At this stage ... doubts about Terence Crawford ?

[ValMar]

By the way. Why did this thread become a "guys from the past that could beat Crawford" thread anyway?

As it stands right now I think the only threat to him at Welterweight is Spence. I'd favor him over everybody else confidently.

I expect to see Spence at LMW soon, he looks too big for WW. It might be only my personal feeling, but I don't believe he will face Crawford at WW.

I don't either. Not because either of them are afraid of each other either. It's just they have promoters that basically wouldn't work with each other for anything other than an unbelievably profitable megafight.

Again, yes !

[SenorPipino]

Aussie fighters are solidly lined up in Horn's corner for Saturday night's fight.

Jeff Fenech, Danny Green, Barry Michael and Anthony Mundine all predict that Horn will shake up the world and even knock Crawford out.

But possibly setting up an alibi, the Aussies caution that Horn will win as long as he gets "a fair shake" from American officials.

They're apparently worried that not only will the judges side with the American Crawford (for the record, the 3 judges are from the US, Australia and Italy) but that the referee (Robert Byrd) won't allow Horn to fight aggressively on the inside and will allow Crawford to hold and nullify the champion's attack.

Horn himself has suddenly begun describing himself as a "pawn in boxing's politics" and feels like an "outsider" and not the champion.

The Horn camp has complained that Crawford's name has been positioned first on the fight posters, and that Arum is working to ensure a Crawford victory since Horn is a free agent after the fight.

In the end, it doesn't figure to matter. Crawford will give Horn a one-sided shellacking and it will be difficult to dispute the outcome.

If it somehow goes to the scorecards, expect a deserved near shutout win for the challenger.

And Horn will have little choice but to agree with the one-sided outcome, saying something like "I thought I was good. but Crawford is from a completely different planet."

[SFW]

People tend to forget, the few rounds Horn actually earned against Pacquiao the only good work after the first round was sandwiched between head butts, low blows, and rabbit punches suprised he didn't hit him with the stool or throw a knee like Chino. Guy was dirty as fornicate, could have been DQ'd. Crawford will not allow any of that shit, nor will he have to pace himself like Senator Pacquiao did. I think Horn is in for a frightful beating, again, but he's taking a nap this time.

[diddy]

Aussies are backing Horn. Color me shocked.

[SenorPipino]

Aussies are backing Horn. Color me shocked.

Apparently they have no concerns about credibility.

[gilgamesh]

Aussies are backing Horn. Color me shocked.

I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people that believe Horn deserved the nod over Pac are Aussie.

Patriotism, and support of your countrymen blinds people more often in most nations.

That's one positive about America. People here don't really give a sh*t where you're from, they just kinda call it objectively, and want to see exciting fights.

Everyone else wants to root for their hometown boy. Not that there's anything wrong with that mind you. It's just a cultural difference that you notice.

[SenorPipino]

Aussies are backing Horn. Color me shocked.

I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people that believe Horn deserved the nod over Pac are Aussie.

Patriotism, and support of your countrymen blinds people more often in most nations.

That's one positive about America. People here don't really give a sh*t where you're from, they just kinda call it objectively, and want to see exciting fights.

Everyone else wants to root for their hometown boy. Not that there's anything wrong with that mind you. It's just a cultural difference that you notice.

In smaller countries, world champion athletes are national heroes. Icons to the masses.

Their victories reflect positively on the country's strength. Their defeats are nationals days of mourning.

Naturally their performances are viewed through sharply tinted lenses.

In the US, who is Terrance Crawford?

Just a fighter whose name is familiar to less than 1% of the population. His face is familiar to even far fewer.

Few in America care if Crawford wins or loses Saturday. The country's status as a superpower is not at stake.

But in Australia, the world will be on hold early Sunday morning.

A Horn win will shut down the country in celebration for a week.

A defeat figures to send them scurrying to the Carlton Draught for the same period of time.

[gilgamesh]

Aussies are backing Horn. Color me shocked.

I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people that believe Horn deserved the nod over Pac are Aussie.

Patriotism, and support of your countrymen blinds people more often in most nations.

That's one positive about America. People here don't really give a sh*t where you're from, they just kinda call it objectively, and want to see exciting fights.

Everyone else wants to root for their hometown boy. Not that there's anything wrong with that mind you. It's just a cultural difference that you notice.

In smaller countries, world champion athletes are national heroes. Icons to the masses.

Their victories reflect positively on the country's strength. Their defeats are nationals days of mourning.

Naturally their performances are viewed through sharply tinted lenses.

In the US, who is Terrance Crawford?

Just a fighter whose name is familiar to less than 1% of the population. His face is familiar to even far fewer.

Few in America care if Crawford wins or loses Saturday. The country's status as a superpower is not at stake.

But in Australia, the world will be on hold early Sunday morning.

A Horn win will shut down the country in celebration for a week.

A defeat figures to send them scurrying to the Carlton Draught for the same period of time.

Yep. Just one of them things.

That's a good point that America has had so many sporting Champions and Elite Athletes that another great boxer isn't really attention grabbing stuff to them.

America, and Americans have kinda taken their status as a superpower for granted at this point.

[KiwiRider]

The future past this fight seems predestined for Crawford. It's Horn's last fight under Arum, so no determined future for him.
I'd love Horn to win, just to see the look on Arum's face. How to explain to the backers who have invested in Crawford's future and TV coverage.
Everyone is looking at this fight as a done deal. Crawford beats Horn, takes the belt and moves on.
I love an upset, so I will suck down the NZ/Aussie rivalry and cheer on Horn...

[Best Coast]

Other than Terence Crawford moving up to Welterweight 147 what are his weaknesses in term of style ?
There have been rumblings of a potential upset.

Rumblings of an upset?

Only from Aussie scribes and homers. Jeff Horn is a crude brawler with dirty tactics who didnt deserve the decision over Pacman. Most of the top welters > (Spence, Thurman, Crawford, Pacman in a rematch, Garcia) would expose Horn for the limited fighter he is. Horn has only the most remote of punchers' chances and the only serious question is whether Crawford stops him in the late rounds or wins a wide decision.

[gilgamesh]

Other than Terence Crawford moving up to Welterweight 147 what are his weaknesses in term of style ?
There have been rumblings of a potential upset.

Rumblings of an upset?

Only from Aussie scribes and homers. Jeff Horn is a crude brawler with dirty tactics who didnt deserve the decision over Pacman. Most of the top welters > (Spence, Thurman, Crawford, Pacman in a rematch, Garcia) would expose Horn for the limited fighter he is. Horn has only the most remote of punchers' chances and the only serious question is whether Crawford stops him in the late rounds or wins a wide decision.

Hey, hey, hey that's not fair...Crawford might stop him in the early to mid rounds too

[Best Coast]

Other than Terence Crawford moving up to Welterweight 147 what are his weaknesses in term of style ?
There have been rumblings of a potential upset.

Rumblings of an upset?

Only from Aussie scribes and homers. Jeff Horn is a crude brawler with dirty tactics who didnt deserve the decision over Pacman. Most of the top welters > (Spence, Thurman, Crawford, Pacman in a rematch, Garcia) would expose Horn for the limited fighter he is. Horn has only the most remote of punchers' chances and the only serious question is whether Crawford stops him in the late rounds or wins a wide decision.

Hey, hey, hey that's not fair...Crawford might stop him in the early to mid rounds too

OK...my bad!!