Crowd trouble tonight

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Went to the Bradley Skeete fight last month in Bilbao. Must have been 50 non-basques in a crowd of 5000. No alcohol available. Fairly ‘hostile’ to a point but felt safe as houses. Even the missus enjoyed it. No police and relatively few stewards.

This is a British thing. And the travellers are never far away from the mither.
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 04:04 Let's get it right, it's the gypos! They're a fuckin menace! I'm not tarring them all with the same brush but a lot of them are fuckin tits and start crap!

Personally, I've been threatened off them a few times. I caught two trying to steal metal out ma back garden and when I dug them up they threatened to shoot and slash me :lol: They think they can do what they want and nobody can say anything to them!
When was the last time there wasn't a fight in the crowd at a Tyson fight?

What are the odds that it will kick-off at his next fight? (more likely outside the ring than inside!).

Basically every traveller / traveller fan-boy in the country are jumping on the bandwagon.

They all reckon they know / are cousins of Tyson, and want to go to his fights, have a few pints, some beak, and show how hard they are by kicking-off.
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Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 07:07 Went to the Bradley Skeete fight last month in Bilbao. Must have been 50 non-basques in a crowd of 5000. No alcohol available. Fairly ‘hostile’ to a point but felt safe as houses. Even the missus enjoyed it. No police and relatively few stewards.

This is a British thing. And the travellers are never far away from the mither.
I don't know why but the Spanish don't scrap, when u go to nightclubs etc there are never any scraps. I'm surprised there was no alcohol available though. I saw the fight on the telly, it was an amazing if not intimidating atmosphere.
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bripez wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 07:10
Stuarty wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 04:04 Let's get it right, it's the gypos! They're a fuckin menace! I'm not tarring them all with the same brush but a lot of them are fuckin tits and start crap!

Personally, I've been threatened off them a few times. I caught two trying to steal metal out ma back garden and when I dug them up they threatened to shoot and slash me :lol: They think they can do what they want and nobody can say anything to them!
When was the last time there wasn't a fight in the crowd at a Tyson fight?

What are the odds that it will kick-off at his next fight? (more likely outside the ring than inside!).

Basically every traveller / traveller fan-boy in the country are jumping on the bandwagon.

They all reckon they know / are cousins of Tyson, and want to go to his fights, have a few pints, some beak, and show how hard they are by kicking-off.
Didn’t see any trouble at Wlad.
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The Pikeys like a ruck and a lot of them do cause bother but to be fair, they're not any worse than your average piss head! I've been going to shows since I was around 10 years old and I've seen a lot of bother but personally I've only ever been in one fight, and it wasn't even a fight, just a punch and it got split up...

I'm still waiting til my kids are older til I take them though!
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Alcohol, cocaine and testosterone.
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banjo wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:22 Alcohol, cocaine and testosterone.
I can be a bit short on drink but only sometimes. If I'm on the nose candy then I'm usually everyone's mate! It's weird that some folk take it and go bush :lol:
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CharlesListon wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 14:35 Problem is the promoter would have to pay for the police like they do at football.
It needs looking at.
Proper Door Supervisors throughout the crowd would help, rather than the strewards they have, but they cost a lot more than the stewards do.
That said, 50% of SIA badged door supervisors are effing melons now anyway.
I wont take my kids to shows. I go to about 5 or 6 am shows in a year and maybe 10 or 11 pro shows. The only trouble I've seen at am shows is travellers.
50% of SIA door supervisors are exactly the sort of people who get involved in this sort of brawl.
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Stuarty wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:27
banjo wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:22 Alcohol, cocaine and testosterone.
I can be a bit short on drink but only sometimes. If I'm on the nose candy then I'm usually everyone's mate! It's weird that some folk take it and go bush :lol:
Like anything it effects people differently but the vast majority of these kick offs involve people who are on some sort of substance, mainly alcohol.
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banjo wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:31
Stuarty wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:27
banjo wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:22 Alcohol, cocaine and testosterone.
I can be a bit short on drink but only sometimes. If I'm on the nose candy then I'm usually everyone's mate! It's weird that some folk take it and go bush :lol:
Like anything it effects people differently but the vast majority of these kick offs involve people who are on some sort of substance, mainly alcohol.
Yeah deffo banjo! Mostly drink! We had a wee row at the Frampton v Parodi fight because someone mouthed at my old man and called us Scottish wanks :lol: :lol:

After it my dad was pure raging saying 'calling me a Scottish wank', I said to be fair, you are Scottish and you are a wank :lol: You need to laugh!,
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The thing is, these boxing events always take place at night, which means some people have been on the ale all day so by the time they get into the venue they're steaming anyway, slightest nudge from someone or decide they don't like anyone who happens to glance at them and they explode.
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Most there on Saturday were football fans. He’s tapped into the casuals. Henry Wharton was one of the biggest ticket sellers of the 90’s and had zero trouble at his fights. And there were some rough lads from Hull, Darlington, Doncaster, York at every one. McNess fans were worse at The Copperbox, until they got chinned. I’ve even seen three black lads absolutely destroyed because Ryan Rhodes got stopped by Jason Matthews! Worst one recently was Damo Jones in Barnsley. That made Saturday look like schoolboy stuff. As soon as I saw his coaches pull up I knew it was trouble.
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Yeah Henry Wharton had some very rough followers
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Coco wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 07:43
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 07:07 Went to the Bradley Skeete fight last month in Bilbao. Must have been 50 non-basques in a crowd of 5000. No alcohol available. Fairly ‘hostile’ to a point but felt safe as houses. Even the missus enjoyed it. No police and relatively few stewards.

This is a British thing. And the travellers are never far away from the mither.
I don't know why but the Spanish don't scrap, when u go to nightclubs etc there are never any scraps. I'm surprised there was no alcohol available though. I saw the fight on the telly, it was an amazing if not intimidating atmosphere.
They don't really have a drinking culture. They drink socially with meals but they don't go out to drink.

My mate had a bunch of them over on some exchange, they were all pretty laid back but didn't understand the concept of going out to drink. Mind you one of them staying with him used to put coffee on her cornflakes and didn't wash her clothes.
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That's not 100% true, while it is very typical that a night starts of with a big meal, the Spanish can really party whether you are talking of drink or drugs but it hardly ever translates into violence.
At worst people do it with words but even then if it is heated it doesn't descend into punches being thrown.
If someone was giving it the big one they would be shocked if someone turned round and belted them!
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Anyone notice the lyrics he came out to on Saturday. That’s got to be a fine.
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mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 05:02 Anyone notice the lyrics he came out to on Saturday. That’s got to be a fine.
eh?
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Some get violent , just ask Kell Brooks
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Counter-puncher wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 05:09
mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 05:02 Anyone notice the lyrics he came out to on Saturday. That’s got to be a fine.
eh?
He had a dj turn all the lyrics in “because I got high “until it turned into Return of the Mack.
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I thought that was really funny tbh.
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“And I was going to beat Wladimir, until I got high”, and I sold Manchester arena “because I got high”.
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mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:46 Most there on Saturday were football fans. He’s tapped into the casuals. Henry Wharton was one of the biggest ticket sellers of the 90’s and had zero trouble at his fights. And there were some rough lads from Hull, Darlington, Doncaster, York at every one. McNess fans were worse at The Copperbox, until they got chinned. I’ve even seen three black lads absolutely destroyed because Ryan Rhodes got stopped by Jason Matthews! Worst one recently was Damo Jones in Barnsley. That made Saturday look like schoolboy stuff. As soon as I saw his coaches pull up I knew it was trouble.
Fair points Mickey. I remember reading about one incident where things got incredibly nasty outside the venue and think that someone was even run over - was that the Rhodes/Matthews incident you're talking about?
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That was a Silky Jones card wasn't it? Mate of Matthews got pulled off the coach and ran over. Interestingly Matthews called for a ban on alcohol at venues.
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Deserter wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 06:45
mickey1975 wrote: 12 Jun 2018, 03:46 Most there on Saturday were football fans. He’s tapped into the casuals. Henry Wharton was one of the biggest ticket sellers of the 90’s and had zero trouble at his fights. And there were some rough lads from Hull, Darlington, Doncaster, York at every one. McNess fans were worse at The Copperbox, until they got chinned. I’ve even seen three black lads absolutely destroyed because Ryan Rhodes got stopped by Jason Matthews! Worst one recently was Damo Jones in Barnsley. That made Saturday look like schoolboy stuff. As soon as I saw his coaches pull up I knew it was trouble.
Fair points Mickey. I remember reading about one incident where things got incredibly nasty outside the venue and think that someone was even run over - was that the Rhodes/Matthews incident you're talking about?
I saw the Wharton v Eubank fight live and it was electric, by far the best fight I've been to in terms of atmosphere. No trouble at all and I was sat among thousands of lads from all over Yorkshire.
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No, it was Hatton/Farnell. Rhodes—Matthews topped the bill, Doncaster. It was very bad.
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