loma out till december at earliest

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jamamb
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loma out till december at earliest

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has a bad tear from a dislocation in his right shoulder, apparently felt it in round 2 vs linny
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Shame. He usually fights 3 times a year.
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Well he is 30 years old with a long long amateur career.. It will not surprise me to see more injuries in the next year.
It happens to the best of them.
i wish him a speedy recovery
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Probably the reason Arum suddenly said that Lomachenko wouldn't be fighting Beltran or anyone else in August.
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SenorPipino wrote: 29 May 2018, 19:55 Probably the reason Arum suddenly said that Lomachenko wouldn't be fighting Beltran or anyone else in August.
That was the reason.
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So, Loma fought injured for 8 rounds against Linares. Makes the win even more impressive.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 29 May 2018, 21:21 So, Loma fought injured for 8 rounds against Linares. Makes the win even more impressive.
Sure does.

Linares back was covered in zits too that looked mad suspicious, did anyone else notice that or has He normally looked like that
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SFW wrote: 29 May 2018, 22:51
boxing_rocks wrote: 29 May 2018, 21:21 So, Loma fought injured for 8 rounds against Linares. Makes the win even more impressive.
Sure does.

Linares back was covered in zits too that looked mad suspicious, did anyone else notice that or has He normally looked like that
We all know what it's about. Combined with that huge winning streak he was on, there's only one explanation.
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SFW wrote: 29 May 2018, 22:51
boxing_rocks wrote: 29 May 2018, 21:21 So, Loma fought injured for 8 rounds against Linares. Makes the win even more impressive.
Sure does.

Linares back was covered in zits too that looked mad suspicious, did anyone else notice that or has He normally looked like that
Someone else here was freaking out about the zits on fight night.

I just shrug. I see plenty 30+ guys with acne on their shoulders.

Half the teenagers in America must be on PEDS if zits are foolproof evidence.
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lookingaround87 wrote: 29 May 2018, 22:54
SFW wrote: 29 May 2018, 22:51
boxing_rocks wrote: 29 May 2018, 21:21 So, Loma fought injured for 8 rounds against Linares. Makes the win even more impressive.
Sure does.

Linares back was covered in zits too that looked mad suspicious, did anyone else notice that or has He normally looked like that
We all know what it's about. Combined with that huge winning streak he was on, there's only one explanation.
The timing of that streak was interesting too. Linares was ready to pack it in after the stoppage losses to De Marco and Thompson, ready to retire. Then doesnt lose again for 5-6 years. Quite a rejuvenation. He can't be condemned without reason, but that is interesting timing there.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 29 May 2018, 21:21 So, Loma fought injured for 8 rounds against Linares. Makes the win even more impressive.
True but it also makes his future even more questionable. Sometimes manning up and playing/fighting through injury can be an unwise move. Take former Boston Celts fan Isaiah Thomas. He played through that hip injury in last year's playoffs and now it looks like his career (at age 29) is finished at top level. :verysad:
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Anyone had this type of injury?
I'm not familiar with it. Rotator cuff I know all about. I take it the tendons over the shoulder are torn which allows the arm to pop in and out of the socket?
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http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... der-injury

some stuff from the doctor doing surgery
Pound-for-pound king Vasiliy Lomachenko suffered a torn labrum in his right shoulder during his knockout of Jorge Linares to win the lightweight world championship on May 12 and will undergo arthroscopic surgery on Wednesday in Los Angeles, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.

Lomachenko told ESPN on Tuesday that he suffered the injury during the second round of the fight. He said his right shoulder popped out of place and then back in and gave him trouble for the remainder of the bout.

"I couldn't use my right arm to throw my right hook, and it was very uncomfortable to continue my fight," said Lomachenko, speaking to ESPN immediately following his examination by orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache at the Kerlan Jobe Orthopedic Clinic in Los Angeles.

ElAttrache will perform the 60- to 90-minute arthroscopic procedure on Lomachenko. After examining the fighter, including giving him an MRI, ElAttrache told ESPN: "There is clear evidence that he had a recent dislocation of the shoulder, and the most common injury that happens when there is a dislocation is a tear in the labrum. His is pretty extensive. A typical tear usually goes from about 2 o'clock if you're looking at the face of a clock down to about 6 o'clock. His goes almost all the way around. I would say he has significant instability of his right shoulder."

ElAttrache estimated that if all goes well with the surgery and Lomachenko's rehabilitation that he could return to training in early October and be ready to fight in early December.

"None of these things are carved in stone," ElAttrache said. "The most important thing is to protect him and allow this to heal properly. With what I'm seeing now that's the timetable if things go perfectly."

Arum, who was with Lomachenko and manager Egis Klimas at the exam, said that if there are no complications, Lomachenko will return to the ring in the main event of a Top Rank Boxing on ESPN card on Dec. 8.

In a highly competitive and exciting fight, Lomachenko (11-1, 9 KOs) knocked out Linares to win the lightweight world title at Madison Square Garden in New York, but he had some struggles, in part due to the shoulder injury, including getting knocked down for the first time in his career in the sixth round.

At ringside after the fight, Arum said Lomachenko would make his first defense on Aug. 25 at The Forum in Inglewood, California, but last week he told ESPN that there had been a change of plans and that Lomachenko, who vacated his junior lightweight world title in order to defend his belt at lightweight, would not fight this summer.

Arum knew then that Lomachenko was having shoulder pain but declined to give a reason he wouldn't fight on Aug. 25 until Lomachenko had been examined by ElAttrache. Lomachenko had returned home to Ukraine after the bout but experienced continued pain in his shoulder.

"The shoulder popped out and then popped back in so he was able to finish the fight, but when he went back home it was hurting him and so he got an MRI in the Ukraine, and it showed the tear," Arum said. "He was making arrangements to take care of it over there and that's when Egis and myself said you have to come here [to Los Angeles] and have Dr. ElAttrache look at you and do the operation."

Lomachenko returned to the United States on Monday and then went to see ElAttrache, who is the team doctor for the Los Angeles Dodgers and Rams. He has treated boxers before, performing rotator cuff surgery on Manny Pacquiao following his loss to Floyd Mayweather in 2015 and also operating on former heavyweight world champion Vitali Klitschko and former welterweight titlist Andre Berto. Besides boxing, he has operated on NBA legend Kobe Bryant and New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, among many others.

According to Arum and Klimas, Lomachenko has had occasional pain in his right shoulder in the past but nothing severe.

"Every once in a while when he would spar, he'd have pain in the shoulder but then he'd ice it and then there'd be no problem," Arum said. "But this time it was different with the pain he was having in the fight and after the fight. So, obviously, Aug. 25 is out for his next fight and we're looking at Dec. 8. If the shoulder doesn't come around in time we'll have to postpone it, but we're looking at him being ready to go Dec. 8. But we know there are no guarantees."
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What a bummer, guy was really to small to be fighting at 135, he can do it but he had to really push himself. Hopefully it is not career altering in a major way and he can make adjustments..
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How come it took so long to figure out his shoulder was fucked?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 May 2018, 03:20 How come it took so long to figure out his shoulder was fucked?
Who said it did?
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I know Loma had a lot of amateur fights but pro fights are different. If you injure your body in the second round of an amateur fight you don't have a long time to push still ahead of you. Pro fights are longer and more grueling, especially when you have a tough opponent. Guys who have a strong resume and 30 or so fights under their belt are showing the ability to endure. Remains to be seen how long Loma can Maintain his hurricane style offense over the stretch.
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Lomachenko has been on fire the last couple of years.
Let's see him back soon.
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tiny_acres wrote: 29 May 2018, 18:48 Well he is 30 years old with a long long amateur career.. It will not surprise me to see more injuries in the next year.
It happens to the best of them.
i wish him a speedy recovery
True & add in the fact that his career trajectory seems to be moving up in weight all the time.

He is going to be tangling with much larger fighters & he's not that big himself.

He could potentially end up perpetually injured, much like David Haye.
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Hopefully when he recovers he'll be in a big fight that the fans would really enjoy like a fight with Mikey Garcia or something. A Linares rematch would be interesting as well.
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jpspice wrote: 30 May 2018, 22:44 I know Loma had a lot of amateur fights but pro fights are different. If you injure your body in the second round of an amateur fight you don't have a long time to push still ahead of you. Pro fights are longer and more grueling, especially when you have a tough opponent. Guys who have a strong resume and 30 or so fights under their belt are showing the ability to endure. Remains to be seen how long Loma can Maintain his hurricane style offense over the stretch.
The intense training that he will have done throughout his amateur career would have impacted on his body. Elite athletes pick up wear and tear because they are constantly pushing their bodies to the limit. Even if amateur fights are less punishing than professional ones the training will still be a factor.

I always thought Lomachenko would have a short professional career simply for that reason...
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chinarich wrote: 02 Jun 2018, 14:20
jpspice wrote: 30 May 2018, 22:44 I know Loma had a lot of amateur fights but pro fights are different. If you injure your body in the second round of an amateur fight you don't have a long time to push still ahead of you. Pro fights are longer and more grueling, especially when you have a tough opponent. Guys who have a strong resume and 30 or so fights under their belt are showing the ability to endure. Remains to be seen how long Loma can Maintain his hurricane style offense over the stretch.
The intense training that he will have done throughout his amateur career would have impacted on his body. Elite athletes pick up wear and tear because they are constantly pushing their bodies to the limit. Even if amateur fights are less punishing than professional ones the training will still be a factor.

I always thought Lomachenko would have a short professional career simply for that reason...
Plus, he's already 30 years old.
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..correct me if I'm wrong Loma had 350+ fights as an amateur which has certainly taken its toll..and probably in a couple of years will start running out of time..one of the reasons why he's in a hurry to fight the best ..
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