Terence Crawford vs. Jeff Horn - June 9, 2018

[SenorPipino]

Wasn't Crawford a lightweight at that time?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wasn't Crawford a lightweight at that time?

He was big enough to make 140, or even just after that.

[SenorPipino]

Wasn't Crawford a lightweight at that time?

He was big enough to make 140, or even just after that.

Crawford has been on the Pacquiao radar for several years but they've never hooked up.

It seemed like 2017 was going to be the year, but it fell apart when Horn beat Pac, and then Pacquiao avoided a rematch.

With Pacquiao apparently a free agent now, it seems unlikely that he'll tangle with Crawford.

Nearly 40, the Filipino will now carefully choose his opponents.

Better chance he faces the smaller Lomachenko at 140.

But Crawford certainly needs a name fighter on his resume. Fights with Spence or Thurman seem like longshots for now.

[G.McClellan]

Horn looks the part. Rough, rugged and raw. I don't see Crawford stopping him.
Some eye catching shots amidst an all out war is what I see happening.

[SenorPipino]

Horn looks the part. Rough, rugged and raw. I don't see Crawford stopping him.
Some eye catching shots amidst an all out war is what I see happening.

An unrestrained, aging Pacquiao almost had Horn out of there.

I can't see Crawford letting that kind of opportunity escape.

Horn's not a difficult guy to hit and it could spell a quick end to the fight, unless the champion becomes uncharacteristically cautious.

But he's cocky, and probably believes that as a natural welter, he'll be too strong and physical for Crawford.

So Horn will undoubtedly take it to the challenger and walk into all kinds of shots he doesn't see coming.

These two fighters are at different levels. Crawford's rise in weight will be irrelevant to the outcome.

Maybe it will look somewhat like Hatton having no answer to the speed and power of Pacquiao and getting blown out.

[jamamb]

crawford usually needs time and accumulation. hes more a sharp puncher then big puncher and now moving up again. i think if he stops horn it will be later on after outclassing him, but maybe he gets him out early.

[littlepug]

Cant see Horn coping with the angles bud will give him, he will be walking on to slashing shots he cant see all night, Horn to be pulled out around the 10th after a gutsy effort for me.

[Lairdy]

Horn looks the part. Rough, rugged and raw. I don't see Crawford stopping him.
Some eye catching shots amidst an all out war is what I see happening.

But he's cocky

I'm not sure if you are talking about the same Jeff Horn. Horn is one of the most humble boxers on the planet.

[DrDuke]

On the one hand, it's hard to imagine Horn's success, cause Crawford possesses obviously more of a class. On the other hand, it's a clash of styles battle, an elusive technician vs an ugly bruiser. I pick Crawford to outbox Horn eventually knocking him out, but I'll be glad to see surprises.

[Ruthless-RKO]

There wasn’t a significant size difference between Terence Crawford and Jeff Horn as they stood face-to-face Friday afternoon at MGM Grand Garden Arena.

The 5-feet-9 Horn stands one inch taller than Crawford, but they officially weighed in one pound apart. Crawford stepped on the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s scale at a career-high 146½ pounds for his welterweight debut, half-a-pound less than Horn, who officially weighed 147 pounds.

Horn first got on the scale at 148 pounds, one full pound above the welterweight limit. He stripped naked, yet still was half-a-pound heavy when he stepped on it again.

[Like a Boss]

There wasn’t a significant size difference between Terence Crawford and Jeff Horn as they stood face-to-face Friday afternoon at MGM Grand Garden Arena.

The 5-feet-9 Horn stands one inch taller than Crawford, but they officially weighed in one pound apart. Crawford stepped on the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s scale at a career-high 146½ pounds for his welterweight debut, half-a-pound less than Horn, who officially weighed 147 pounds.

Horn first got on the scale at 148 pounds, one full pound above the welterweight limit. He stripped naked, yet still was half-a-pound heavy when he stepped on it again.

Wait til they get in the ring.

Crawford was 146.5 wearing shorts. Take them off and he weighs even less.

Horn was dry as a chip and struggled to even make 147. He will re hydrate way bigger than Crawford.

[jamamb]

outside hw the weigh in weights are almost always close, thats not what makes a size difference or not

[ValMar]

outside hw the weigh in weights are almost always close, thats not what makes a size difference or not

Obviously.............

[SenorPipino]

Anyone buying Horn's claim that at the post weigh-in face to face, Crawford was shaking like a leaf and "obviously rattled"?

The champion has been making a lot of outrageous charges, mostly accusing TR of stacking the deck against him.

This suggestion that the favored Crawford is practically scared to death, might be the most ludicrous.

[diddy]

I’m astonished at how many people are betting on Horn. This isn’t Australia. This line opened at -1200 at my book and is now all the down to -490. I wasn’t going to bet at the ludicrous odds but it’s now been knocked down enough where I can actually make $400 on it and not even have to stake more than $2000. I normally NEVER lay this kind of juice in a straight bet but this is Terrence Crawford we are talking about here. The man is a beast. He’s going to pick Horn off all night.

[SenorPipino]

I’m astonished at how many people are betting on Horn. This isn’t Australia. This line opened at -1200 at my book and is now all the down to -490. I wasn’t going to bet at the ludicrous odds but it’s now been knocked down enough where I can actually make $500 on it and not even have to stake more than $2000. I normally NEVER lay this kind of juice in a straight bet but this is Terrence Crawford we are talking about here. The man is a beast. He’s going to pick Horn off all night.

I was going to mention that.

The line I saw this morning has Crawford a -500 favorite. Yesterday he was -800.

About a week ago the line was stuck at -1200 for about a month.

It's not unusual for late money to come in on a heavy underdog. But this much on the fairly ordinary Horn doesn't make sense.

Casual fans who are laying money down might be impressed that Horn is the naturally bigger man and holds a decision win over Pacquiao.

Neither will mean anything tonight.

Another tasty offering is Crawford -175 to win by KO.

It's almost like stealing.

[diddy]

All I can assume is alot of Aussies backing Horn, and casual idiots that just think "oh he beat Pacquaio", who is 1 of the only 2 fighters they even know exist. Terrence Crawford isnt losing to anyone except maybe Errol Spence or Keith Thurman. He's too good.

[SenorPipino]

I jumped on the prop bet of Crawford by KO at -175.

The line is too low and money will start swinging back on Crawford--who definitely beats Keith "Once in a Blue Moon" Thurman.

At this point the still improving Spence is the only welter who can lick Crawford. Comparable skills but the natural size and strength advantage for Spence gives him an edge.

[ValMar]

Horn is B+ WW, nothing more. He "defeated" old and shot Pacquiao, because the referee permited him to play "a very dirty game" and the judges gave him the "hometown decision". That's it. He has no chance against Crawford (the genuine champion in his prime). The end.................

[diddy]

Jermell is twice as big a favorite against Trout than Crawford is against Horn? IMO those lines should be reversed. Crawford should be -1100 and Charlo should be -500. Jermall had a very tough time with Trout and barely won that fight. Hurd was in a battle with Trout until the size advantage was too much late. I think Jermell will win but I absolutely give Trout a better than 1 in 11 chance to win. This is a very dangerous fight for Charlo. A no win situation. If he wins he is supposed to, if he loses it makes him look very bad. And he could lose, it wouldnt shock me.

[SenorPipino]

Jermell is twice as big a favorite against Trout than Crawford is against Horn? IMO those lines should be reversed. Crawford should be -1100 and Charlo should be -500. Jermall had a very tough time with Trout and barely won that fight. Hurd was in a battle with Trout until the size advantage was too much late. I think Jermell will win but I absolutely give Trout a better than 1 in 11 chance to win. This is a very dangerous fight for Charlo. A no win situation. If he wins he is supposed to, if he loses it makes him look very bad. And he could lose, it wouldnt shock me.

I think the lopsided odds reflect A) the growing awareness of the talents of the Charlo brothers (even if casuals are clueless as to which brother is which) and B) Trout's inability to defeat name opponents since toppling Cotto.

The Charlos are hot. And Trout is a guy who is maybe a B+ fighter these days and simply unable to break into the top tier.

I expect a competitive fight with Charlo eventually taking control and probably stopping Trout late.

[diddy]

Will be interesting to see if Jermell can do something Jermall couldn’t. Stop Trout. The only guy to do it was basically a light heavyweight in the ring and leaned on him for 10 rounds. Even then Trout didn’t go down. His corner pulled him out.

[SFW]

Byrd is the referee for this fight correct? He had no problems injerjecting on superstar McNugget so shouldn't have a problem setting Horn straight about the fouling. That's the only way this guy has any success, capitalizing on permitted fouls and the time that damage allows.

[SenorPipino]

Will be interesting to see if Jermell can do something Jermall couldn’t. Stop Trout. The only guy to do it was basically a light heavyweight in the ring and leaned on him for 10 rounds. Even then Trout didn’t go down. His corner pulled him out.

At 32, Trout may go into a quick decline.

He's been in there with a lot of top fighters and has taken his share of shots.

It might begin to have an effect. And the punishment from Hurd certainly didn't help the wear and tear already on his body.

Somewhat like Lara finally wearing out against Hurd, the same could be in the cards for Trout tonight against Charlo.