Canelo Álvarez vs. Daniel Jacobs - September 15, 2018?

[Ruthless-RKO]

De La Hoya: Canelo-Jacobs Deal in Play

Canelo Alvarez’s promoter told ESPN.com on Tuesday night that he has abandoned hope of salvaging an Alvarez-Golovkin middleweight championship rematch for September 15. Instead, Golden Boy Promotions president Eric Gomez has sent a formal offer to Daniel Jacobs’ promoter, Eddie Hearn, for an Alvarez-Jacobs fight that night.

De La Hoya said he turned to Jacobs because Golovkin won’t back off of his demand of a 50-50 purse split with Alvarez.

“So there’s a deal on the table for Daniel Jacobs to fight September 15 against Canelo,” De La Hoya said. “Eddie loves the idea. He loves the fight. Daniel Jacobs loves the fight and we love the fight as well. So we’re just moving forward and making sure that Canelo has the toughest dance partner possible for September 15.”

“We were willing to budge, but now I’m fed up with this and I’ve decided to move on. So we’re talking to Eddie Hearn about Jacobs. Let’s make the best deal possible. The deal is on the table for Daniel Jacobs and hopefully we can get it signed sooner than later, so we can start promoting the fight.”

[Ruthless-RKO]

If no GGG rematch, then this will more than do. DLH has said they've already contacted Hearn and they already have a good working relationship.

I remember after GGG-Jacobs, many on here believed Jacobs would be too much for Canelo, what maybe with his size and all that, but his last 2 outings haven't proved anyone's point IMO.

In a fair judging bout, I take Canelo to beat Jacobs around 117-111. He will be cautious, but he'll do it.

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If no GGG rematch, then this will more than do.

I prefer this to the GGG rematch.

Canelo/GBP have been dicking Golovkin around ever since he fought Cotto for the WBC strap. Refusal to take his mandatory, Caneloweight, 'not fúcking around' then still not taking the fight after mouthing off, keeping Golovkin out of the ring by refusing to let him fight Saunders a full 3 months before the proposed first bout, dodgy decisions (meaning Don Trella, not just the oft unreliable Adalaide Byrd), failed drug tests leading to loss of earnings, refusal to compensate for said losses... anything else?

Golovkin isn't getting any younger. He needs to be in the ring fighting, not crawling through neverending negotiations. We all know who won the first fight anyway.

Since none of the money will end up in my pocket, I'd much rather see Canelo vs Jacobs, and Golovkin vs Saunders, or his mandatories. That other saga has gone on long enough.

[Mexi-Box]

Great fight, honestly. Seeing Jacobs' last fight, I give Canelo a huge chance. Easily, I'd even say he should be a slight favorite because of the scorecards.

Jacobs and Golovkin had a razor close fight, so Canelo beating Jacobs would be huge.

[Ruthless-RKO]

If no GGG rematch, then this will more than do.

I prefer this to the GGG rematch.

Golovkin isn't getting any younger. He needs to be in the ring fighting, not crawling through neverending negotiations. We all know who won the first fight anyway.

Since none of the money will end up in my pocket, I'd much rather see Canelo vs Jacobs, and Golovkin vs Saunders, or his mandatories. That other saga has gone on long enough.

ODLH has said GGG will be missing out on a big payday, well TBH, so will Canelo. Canelo got a 70-30 split vs. GGG. Got paid a good amount. This fight never does 1 million buys, never mind 1.3m.

I reckon it does between 500k-700k.. Will certainly be at the T-Mobile.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Great fight, honestly. Seeing Jacobs' last fight, I give Canelo a huge chance. Easily, I'd even say he should be a slight favorite because of the scorecards.

Jacobs and Golovkin had a razor close fight, so Canelo beating Jacobs would be huge.

I dount Jacobs will have that size advantage. Canelo will put the weight on too.

[Mexi-Box]

Great fight, honestly. Seeing Jacobs' last fight, I give Canelo a huge chance. Easily, I'd even say he should be a slight favorite because of the scorecards.

Jacobs and Golovkin had a razor close fight, so Canelo beating Jacobs would be huge.

I dount Jacobs will have that size advantage. Canelo will put the weight on too.

The height will be massive, though. Jacobs is like 6' 0" and humongous. Canelo is likely 5' 7"-5' 8", at most.

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If no GGG rematch, then this will more than do.

I prefer this to the GGG rematch.

Golovkin isn't getting any younger. He needs to be in the ring fighting, not crawling through neverending negotiations. We all know who won the first fight anyway.

Since none of the money will end up in my pocket, I'd much rather see Canelo vs Jacobs, and Golovkin vs Saunders, or his mandatories. That other saga has gone on long enough.

ODLH has said GGG will be missing out on a big payday, well TBH, so will Canelo. Canelo got a 70-30 split vs. GGG. Got paid a good amount. This fight never does 1 million buys, never mind 1.3m.

I reckon it does between 500k-700k.. Will certainly be at the T-Mobile.

Oh, this fight certainly makes less money. I'd be surprised if Canelo makes half what he would have done for a GGG rematch. I just don't care much about the financials.

It's not like anyone at this level is getting paid peanuts. In the grand scheme of things, these are all very rich people.

A Saunders fight means more to Golovkin's legacy. A Jacobs fight, for Canelo, hasn't been heavily tainted by other goings on. Both are fresh and exciting. The only thing Canelo vs GGG 2 would have told us is whether or not Golovkin has aged significantly, and does lightning strike twice in Vegas.

[Enlightened-One]

I’d love to see a bout between Canelo and Jacobs! This is a great fight!

Does Team GGG not realise that the their refusal to budge on their 50-50 purse split demands inevitably results in delays to the Canelo rematch, which also works against Gennady as it gives the Mexican a better chance of victory, because the Kazakh isn’t getting any younger?

[Ruthless-RKO]

I’d love to see a bout between Canelo and Jacobs! This is a great fight!

Does Team GGG not realise that the their refusal to budge on their 50-50 purse split demands inevitably results in delays to the Canelo rematch, which also works against Gennady as it gives the Mexican a better chance of victory, because the Kazakh isn’t getting any younger?

That's a question for Team GGG to answer.

[SenorPipino]

If no GGG rematch, then this will more than do.

I prefer this to the GGG rematch.

Golovkin isn't getting any younger. He needs to be in the ring fighting, not crawling through neverending negotiations. We all know who won the first fight anyway.

Since none of the money will end up in my pocket, I'd much rather see Canelo vs Jacobs, and Golovkin vs Saunders, or his mandatories. That other saga has gone on long enough.

ODLH has said GGG will be missing out on a big payday, well TBH, so will Canelo. Canelo got a 70-30 split vs. GGG. Got paid a good amount. This fight never does 1 million buys, never mind 1.3m.

I reckon it does between 500k-700k.. Will certainly be at the T-Mobile.

It might not be a Golovkin sized payday, but it should be sizeable nevertheless.

Assuming the fight actually happens (I'd say Canelo-Golovkin negotiations still have about a 2 week window) then the 500k to 700k figure you suggest, is still 4 or 5 times more than Golovkin vs Jacobs attracted.

That number was a dismal 170,000.

I'd put the number on the higher side, since it will take place during the traditional Mexican Independence Day weekend, where fights usually do well.

Golovkin was guaranteed $2.5 million for the Jacobs fight plus PPV upside, which couldn't have been much more due to the low buy rate.

Canelo should more than double that. Maybe triple. The PPV numbers will be much higher as will the guarantee undoubtedly.

When it's all totaled Canelo would haul in well over $10 million, maybe closer to $15 million.

[Heretic]

Good match if it happens.

Jacobs did better against GGG than Canelo. Quite evenly matched fight.

Jacobs needs KO to win in Vegas. I don't think hes going to get one so I predict Canelo by points. Officially. In real life Jacobs is going to get jobbed

Team Canelo is going for surprisingly good opponent. I was expecting to see something like Khan 2

Well I will be happy to be wrong if this fight happens

[Enlightened-One]

To be fair, if you review the fighters listed in the top-ten divisional middleweight rankings of The RING and ESPN, there aren’t that many fighters that has ties with HBO and is available for Canelo to face:

• Even though Gennady Golovkin is a fellow HBO stablemate of Canelo’s, the Kazakh wants a 50-50 purse split, which neither GBP nor Alvarez are willing to concede
• Sergiy Derevyanchenko & Jermall Charlo are both with Haymon/Showtime and are GGG’s mandatories
• Ryota Murata is with Top Rank/ESPN
• David Lemieux and I think Demetrius Andrade are both available to fight on HBO, but I feel that HBO isn’t interested in ‘Boo Boo’ and the Canadian has no credibility
• Gary O’Sullivan still remains a possibility, as he’s with GBP, but his credibility is lacking, since he hasn’t beaten anyone of note and he has also suffered bad defeats to Saunders and Eubank Jr.
• Hassan N’Dam was KO’d during his most recent outing
• Billy Joe Saunders is technically “injured” and he’d be expensive. Eric Gomez has already said that GBP is not interested in matching Canelo against the Lara-like Saunders

To be fair though, I’m a tad surprised that GBP selected Jacobs, because Danny is capable of raising his game and scoring the victory in this fight, but I guess that they have to go with an opponent sanctioned by HBO.

[DrDuke]

I remember after GGG-Jacobs, many on here believed Jacobs would be too much for Canelo, what maybe with his size and all that, but his last 2 outings haven't proved anyone's point IMO.

In a fair judging bout, I take Canelo to beat Jacobs around 117-111. He will be cautious, but he'll do it.

Sounds right, but, I guess, a fair score should be closer and with common judging of Canelo fights it sould be about 117-111.

[boxing_rocks]

Jacobs would outbox Canelo, but I doubt that he would get a decision in Vegas.

If Canelo stays off his juices, much bigger Jacobs can stop him.