Lewis or Wlad, who was better?

[jamamb]

prime lewis would batter the k bros one after the other in the same night, eazy work. way more complete then both of them

[Ilya Muromets]

Wlad of course. Lewis was a very dirty fighter.

Here we go again,Lewis will be remembered for lots of things,great jab,3 times champ,the 2 ko defeats,the 2 revenge wins etc but nobody ever says he's a dirty fighter,Wlad would have shat himself with Lewis staring at him from across the ring.

Nobody? Nobody amongst you and your friends perhaps, because you aren't knowledgeable and/or perceptive enough to see what was really going on.

[Luis Fernando12]

Vitali? Come on, he was way better than both Wlad and Lewis. He retired 46-2 with being the WBO champ, and, twice, the WBC champ. He was ahead on all 3 scorecards against Lewis when the fight was stopped. In his entire pro boxing career, the former kickboxer was never knocked down, he NEVER even touched the floor. Vitali was a beast!

Wlad has an Olympic gold medal. Vitali has none. Wlad dominated for 10 years in the pros and has a far better resume. Held more belts. Has more wins. Has far more title defenses. And accomplished far more. At this stage, Vitali has barely proved to even be better than Kubrat Pulev, never mind Wladimir Klitschko.

[bigjack]

Wlad of course. Lewis was a very dirty fighter.

Here we go again,Lewis will be remembered for lots of things,great jab,3 times champ,the 2 ko defeats,the 2 revenge wins etc but nobody ever says he's a dirty fighter,Wlad would have shat himself with Lewis staring at him from across the ring.

Nobody? Nobody amongst you and your friends perhaps, because you aren't knowledgeable and/or perceptive enough to see what was really going on.

I know more than you fool.

[jamamb]

lennox was a very dirty fighter, the big meany battered poor vitali until vits face fell off, thats dirty and obviously since it happened to vitali lewis mustve been cheating

[bigjack]

lennox was a very dirty fighter, the big meany battered poor vitali until vits face fell off, thats dirty and obviously since it happened to vitali lewis mustve been cheating

Haha yeh,naughty Lennox hit the nice man in the face with his fist,some people are still crying now

[Ilya Muromets]

Vitali? Come on, he was way better than both Wlad and Lewis. He retired 46-2 with being the WBO champ, and, twice, the WBC champ. He was ahead on all 3 scorecards against Lewis when the fight was stopped. In his entire pro boxing career, the former kickboxer was never knocked down, he NEVER even touched the floor. Vitali was a beast!

Nor was he ever cut in his entire boxing and kickboxing career - except when dirty fighting Lennox Lewis ran the lacing of his glove along his face to cut him and then spent the entire remainder of the fight trying to open up the cut by rubbing his hair into it. Lewis should gave been dq'd. Also Vitali has an even higher KO percentage than his brother, and he was gyped out of at least one more KO when Briggs' corner didn't throw in the towel (that corner and the ref should have been charged with attempted homicide or something, and Briggs personality was tofally changed by that awful beating).

[Luis Fernando12]

Wladimir Klitschko cleanly KO'ed Kubrat Pulev by dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count.

Lennox Lewis couldn't cleanly KO Vitali Klitschko by dropping him to the canvas for the 10 count.

Ergo, Wladimir Klitschko > Lennox Lewis!

[bigjack]

Vitali? Come on, he was way better than both Wlad and Lewis. He retired 46-2 with being the WBO champ, and, twice, the WBC champ. He was ahead on all 3 scorecards against Lewis when the fight was stopped. In his entire pro boxing career, the former kickboxer was never knocked down, he NEVER even touched the floor. Vitali was a beast!

Nor was he ever cut in his entire boxing and kickboxing career - except when dirty fighting Lennox Lewis ran the lacing of his glove along his face to cut him and then spent the entire remainder of the fight trying to open up the cut by rubbing his hair into it. Lewis should gave been dq'd. Also Vitali has an even higher KO percentage than his brother, and he was gyped out of at least one more KO when Briggs' corner didn't throw in the towel (that corner and the ref should have been charged with attempted homicide or something, and Briggs personality was tofally changed by that awful beating).

move on man it's a long time to hold a grudge.

[Ilya Muromets]

Here we go again,Lewis will be remembered for lots of things,great jab,3 times champ,the 2 ko defeats,the 2 revenge wins etc but nobody ever says he's a dirty fighter,Wlad would have shat himself with Lewis staring at him from across the ring.

Nobody? Nobody amongst you and your friends perhaps, because you aren't knowledgeable and/or perceptive enough to see what was really going on.

I know more than you fool.

"You" should have a comma after it.

[bigjack]

Nobody? Nobody amongst you and your friends perhaps, because you aren't knowledgeable and/or perceptive enough to see what was really going on.

I know more than you fool.

"You" should have a comma after it.

you should grow up and stop crying.

[Ilya Muromets]

Vitali? Come on, he was way better than both Wlad and Lewis. He retired 46-2 with being the WBO champ, and, twice, the WBC champ. He was ahead on all 3 scorecards against Lewis when the fight was stopped. In his entire pro boxing career, the former kickboxer was never knocked down, he NEVER even touched the floor. Vitali was a beast!

Nor was he ever cut in his entire boxing and kickboxing career - except when dirty fighting Lennox Lewis ran the lacing of his glove along his face to cut him and then spent the entire remainder of the fight trying to open up the cut by rubbing his hair into it. Lewis should gave been dq'd. Also Vitali has an even higher KO percentage than his brother, and he was gyped out of at least one more KO when Briggs' corner didn't throw in the towel (that corner and the ref should have been charged with attempted homicide or something, and Briggs personality was tofally changed by that awful beating).

move on man it's a long time to hold a grudge.

They expect people to have like ten second attention spans and immediately forget their boxing bs. Like,hey it's over forget it. Same with the Wilder-Ortiz bs on the other thread. Same with all their phony judge decisions and referee monkey business and all the otherboxing bs.

Actually boxing is the least of it.

[jamamb]

see to me it sounds unnatural to have the comma

like, imagine someone saying it to you with that pause

'i know more than you......fool"

with the pause its like, did it take the person some time to think to add on fool to the end? did they have second doubts about adding the fool part? saying it without the pause shows much more fluidity of thought and self assurance
'

[Ilya Muromets]

I know more than you fool.

"You" should have a comma after it.

you should grow up and stop crying.

"You" should be capitalized. Did you ever go to school? What, if anything, did you learn there?

[bigjack]

see to me it sounds unnatural to have the comma

like, imagine someone saying it to you with that pause

'i know more than you......fool"

with the pause its like, did it take the person some time to think to add on fool to the end? did they have second doubts about adding the fool part? saying it without the pause shows much more fluidity of thought and self assurance
'

exactly,and i didn't need to think about adding fool at the end,i've read this crap about Lewis cheating many times by the same clown

[bigjack]

"You" should have a comma after it.

you should grow up and stop crying.

"You" should be capitalized. Did you ever go to school? What, if anything, did you learn there?

Taken too many punches from cheating heavyweights

[Ilya Muromets]

see to me it sounds unnatural to have the comma

like, imagine someone saying it to you with that pause

'i know more than you......fool"

with the pause its like, did it take the person some time to think to add on fool to the end? did they have second doubts about adding the fool part? saying it without the pause shows much more fluidity of thought and self assurance
'

No. Without the comma it's as if you are saying, I know more than you-fool, as tho you were talking about someone named Youfool. The object of the sentence is indicated by the comma. There was an old comic routine about "Where's the soda jerk", which has quite a different meaning than "Where's the soda, jerk?"

[bigjack]

see to me it sounds unnatural to have the comma

like, imagine someone saying it to you with that pause

'i know more than you......fool"

with the pause its like, did it take the person some time to think to add on fool to the end? did they have second doubts about adding the fool part? saying it without the pause shows much more fluidity of thought and self assurance
'

No. Without the comma it's as if you are saying, I know more than you-fool, as tho you were talking about someone named Youfool. The object of the sentence is indicated by the comma. There was an old comic routine about "Where's the soda jerk", which has quite a different meaning than "Where's the soda, jerk?"

Though not tho

[Ilya Muromets]

see to me it sounds unnatural to have the comma

like, imagine someone saying it to you with that pause

'i know more than you......fool"

with the pause its like, did it take the person some time to think to add on fool to the end? did they have second doubts about adding the fool part? saying it without the pause shows much more fluidity of thought and self assurance
'

exactly,and i didn't need to think about adding fool at the end,i've read this crap about Lewis cheating many times by the same clown

I don't recall talking about Lewis on here before, but if did it just shows that you are slow to learn. From now on when you see me writing anything here i want you to take notes and then go home and memorize it.

[bigjack]

see to me it sounds unnatural to have the comma

like, imagine someone saying it to you with that pause

'i know more than you......fool"

with the pause its like, did it take the person some time to think to add on fool to the end? did they have second doubts about adding the fool part? saying it without the pause shows much more fluidity of thought and self assurance
'

exactly,and i didn't need to think about adding fool at the end,i've read this crap about Lewis cheating many times by the same clown

I don't recall talking about Lewis on here before, but if did it just shows that you are slow to learn. From now on when you see me writing anything here i want you to take notes and then go home and memorize it.

What,you've never mentioned him cheating against Vitali,maybe you've had too many beatings too ?

[Noxy]

prime lewis would batter the k bros one after the other in the same night, eazy work. way more complete then both of them

No he wouldn’t, no one would do that.

[Boxing Writer]

Lewis by a country mile. It would have been like the Michael Grant fight all over again

LOL

Wladimir Klitschko is about 10000 times better than Michael Grant.

[HeavyHitters]

Vitali? Come on, he was way better than both Wlad and Lewis. He retired 46-2 with being the WBO champ, and, twice, the WBC champ. He was ahead on all 3 scorecards against Lewis when the fight was stopped. In his entire pro boxing career, the former kickboxer was never knocked down, he NEVER even touched the floor. Vitali was a beast!

Agreed. The answer here is Vitali.

[IKSRTFO]

Let's do the math:

Wladimir Klitschko = dominated the heavyweight division by remaining the number 1 heavyweight in the world for 10 years and had over 20 title defences.

Lennox Lewis = dominated the heavyweight division by remaining the number 1 heavyweight in the world for less than 10 years and had less than 20 title defences.

It's pretty simple! Wladimir Klitschko had the far superior boxing career. His heavyweight record is mathematically superior without any doubt.

As for Vitali Klitschko being better than Wladimir Klitschko. Lol. Vitali wasn't even better than Kubrat Pulev skill wise. And Vitali doesn't even have a better heavyweight record / resume than Wlad's leftover in Alexander Povetkin. That's just a fact! Vitali doesn't even compare to Wladimir Klitschko in terms of boxing accomplishments

A 38 year old Wladimir Klitschko cleanly KO'ed a prime Kubrat Pulev without needing any nonsensical referee stoppage. Whilst at the same age, Lewis needed the referee to gift him the victory against Vitali Klitschko because he was unable to win, purely on his own and retired like a coward by not giving Vitali the well deserved rematch that he earned. Wlad had the courage to continue fighting and proving himself, at a far older age.

There isn't any comparison! Lewis has no standout wins either. He beat no opponent that someone else also didn't beat, or didn't beat more convincingly / as convincingly. Whilst Wladimir Klitschko beat many opponents that only he beat, or beat most convincingly. E.G. Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev, Sultan Ibragimov and Eddie Chambers.

There's no logical way one could infer that Lewis was better. Not only was Wlad better, but he was better by a significant margin. Just a far superior athlete and technician overall.

He also fought in a much weaker era than Lewis did. The same old Tyson, the way he came out in the first round against Lewis likely would've caught Wladmir.

[HeavyHitters]

Vitali? Come on, he was way better than both Wlad and Lewis. He retired 46-2 with being the WBO champ, and, twice, the WBC champ. He was ahead on all 3 scorecards against Lewis when the fight was stopped. In his entire pro boxing career, the former kickboxer was never knocked down, he NEVER even touched the floor. Vitali was a beast!

If you pitted Lewis against Wladimir, you would end up with a massive hugging contest. Manny, unfortunately, was a master at teaching a heavyweight with a weak chin how to "wrestle, clinch, hold and hug"; if and when his fighter would get into trouble with his weak chin. Or......... he would teach his heavyweight how to prevent his weak chin by coming in to play during a fight. As much as I liked Manny, this is one aspect of his training I frowned upon. Instead of teaching Lewis and Wladimir how to fight on the inside properly, he merely taught them how to survive with these "ugly" hugging tactics.

Take, for example, a heavyweight who naturally knew how to fight on the inside, like Riddick Bowe, who was a master at it.

If Lewis and Wladimir would have fought, it most likely would of been a huge letdown to fight fans, as the hugging tactics of both fighters would have overshadowed any fireworks that might have happened.

On the other hand, There was hardly any holding and hugging going on, when Lewis and Vitali fought each other. Talk about an action-packed brawl!! And Vitali was getting the better of Lewis thoughout the fight. Unfortunately, he was cut, and the ringside doctor called a halt to the excitement.

And, if the Klitschko brothers ever did fight, Vitali would have ripped his brothers head off ( if they were not brothers, of course ).