Filip Hrgovic vs. Filiberto Tovar: Battle of Unbeatens - June 9, 2018

Who wins

Poll ended at 09 Jun 2018, 15:25

Hrgovic - Decision
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Hrgovic - K/TKO
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TOO CLOSE
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Tovar - K/TKO
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Tovar - Decision
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Total votes: 13

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Re: Filip Hrgovic vs. Filiberto Tovar: Battle of Unbeatens - June 9, 2018

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Who would you compare Hrgovic too? Which past or former great fighter does he remind you of?

I think we are seeing the early stages of a star being born.
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pound per pound wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 08:25 Who would you compare Hrgovic too? Which past or former great fighter does he remind you of?

I think we are seeing the early stages of a star being born.
There are some similarities with Wlad. Well, I guess, Hrgovic had an opportunity to learn something from him, they apparently trained together and/or sparred.
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He reminds me a lot of Wlad. I hate comparing him to someone of Klitschko's proven quality at this early stage, I'm only referring to his style. Having said that I'm going to risk getting my head shot off by venturing to suggest that he may be more of a 'natural' than Wlad was.
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candyslim wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 08:51 He reminds me a lot of Wlad. I hate comparing him to someone of Klitschko's proven quality at this early stage, I'm only referring to his style. Having said that I'm going to risk getting my head shot off by venturing to suggest that he may be more of a 'natural' than Wlad was.
I see some similarities with Wlad, but with some major differences.

Wald hit harder. Hrgovic goes to the body more often and features an uppercut, two things Wlad never really did. Hrgovic isn't shy about mixing it and has a very sturdy chin.

I agree he's a natural. It's rare to see a big man that fast and fluid who can throw combinations with accuracy. Maybe a mix of Vitali and Bowe best describes his game?

We'll have to wait and see if he can do this vs the best out there.
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Filip Hrgovic 4 0 0
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Filiberto Tovar 9 0 0

Hrgovic won by TKO




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looks kinda slow and sloppy tbh
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candyslim wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 04:10 Oi! Hands off, he's a Brit ... or do I mean a Pom ? :D

Bugner holds three nationalities - Hungary - he fled when he was sixteen when the bolsheviks invaded the country, UK, and now Australia. He just narrowly won his latest victory on points, as he put it - over skin cancer.
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I knew all that. He fled Hungary in 56 to get away from your lot :D

My Pom reference was of course to the fact he is now an Australian citizen.
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pound per pound wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 11:15
candyslim wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 08:51 He reminds me a lot of Wlad. I hate comparing him to someone of Klitschko's proven quality at this early stage, I'm only referring to his style. Having said that I'm going to risk getting my head shot off by venturing to suggest that he may be more of a 'natural' than Wlad was.
I see some similarities with Wlad, but with some major differences.

Wald hit harder. Hrgovic goes to the body more often and features an uppercut, two things Wlad never really did. Hrgovic isn't shy about mixing it and has a very sturdy chin.

I agree he's a natural. It's rare to see a big man that fast and fluid who can throw combinations with accuracy. Maybe a mix of Vitali and Bowe best describes his game?

We'll have to wait and see if he can do this vs the best out there.
Yes I'd go along with that. I had thought of mentioning the difference in power. I'm not sure about the Bowe comparison though as Hrgovic is way more mobile and as you say, fluid.

I particularly loved the right hand to the body / right uppercut to the jaw combination he threw against Tovar, it is an unusual combination but Hrgovic made it look so smooth and natural. Whether he'd attempt that against a formidable opponent is another question - I guess we'll find out.
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looked slow and sloppy
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candyslim wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 02:52 I knew all that. He fled Hungary in 56 to get away from your lot :D

My Pom reference was of course to the fact he is now an Australian citizen.

My lot is anti-communist.
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next i say :

International Boxing Federation Inter-Continental Heavyweight Title
Champion Carlos Takam

Hrgovic.... easy win
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Always keen to learn x2x if you feel like educating me.
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candyslim wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 08:51 He reminds me a lot of Wlad. I hate comparing him to someone of Klitschko's proven quality at this early stage, I'm only referring to his style. Having said that I'm going to risk getting my head shot off by venturing to suggest that he may be more of a 'natural' than Wlad was.
Wlad hits much, much harder than Hrgovic ever will. And even stylistically he is closer to Vitali
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Definitely and maybe in that order.
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candyslim wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 08:48 Always keen to learn x2x if you feel like educating me.
Thanks, but perhaps this isn't the place for it.
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hrg has no snap in his shots
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Re: Filip Hrgovic vs. Filiberto Tovar: Battle of Unbeatens - June 9, 2018

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x2x wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 19:25
candyslim wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 08:48 Always keen to learn x2x if you feel like educating me.
Thanks, but perhaps this isn't the place for it.
There's always pm and it doesn't need to be the complete works, but as you wish.
jamamb wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 20:24 hrg has no snap in his shots
Well I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end but if he has an obvious weakness it would appear to be the absence of concussive power.
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candyslim wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:15
x2x wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 19:25
candyslim wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 08:48 Always keen to learn x2x if you feel like educating me.
Thanks, but perhaps this isn't the place for it.
There's always pm and it doesn't need to be the complete works, but as you wish.
jamamb wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 20:24 hrg has no snap in his shots
Well I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end but if he has an obvious weakness it would appear to be the absence of concussive power.

I'll pm you, Candy.
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jamamb wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 20:24 hrg has no snap in his shots
I would't say that. He's a solid puncher, just not on Wlad or Wilder's level, however he looks to have a top chin. At Hwy, I'd take that over top power. I see an all around talent.
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Re: Filip Hrgovic vs. Filiberto Tovar: Battle of Unbeatens - June 9, 2018

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tom lttle buzzed hrgo
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jamamb wrote: 13 Jun 2018, 20:31 tom lttle buzzed hrgo
No he didn't. Little landed, Hrgovic took a step back on balance then took control again.

My definition of buzzed is still, off balance with visible effect, and pausing for defense. Neither of that happened.
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