HW SEASON WEEK 9 MATCHUPS

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remember guys that Sundays are going to be the deadline from now on.....I'll extend it to Monday for this week since it was a late start on the matchmaking but after this week its going to be Sunday deadlines every week for the rest of the season.
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Is there no one in all of simdom that will step up this week to face Ali?

If not...do we get a say in just who we face?

I'd just like to know what is acceptable, and what will be smiled upon vs what will bring great umbrage and outrage.

Once we know what our options are we just might choose umbrage.


But when no one steps up, what do the rules, regulations, by-laws, codes and protocals require of us?
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UNMATCHED FIGHTERS
armageto - James Jeffries
BoxBuzz - Muhammad Ali
Crease - Jersey Joe Walcott
Dottier Charredo - Jack Dempsey, Vitali Klitschko
DrDuke - Tommy Morrison
Fist of Legend - Mike Tyson, Joe Jeanette
HyacinthusTurnipseed - Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Dariusz Michalczewski
P4P1 -Sonny Liston, David Haye
Techno89 - Joe Frazier, Wladimir Klitschko, Carlos DeLeon

LADIES' SECTION

UNMATCHED WOMEN
Crease - Laila Ali
Dottier Charredo - Holly Holm
DrDuke - Natascha Ragosina
HyacinthusTurnipseed - Lucia Rijker
P4P1 - Anne Wolfe
Techno89 - Jackie Nava
WestEndRiot - Christy Martin

I'll research the thread later in case I missed a matchup or two.

Ali still also needs an opponent who wants a title shot.

TOMORROW is the due date this week for matchups. After that we plan on the last day to match up your guys being Sunday. So please get your guys lined up by Monday the 11th.
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:brick: I'd just match them all up with random CPU opponents, and throw Ali in with Jeffries and Klitschko against Joe Louis, to get this show on the road.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 10 Jun 2018, 12:36 :brick: I'd just match them all up with random CPU opponents, and throw Ali in with Jeffries and Klitschko against Joe Louis, to get this show on the road.
I think most people will get matched up by tomorrow. I'm just waiting to see what Louis/Frazier do.
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Well now Henry, I gotta hand it to ya, that Jeffries suggestion...well, no doubt about it, that's a good idea, but I think armageto prefers to "manage" his fighter........you know....the way GBP .likes to do.....but when some make choices it's brilliant management, and "strategery". And when others do it, they are ruining the fun for everyone else......

Because, as we know, on animal farm "all are equal.....but some are equaler than others".

It has always been a certifiable fact that GBP is the "equalest" of all. Feared, and misunderstood, and cruelly dictating the pace...constantly taking others out of their comfort zone. Disrupting the "natural flow" while bringing the best out in everyone.

That's just how it is.

I guess we'll just have to "see what happens",.

However if we are to be abandoned, and without a challenger we will face The Biggest, Tallest, Heaviest Champion of all time.....because we have no fear of Giants.......and that would be Valuev.
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Granted if Johnson does the impossible against Durakovic, we figure Ali vs Johnson would be a great fight. :box:
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Christy Martin vs Freeda Foreman
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Fighters eligible for title shot against either Ali (WBA) who are still unmatched:

7 Louis Joe United States Heavyweight 1340.3
14 Frazier Joe United States Heavyweight 1302.1
15 Jeffries James United States Heavyweight 1256.9
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ok, so the deadline is today, I'll give it a couple more hours for people to get a chance to make matchups but im running the card tonight so I can get results up tomorrow.

Tyson and Jeannette are open to fight if anyone makes a challenge otherwise I'll find them some cpu's.
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We would prefer not to face another managed fighter IF that manager has not made the expressed decisions to face us.

Takes to much control away from those who pay to play.

So.....if the manager is ok with it, and they have ok'd the challenge.......we are in......otherwise we will face Valuev even if it means we are stripped of the title.

We would like to have at least a minimum say in what "our" (if I can be so bold as to claim oversight over my own stable) fighter does or does not do.

However being stripped in this case seems unfair........but....sa la vie.

Once again we are willing to face any managed fighter that is qualified under the published terms of the rules, regulations, and protocols of the commish.
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If nobody steps up to face Ali he can have a non title bout.
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Jeffries is willing to take on Ali....IF

Win or lose, either Jeffries or Jackson have a chance to face Max S. within 4 sim weeks, so week 13. We will face Max when he isn't coming off a loss and our pick who faces him when. If he was to lose in week 12, we could face him in week 14, so he's not coming off a loss.

If Buzz agrees, then the fight is on. If not, I'll schedule a CPU for Jeffries and Ali can face Valuev in a non title if Louis/Frazier don't step up.
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armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 14:45 Jeffries is willing to take on Ali....IF

Win or lose, either Jeffries or Jackson have a chance to face Max S. within 4 sim weeks, so week 13. We will face Max when he isn't coming off a loss and our pick who faces him when. If he was to lose in week 12, we could face him in week 14, so he's not coming off a loss.

If Buzz agrees, then the fight is on. If not, I'll schedule a CPU for Jeffries and Ali can face Valuev in a non title if Louis/Frazier don't step up.
I misunderstood at first......I mistook a Jackson for a Johnson....and we all know how painful that can be.

Help me to remember.....Didn't Jackson and Ali already face off once?

But you want Schmeling?

What about a stable war next week? I'm ok with that idea......if we can have all our fighters tangle that works for me as well.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 15:01
armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 14:45 Jeffries is willing to take on Ali....IF

Win or lose, either Jeffries or Jackson have a chance to face Max S. within 4 sim weeks, so week 13. We will face Max when he isn't coming off a loss and our pick who faces him when. If he was to lose in week 12, we could face him in week 14, so he's not coming off a loss.

If Buzz agrees, then the fight is on. If not, I'll schedule a CPU for Jeffries and Ali can face Valuev in a non title if Louis/Frazier don't step up.
I misunderstood at first......I mistook a Jackson for a Johnson....and we all know how painful that can be.

Help me to remember.....Didn't Jackson and Ali already face off once?
Ali won by MD, with a point from the knockdown being the difference. Ali doesn't equate into this at all after the Jeffries fight.

By week 13, I can put either Jackson OR Jeffries against Mad Max Scmelling. I get to chose who and the week, but I won't fight Max if he comes off a loss to kill your momentum. If he was to lose in week 12, I'd just extend it a week and face him in week 14.
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If nothing can be worked out, Jeffries will face John Ruiz.
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armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 15:04
BoxBuzz wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 15:01
armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 14:45 Jeffries is willing to take on Ali....IF

Win or lose, either Jeffries or Jackson have a chance to face Max S. within 4 sim weeks, so week 13. We will face Max when he isn't coming off a loss and our pick who faces him when. If he was to lose in week 12, we could face him in week 14, so he's not coming off a loss.

If Buzz agrees, then the fight is on. If not, I'll schedule a CPU for Jeffries and Ali can face Valuev in a non title if Louis/Frazier don't step up.
I misunderstood at first......I mistook a Jackson for a Johnson....and we all know how painful that can be.

Help me to remember.....Didn't Jackson and Ali already face off once?
Ali won by MD, with a point from the knockdown being the difference. Ali doesn't equate into this at all after the Jeffries fight.

By week 13, I can put either Jackson OR Jeffries against Mad Max Scmelling. I get to chose who and the week, but I won't fight Max if he comes off a loss to kill your momentum. If he was to lose in week 12, I'd just extend it a week and face him in week 14.
This is like Korea and the U.S. negotiating.....however I do believe we can do business here.

I've been wanting the Ali Jeffries fight for some time because it would be competitive.. The fact that you need something to get you to the table is surprising....since you typically want to call US out for not "going along willingly" into every rule or challenge that we come up against. You throw us considerable shade when we do reasonable and sensible things....such as minding our own business, advocating for our own fighters, and making the difficult business decisions to support our fighters to the hilt. Which is what a good manager does.

You know full well you are getting the better end of this. However, it's a well known fact that GBP is always .giving, and giving, and giving some more. Which pretty much defines us.

So.....as we so often do, .we will agree to this unfair challenge, and we once again have been out negotiated.

We do this to make the point that we are always humbly and honorable engaged.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 16:30
armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 15:04
BoxBuzz wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 15:01

I misunderstood at first......I mistook a Jackson for a Johnson....and we all know how painful that can be.

Help me to remember.....Didn't Jackson and Ali already face off once?
Ali won by MD, with a point from the knockdown being the difference. Ali doesn't equate into this at all after the Jeffries fight.

By week 13, I can put either Jackson OR Jeffries against Mad Max Scmelling. I get to chose who and the week, but I won't fight Max if he comes off a loss to kill your momentum. If he was to lose in week 12, I'd just extend it a week and face him in week 14.
This is like Korea and the U.S. negotiating.....however I do believe we can do business here.

I've been wanting the Ali Jeffries fight for some time because it would be competitive.. The fact that you need something to get you to the table is surprising....since you typically want to call US out for not "going along willingly" into every rule or challenge that we come up against. You throw us considerable shade when we do reasonable and sensible things....such as minding our own business, advocating for our own fighters, and making the difficult business decisions to support our fighters to the hilt. Which is what a good manager does.

You know full well you are getting the better end of this. However, it's a well known fact that GBP is always .giving, and giving, and giving some more. Which pretty much defines us.

So.....as we so often do, .we will agree to this unfair challenge, and we once again have been out negotiated.

We do this to make the point that we are always humbly and honorable engaged.
There's really nothing one sided about this deal. Do you think Max vs Jackson or Jeffries is a complete blowout? I'd give the same slight advantage to either one of my guys as I would to Ali over Jeffries. I've tried to fight your guys (And woman) all season to no luck. If Jackson win another fight or two, it would be a title shot for Max if we went that route. It's a fair deal and you know it....
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Ok, Ragosina has no opponents willing to fight her, so she picks a back-up Ana Marie Torres, if no one appears before the end of match-up time.
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armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 17:13
BoxBuzz wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 16:30
armageto wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 15:04

Ali won by MD, with a point from the knockdown being the difference. Ali doesn't equate into this at all after the Jeffries fight.

By week 13, I can put either Jackson OR Jeffries against Mad Max Scmelling. I get to chose who and the week, but I won't fight Max if he comes off a loss to kill your momentum. If he was to lose in week 12, I'd just extend it a week and face him in week 14.
This is like Korea and the U.S. negotiating.....however I do believe we can do business here.

I've been wanting the Ali Jeffries fight for some time because it would be competitive.. The fact that you need something to get you to the table is surprising....since you typically want to call US out for not "going along willingly" into every rule or challenge that we come up against. You throw us considerable shade when we do reasonable and sensible things....such as minding our own business, advocating for our own fighters, and making the difficult business decisions to support our fighters to the hilt. Which is what a good manager does.

You know full well you are getting the better end of this. However, it's a well known fact that GBP is always .giving, and giving, and giving some more. Which pretty much defines us.

So.....as we so often do, .we will agree to this unfair challenge, and we once again have been out negotiated.

We do this to make the point that we are always humbly and honorable engaged.
There's really nothing one sided about this deal. Do you think Max vs Jackson or Jeffries is a complete blowout? I'd give the same slight advantage to either one of my guys as I would to Ali over Jeffries. I've tried to fight your guys (And woman) all season to no luck. If Jackson win another fight or two, it would be a title shot for Max if we went that route. It's a fair deal and you know it....

Geto......I almost accused you of being a straight talker, and that wouldn't be all that unsettling if this wasn't the world wild web, but here in this land.....you may be the only one left. And though you did mention YOUR calling Max out, which is a fact... you didn't mention the carte blanche we have been giving JJJ. So you are guilty of fake news (by omission at least).

I'd give both your guys an advantage over Max, and both your guys a disadvantage against Ali.

So.....if we do the odds.......this puts one of my fighters in the advantage zone vs your guys...but two of your fighters in the advantage zone vs my guys. And if we each consider our stables "teams" this places "Team Geto" at an advantage. We are both gamblers........so don't try pullin' a fast one, and imagine I'm being bamboozled.

Ya gotta get up pretty early in the afternoon to slip one past me.

But more to the point.......the answer is yes, in the spirit of Singapore.
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DrDuke wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 17:49 Ok, Ragosina has no opponents willing to fight her, so she picks a back-up Ana Marie Torres, if no one appears before the end of match-up time.

Here's some advice....tell her to quit hitting other girls so damn hard. If you can get that message through to her, perhaps we can do business at a later date. But I'll need some evidence to show you're working on it.
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DrDuke wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 17:49 Ok, Ragosina has no opponents willing to fight her, so she picks a back-up Ana Marie Torres, if no one appears before the end of match-up time.
I have her marked down for you sir........ :TU:
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True to a point Buzz, but only one of my guys will face Max, so Ali will have a slight edge over Jeffries and Jeffries or Jackson will have a slight edge over Max.

Detroit isn't taking that Vitali loss too good, not matching up his guys so far this week. What's up with your boy Gil?

Hy...turn.... has been missing the last couple of weeks. Hopefully he is ok.....
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Maybe we just need to let folks know that they are welcomed back when they can get around to it...….some may get embarrassed by missing a week and throwing in the towel to save face...…..I figure it's no harm no foul......just get back here when you can.

Maybe there should be a process for unattended weeks.....notice I said a "process" not an execution. I wonder how the software rates the inactivity of fighters? Does it go by percentages or pure wins and losses......or more interesting does it keep the "points" process separate from the "rankings" process?

I don't know the answer.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 11 Jun 2018, 20:10 Maybe we just need to let folks know that they are welcomed back when they can get around to it...….some may get embarrassed by missing a week and throwing in the towel to save face...…..I figure it's no harm no foul......just get back here when you can.

Maybe there should be a process for unattended weeks.....notice I said a "process" not an execution. I wonder how the software rates the inactivity of fighters? Does it go by percentages or pure wins and losses......or more interesting does it keep the "points" process separate from the "rankings" process?

I don't know the answer.
Well, for people that might be gone multiple weeks, we will hold their stable for 10 Sim weeks. A manager could also leave his stable to a manager he trusts.

As far as not matching up your guys for a week here or there, Fist has been having them fight random CPU's. He could opt to do that or just let them sit idle.

If a manager just goes missing wth no word we turn his fighters back into the free agent pool. I think we have it at 5 weeks of no input.
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