Anthony Small is Cleared of Encouraging Terrorism

[danconnollyeire]

The state do lock people up without trial. Fact.

Just because you say ‘fact’ doesn’t make it a fact

[danconnollyeire]

My main problem is....is if Robinson never highlighted the case would we have even heard about it in the national media. Was something like 39 men involved in some sort of grooming gang. That should be front page news regardless of race or religion.

We deserve to know what's going on in our own country. I think its stupid for people to blame Robinson. He maybe has broke laws...but they,d never have been broken if the people in power we,re doing their job. Its a case of we,re ignoring the problem and if someone wants to point it out...we,ll put them in jail/silence them. And then you,ve got people saying Robinson's been an idiot again...we don't want to know about the problem. That's basically what it is. The problems won't go away by covering them up. Its like they,ve learnt nothing from the Rotherham scandal.

I don't think their was a jury when he got arrested...pretty sure it was sentencing day. The jury was at the first one he was arrested for that led to the suspended sentence. I don't think its a case of perjurating a case more a case of he,s gonna let the cat out the bag....quick let's silence him. He broke the law tho...I still think the bigger picture is why is tommy Robinson bringing these cases to the forefront. And why is the national media not.

Wrong;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherh ... on_scandal

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... e-42003948

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inde ... html%3famp

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thes ... on-mp/amp/

http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/proje ... index.html

There are 100s of stories about it in the national media and rightly so, it’s disgusting. Just about every major news outlet has reported it

Andrew Norfolk of The Times first wrote about localised grooming in 2003. This is a boxing forum so I come on here for boxing updates mainly, there’s enough forums to discuss politics and current events but I notice a lot how people think that if they keep repeating things and say ‘fact’, then it becomes a fact...

Robinson wasn’t the first to discuss this. The Times were, who are one of the leading national newspapers; in 2003, way before TR came on to the scene. So, it’s a lie, believed only by those close to TR. Yes, it was covered up but it wasn’t TR who made this a story...

[mickey1975]

The state do lock people up without trial. Fact.

Just because you say ‘fact’ doesn’t make it a fact

No, but the fact my brother is a senior officer in a maximum security prison who tells me what goes on does.

[brilo33]

Tommy Robinson did not change. He has gotten more and more supporters. By people seeing there being lied too by the government .there is no way a British jury would of sent a man down for exposing pedos. And if they did that is the real story

[Tuan_Jim]

My main problem is....is if Robinson never highlighted the case would we have even heard about it in the national media. Was something like 39 men involved in some sort of grooming gang. That should be front page news regardless of race or religion.

We deserve to know what's going on in our own country. I think its stupid for people to blame Robinson. He maybe has broke laws...but they,d never have been broken if the people in power we,re doing their job. Its a case of we,re ignoring the problem and if someone wants to point it out...we,ll put them in jail/silence them. And then you,ve got people saying Robinson's been an idiot again...we don't want to know about the problem. That's basically what it is. The problems won't go away by covering them up. Its like they,ve learnt nothing from the Rotherham scandal.

I don't think their was a jury when he got arrested...pretty sure it was sentencing day. The jury was at the first one he was arrested for that led to the suspended sentence. I don't think its a case of perjurating a case more a case of he,s gonna let the cat out the bag....quick let's silence him. He broke the law tho...I still think the bigger picture is why is tommy Robinson bringing these cases to the forefront. And why is the national media not.

Tommy was trying to tell the public what was being done to girls back in 2010, 2011--the police went through his affairs with a fine tooth comb, discovered some mortage application irregularity and promptly locked him up, where muslim inmates nearly killed him.

The gangs he drew attention to continued to rape with impunity.

What happened to Sarah Champion? What heinous thing did she say exactly?

Still people on this thread--delusional, in denial, uninformed?--think that nothing is going on.

[brilo33]

hate being political but he was lying about jury sent him down

read it says judge
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ondon.html

quote from the mail

"He was arrested, brought before a judge, and sentenced within five hours. The judge ordered a media ban on his arrest and imprisonment, even forcing British publications to delete their articles about the case."

[bbjc]

My main problem is....is if Robinson never highlighted the case would we have even heard about it in the national media. Was something like 39 men involved in some sort of grooming gang. That should be front page news regardless of race or religion.

We deserve to know what's going on in our own country. I think its stupid for people to blame Robinson. He maybe has broke laws...but they,d never have been broken if the people in power we,re doing their job. Its a case of we,re ignoring the problem and if someone wants to point it out...we,ll put them in jail/silence them. And then you,ve got people saying Robinson's been an idiot again...we don't want to know about the problem. That's basically what it is. The problems won't go away by covering them up. Its like they,ve learnt nothing from the Rotherham scandal.

I don't think their was a jury when he got arrested...pretty sure it was sentencing day. The jury was at the first one he was arrested for that led to the suspended sentence. I don't think its a case of perjurating a case more a case of he,s gonna let the cat out the bag....quick let's silence him. He broke the law tho...I still think the bigger picture is why is tommy Robinson bringing these cases to the forefront. And why is the national media not.

Wrong;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherh ... on_scandal

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... e-42003948

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inde ... html%3famp

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thes ... on-mp/amp/

http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/proje ... index.html

There are 100s of stories about it in the national media and rightly so, it’s disgusting. Just about every major news outlet has reported it

Andrew Norfolk of The Times first wrote about localised grooming in 2003. This is a boxing forum so I come on here for boxing updates mainly, there’s enough forums to discuss politics and current events but I notice a lot how people think that if they keep repeating things and say ‘fact’, then it becomes a fact...

Robinson wasn’t the first to discuss this. The Times were, who are one of the leading national newspapers; in 2003, way before TR came on to the scene. So, it’s a lie, believed only by those close to TR. Yes, it was covered up but it wasn’t TR who made this a story...

Sorry mate I meant the case he was covering that led to him getting jailed. Obviously the case was ongoing so we,re not to know if it would have been heavily publicized or not. But that for me should be front page news. Regardless of race or religion.

39 men involved in organised grooming of children...has to be publicised...not just publicized but front page news.

[brilo33]

our country has lost its community , they showed the jamie bulger trial on tv couple of months ago, there was mobs of at least 100 waiting for the sweat box , attacking it , no cares any more and if they do off too prison

[bbjc]

My main problem is....is if Robinson never highlighted the case would we have even heard about it in the national media. Was something like 39 men involved in some sort of grooming gang. That should be front page news regardless of race or religion.

We deserve to know what's going on in our own country. I think its stupid for people to blame Robinson. He maybe has broke laws...but they,d never have been broken if the people in power we,re doing their job. Its a case of we,re ignoring the problem and if someone wants to point it out...we,ll put them in jail/silence them. And then you,ve got people saying Robinson's been an idiot again...we don't want to know about the problem. That's basically what it is. The problems won't go away by covering them up. Its like they,ve learnt nothing from the Rotherham scandal.

I don't think their was a jury when he got arrested...pretty sure it was sentencing day. The jury was at the first one he was arrested for that led to the suspended sentence. I don't think its a case of perjurating a case more a case of he,s gonna let the cat out the bag....quick let's silence him. He broke the law tho...I still think the bigger picture is why is tommy Robinson bringing these cases to the forefront. And why is the national media not.

Tommy was trying to tell the public what was being done to girls back in 2010, 2011--the police went through his affairs with a fine tooth comb, discovered some mortage application irregularity and promptly locked him up, where muslim inmates nearly killed him.

The gangs he drew attention to continued to rape with impunity.

What happened to Sarah Champion? What heinous thing did she say exactly?

Still people on this thread--delusional, in denial, uninformed?--think that nothing is going on.

I m in full agreement with you mate. Think I worded my post wrong. For me anyway Tommy's just publicizing a problem the people in power won't.

As long as its allowed to be covered up the longer the problem will continue.

[Tuan_Jim]

My main problem is....is if Robinson never highlighted the case would we have even heard about it in the national media. Was something like 39 men involved in some sort of grooming gang. That should be front page news regardless of race or religion.

We deserve to know what's going on in our own country. I think its stupid for people to blame Robinson. He maybe has broke laws...but they,d never have been broken if the people in power we,re doing their job. Its a case of we,re ignoring the problem and if someone wants to point it out...we,ll put them in jail/silence them. And then you,ve got people saying Robinson's been an idiot again...we don't want to know about the problem. That's basically what it is. The problems won't go away by covering them up. Its like they,ve learnt nothing from the Rotherham scandal.

I don't think their was a jury when he got arrested...pretty sure it was sentencing day. The jury was at the first one he was arrested for that led to the suspended sentence. I don't think its a case of perjurating a case more a case of he,s gonna let the cat out the bag....quick let's silence him. He broke the law tho...I still think the bigger picture is why is tommy Robinson bringing these cases to the forefront. And why is the national media not.

Tommy was trying to tell the public what was being done to girls back in 2010, 2011--the police went through his affairs with a fine tooth comb, discovered some mortage application irregularity and promptly locked him up, where muslim inmates nearly killed him.

The gangs he drew attention to continued to rape with impunity.

What happened to Sarah Champion? What heinous thing did she say exactly?

Still people on this thread--delusional, in denial, uninformed?--think that nothing is going on.

I m in full agreement with you mate. Think I worded my post wrong. For me anyway Tommy's just publicizing a problem the people in power won't.

As long as its allowed to be covered up the longer the problem will continue.

Yeah I agree with you too--was just expanding on some points. It's all v. sinister.

[TheCobra]

our country has lost its community , they showed the jamie bulger trial on tv couple of months ago, there was mobs of at least 100 waiting for the sweat box , attacking it , no cares any more and if they do off too prison

I'll agree with that mate. Loss of community is defo one of the problems we have in this country, we don't stick up for each other and we leave all the problems for the police/government/someone else to sort out.

But then it's also been created that way by the government, media and police, they've disempowered people so they can't take action e.g. people scared to fight back a robber or whoever in case they get the justice system turned round on them.

It is a very sinister plot to disempower people and create learned helplessness amongst the general population. Hence when someone like Tommy Robinson stands up and does it how it used to be done, there's some level of surprise/uproar by the learned helpless lefties, "He's a knob head" "He deserved it cos he broke the law" etc, these people don't read between the lines at all about what's really going on here.

[brilo33]

our country has lost its community , they showed the jamie bulger trial on tv couple of months ago, there was mobs of at least 100 waiting for the sweat box , attacking it , no cares any more and if they do off too prison

I'll agree with that mate. Loss of community is defo one of the problems we have in this country, we don't stick up for each other and we leave all the problems for the police/government/someone else to sort out.

But then it's also been created that way by the government, media and police, they've disempowered people so they can't take action e.g. people scared to fight back a robber or whoever in case they get the justice system turned round on them.

It is a very sinister plot to disempower people and create learned helplessness amongst the general population. Hence when someone like Tommy Robinson stands up and does it how it used to be done, there's some level of surprise/uproar by the learned helpless lefties, "He's a knob head" "He deserved it cos he broke the law" etc, these people don't read between the lines at all about what's really going on here.

totally look at that old geezer who deafened his house and killed the robber in his gaff ,the old bill let the other family intimidate them stick flowers up, disgusting
people are waking up,

[Covfefe]

The state do lock people up without trial. Fact.

Just because you say ‘fact’ doesn’t make it a fact

No, but the fact my brother is a senior officer in a maximum security prison who tells me what goes on does.

And who have the state locked up without trial?

[Covfefe]

hate being political but he was lying about jury sent him down

read it says judge
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ondon.html

quote from the mail

"He was arrested, brought before a judge, and sentenced within five hours. The judge ordered a media ban on his arrest and imprisonment, even forcing British publications to delete their articles about the case."

Why would there be a jury? He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of court, which he then did again and pleaded guilty. There would be no jury under such circumstances. Contempt of court is always dealt with by the judge there and then.

[josco]

Wow - what a thread! I nearly forgot Tyson’s amazing comeback! I for one had no idea what Mr Robinson was trying to bring to the notice of the public and I am grateful to the posters on here for putting me in the picture.

[brilo33]

hate being political but he was lying about jury sent him down

read it says judge
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ondon.html

quote from the mail

"He was arrested, brought before a judge, and sentenced within five hours. The judge ordered a media ban on his arrest and imprisonment, even forcing British publications to delete their articles about the case."

Why would there be a jury? He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of court, which he then did again and pleaded guilty. There would be no jury under such circumstances. Contempt of court is always dealt with by the judge there and then.

yeah i know that is what i was saying

[Covfefe]

hate being political but he was lying about jury sent him down

read it says judge
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ondon.html

quote from the mail

"He was arrested, brought before a judge, and sentenced within five hours. The judge ordered a media ban on his arrest and imprisonment, even forcing British publications to delete their articles about the case."

Why would there be a jury? He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of court, which he then did again and pleaded guilty. There would be no jury under such circumstances. Contempt of court is always dealt with by the judge there and then.

yeah i know that is what i was saying

Ah sorry, misunderstood your post.

[bbjc]

Tommy was trying to tell the public what was being done to girls back in 2010, 2011--the police went through his affairs with a fine tooth comb, discovered some mortage application irregularity and promptly locked him up, where muslim inmates nearly killed him.

The gangs he drew attention to continued to rape with impunity.

What happened to Sarah Champion? What heinous thing did she say exactly?

Still people on this thread--delusional, in denial, uninformed?--think that nothing is going on.

I m in full agreement with you mate. Think I worded my post wrong. For me anyway Tommy's just publicizing a problem the people in power won't.

As long as its allowed to be covered up the longer the problem will continue.

Yeah I agree with you too--was just expanding on some points. It's all v. sinister.

Honestly can't get my head around it mate. People having a problem with it because its on a boxing forum. It should be a problem for every single person weather its a boxing forum or not. I don't have kids yet...but even still I can't get my head round why no ones prepared to take action of any kind. By that I don't mean violence against muslims....but a strict policy of what we don't accept here in the UK.

That's just common sense. Its about time the powers that be...stop being racist and start bringing these people to justice regardless of race or religion. Stop making race of religion a difference. Sad to see but tommy Robinson has shown every single person in a position of power up so far. All I,ve seen is every single one of them bypassing the issue to keep themselves in a job. Really sad to see.

[Covfefe]

I m in full agreement with you mate. Think I worded my post wrong. For me anyway Tommy's just publicizing a problem the people in power won't.

As long as its allowed to be covered up the longer the problem will continue.

Yeah I agree with you too--was just expanding on some points. It's all v. sinister.

Honestly can't get my head around it mate. People having a problem with it because its on a boxing forum. It should be a problem for every single person weather its a boxing forum or not. I don't have kids yet...but even still I can't get my head round why no ones prepared to take action of any kind. By that I don't mean violence against muslims....but a strict policy of what we don't accept here in the UK.

That's just common sense. Its about time the powers that be...stop being racist and start bringing these people to justice regardless of race or religion. Stop making race of religion a difference. Sad to see but tommy Robinson has shown every single person in a position of power up so far. All I,ve seen is every single one of them bypassing the issue to keep themselves in a job. Really sad to see.

What do you mean a strict policy? It’s already a very strict law, quite a clear law. And those 39 had been caught and were being tried. The police and authorities do need to have a look at themselves about how all this has played out, they’ve seriously failed some young girls. But I don’t think the laws could get any stricter about it.

[bbjc]

Yeah I agree with you too--was just expanding on some points. It's all v. sinister.

Honestly can't get my head around it mate. People having a problem with it because its on a boxing forum. It should be a problem for every single person weather its a boxing forum or not. I don't have kids yet...but even still I can't get my head round why no ones prepared to take action of any kind. By that I don't mean violence against muslims....but a strict policy of what we don't accept here in the UK.

That's just common sense. Its about time the powers that be...stop being racist and start bringing these people to justice regardless of race or religion. Stop making race of religion a difference. Sad to see but tommy Robinson has shown every single person in a position of power up so far. All I,ve seen is every single one of them bypassing the issue to keep themselves in a job. Really sad to see.

What do you mean a strict policy? It’s already a very strict law, quite a clear law. And those 39 had been caught and were being tried. The police and authorities do need to have a look at themselves about how all this has played out, they’ve seriously failed some young girls. But I don’t think the laws could get any stricter about it.

These laws need to be enforced. I mind hearing Robinson rant after the Rotherham scandal broke...that it was happening up and down the country. Your sitting thinking yeah right tommy. Its starting to appear he could be right tho.

To me if you,ve got people like that on the streets theirs a problem somewhere with the law if they can't bring them to justice. They got the 39 but how many others are doing the same thing up and down the country. The powers that be never mess around with fraudsters but when its grooming. Paedos etc for some reason the perpetrators are treated with kid gloves. If the laws stopping them bringing these people to justice...its needing changed pronto.

You don't need twenty different pieces of evidence to convict them. Should be a case of we know its going on.....your going to jail. They didn't really mess about with Robinson was in jail for teatime.

We go on about having the best justice system in the world. But if you,ve got grooming gangs....or even gangsters drug gangs shooting the place up out doing as they please,...its not much good to anyone. Stop wasting tax payers money. If police believe your up to no good....straight to jail. Some of these people don't deserve trials.

Massive call....but I,d rather not have any more kids or on a seperate problem innocent victims shot. Appears criminals nowadays are running amok with the best justice system in the world.

[Covfefe]

Honestly can't get my head around it mate. People having a problem with it because its on a boxing forum. It should be a problem for every single person weather its a boxing forum or not. I don't have kids yet...but even still I can't get my head round why no ones prepared to take action of any kind. By that I don't mean violence against muslims....but a strict policy of what we don't accept here in the UK.

That's just common sense. Its about time the powers that be...stop being racist and start bringing these people to justice regardless of race or religion. Stop making race of religion a difference. Sad to see but tommy Robinson has shown every single person in a position of power up so far. All I,ve seen is every single one of them bypassing the issue to keep themselves in a job. Really sad to see.

What do you mean a strict policy? It’s already a very strict law, quite a clear law. And those 39 had been caught and were being tried. The police and authorities do need to have a look at themselves about how all this has played out, they’ve seriously failed some young girls. But I don’t think the laws could get any stricter about it.

These laws need to be enforced. I mind hearing Robinson rant after the Rotherham scandal broke...that it was happening up and down the country. Your sitting thinking yeah right tommy. Its starting to appear he could be right tho.

To me if you,ve got people like that on the streets theirs a problem somewhere with the law if they can't bring them to justice. They got the 39 but how many others are doing the same thing up and down the country. The powers that be never mess around with fraudsters but when its grooming. Paedos etc for some reason the perpetrators are treated with kid gloves. If the laws stopping them bringing these people to justice...its needing changed pronto.

You don't need twenty different pieces of evidence to convict them. Should be a case of we know its going on.....your going to jail. They didn't really mess about with Robinson was in jail for teatime.

We go on about having the best justice system in the world. But if you,ve got grooming gangs....or even gangsters drug gangs shooting the place up out doing as they please,...its not much good to anyone. Stop wasting tax payers money. If police believe your up to no good....straight to jail. Some of these people don't deserve trials.

Massive call....but I,d rather not have any more kids or on a seperate problem innocent victims shot. Appears criminals nowadays are running amok with the best justice system in the world.

Robinson pleaded guilty, and had the evidence in his pocket and was on a suspended sentence for it. What happened to him isn’t remotely worth comparing to these kind of trials.

The law isn’t stopping them, I’m not sure what you mean by that. How can the law be stopping them?

Who says we have the best justice system In the world? Though what you’re talking about isn’t a justice system. I’d be scared to live in a country where the police can just throw you in jail without evidence. As I’m sure you would too, really.

[bbjc]

These 39 men have went on trial but I bet they,ve groomed hundreds of girls in the time its taking them to get to court. How long has this been going on for. My guess is years. To me there's a problem if that's been allowed to go on. How many others are,nt even being prosecuted for it. What's stopping these people being dealt with by the courts. Whatever the answer to that is....needs to be changed regardless if its seen as fair or not.

I,d honestly give the police power to lock anyone up who they heavily suspect. Rather than allow stuff like this to go on. Its time to stop allowing stuff like this to go on. Regardless if people see it as fair or not. Same goes for drugs gangs etc. Running amok out there.

[mickey1975]

Just because you say ‘fact’ doesn’t make it a fact

No, but the fact my brother is a senior officer in a maximum security prison who tells me what goes on does.

And who have the state locked up without trial?

Yes, I'd be a good brother for saying that. It goes on, just like brutality still does in jail. They beat the crap out of them.