable. Ive never rated mcdonnells tappy tappy forward boxing. An elite blitzed him and hes had a good career but hes not and never will be world class.
Horrible comment. He had a number of hard fought world title wins in which he demonstrated skill and endurance.

Abner Mares got blasted away in a round (by Johnny Gonzalez) after being in a number of close, debatable, controversial world title bouts (v Darchinyan, Perez, Agbeko) - & no one said he wasn’t world class.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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Autobarn wrote: 26 May 2018, 03:45
ThereByTheGrace wrote: 25 May 2018, 18:17 Mcdonnell shouldve took a few rounds to sit back and defend ugly and then sussed his power. He went forward and was open to counter. He was the bigger guy. Fight on back foot out of range.

It mightve been the same result but he wouldve looked more respectable. Ive never rated mcdonnells tappy tappy forward boxing. An elite blitzed him and hes had a good career but hes not and never will be world class.
Horrible comment. He had a number of hard fought world title wins in which he demonstrated skill and endurance.

Abner Mares got blasted away in a round (by Johnny Gonzalez) after being in a number of close, debatable, controversial world title bouts (v Darchinyan, Perez, Agbeko) - & no one said he wasn’t world class.

Well he has been successful but I put him on Paul butlers level. Both guys that beat butler would beat McDonnell and butler probably beats the guys McDonnell has beat. Maybe McDonnell is slightly better but not by much. Yes he won world honours but against who? Winning world honours makes you world level of course but in terms of talent and skill I don't rate him too highly. The main thing he has is good movement and being very tall for the weight.
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Re: Jamie McDonnell (WBA 'Regular') vs. Naoya Inoue - May 25th 2018

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not really sure that butler beats kameda and ceja and solis, also i doubt rodriguez wouldve done a 120-106 job on mcdonell, rodriguez getting talked up by some as special but i thought he was merely good but not great.i doubt mcdonnell wouldve looked totally clueless vs him butler has never impressed me and i would put him defo on a lower teir then mcdonnel

btw as far as abilities mcdonnell also has good stamina, some of the best in the division.

mcdonnell never really a flashy guy at all but i think he was at a time deserving of being rnaked #2 in the world behind yamanaka. i would say that he was world class but obviously there are still levels even within world class, and clearly mcdon was not close to that elite, p4p type of fighter like inoue
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