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tim99b
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How many fights

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How many fights would it on average take to win these belts (featherweight to welterweight)

Area:
English:
British:
Commonwealth:
European:
World:
Mimmy
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Re: How many fights

Post by Mimmy »

10
15
18
19
21
25
jamamb
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Re: How many fights

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commonwealth should be below british tbh, even though in theory it would have a larger talent pool able to compete for the belt
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Re: How many fights

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jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:47 commonwealth should be below british tbh, even though in theory it would have a larger talent pool able to compete for the belt
it is
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Re: How many fights

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it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
leejonesjnr
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Post by leejonesjnr »

jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:52 it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
In reality it is, I asked the question ‘when did that happen?’ In another thread recently.
It’s not uncommon to box for commonwealth in 10 fights or less
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jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:52 it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
you cant have that because British is one entity if you like where as Commonwealth has far more, Canada for 1 has had many good boxers and possibly better than British, Razer Ruddock, Adonis Stevenson, Arturo Gatti, Matthew Hilton, Michael Olajide for example who have been decent boxers and possibly better than British counterparts of the same weight.

Nah, for me, British is right then Commonwealth.
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leejonesjnr wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:01
jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:52 it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
In reality it is, I asked the question ‘when did that happen?’ In another thread recently.
It’s not uncommon to box for commonwealth in 10 fights or less
There's been a good few British fighters that have won the CW but haven't been good enough to compete at British level in recent years as well. I'd agree the British is above the CW in terms of level.

Lee McAllister 2x weight CW champ
Paul Truscott
Ross Burkinshaw
Craig Docherty

That's just off the top of my head. There's loads more on the tip of my tongue.,...
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Mimmy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:02
jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:52 it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
you cant have that because British is one entity if you like where as Commonwealth has far more, Canada for 1 has had many good boxers and possibly better than British, Razer Ruddock, Adonis Stevenson, Arturo Gatti, Matthew Hilton, Michael Olajide for example who have been decent boxers and possibly better than British counterparts of the same weight.

Nah, for me, British is right then Commonwealth.
you speak more to theory though. ya, the commonwealth has greater elgibility, but in reality its below the british these days i feel in terms of whose actually fighting for it. you mention canadians but quality canadians very rarely fight for it now, and likewise i dont think its much of a deal at all outside uk
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Mimmy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:02
jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:52 it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
you cant have that because British is one entity if you like where as Commonwealth has far more, Canada for 1 has had many good boxers and possibly better than British, Razer Ruddock, Adonis Stevenson, Arturo Gatti, Matthew Hilton, Michael Olajide for example who have been decent boxers and possibly better than British counterparts of the same weight.

Nah, for me, British is right then Commonwealth.
Nobody who actually follows boxing would argue that the level of competition for the commonwealth title is above the level for the British title
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leejonesjnr wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:26
Mimmy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:02
jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:52 it should be below the british in significance is what i mean
you cant have that because British is one entity if you like where as Commonwealth has far more, Canada for 1 has had many good boxers and possibly better than British, Razer Ruddock, Adonis Stevenson, Arturo Gatti, Matthew Hilton, Michael Olajide for example who have been decent boxers and possibly better than British counterparts of the same weight.

Nah, for me, British is right then Commonwealth.
Nobody who actually follows boxing would argue that the level of competition for the commonwealth title is above the level for the British title
dont think anyone is arguing Lee
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Mimmy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:30
leejonesjnr wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:26
Mimmy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:02

you cant have that because British is one entity if you like where as Commonwealth has far more, Canada for 1 has had many good boxers and possibly better than British, Razer Ruddock, Adonis Stevenson, Arturo Gatti, Matthew Hilton, Michael Olajide for example who have been decent boxers and possibly better than British counterparts of the same weight.

Nah, for me, British is right then Commonwealth.
Nobody who actually follows boxing would argue that the level of competition for the commonwealth title is above the level for the British title
dont think anyone is arguing Lee
You are
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Re: How many fights

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leejonesjnr wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:50
Mimmy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:30
leejonesjnr wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 14:26

Nobody who actually follows boxing would argue that the level of competition for the commonwealth title is above the level for the British title
dont think anyone is arguing Lee
You are
i suppose if I answer this then you are right.
JamieM
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Re: How many fights

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I think loads come into it

1. How many tickets do you sell
2. Who is representing you
3. Where you are based
4. Who else is based there
5. Who your team are

I think these come into play more than how many fights you have. It's always easier when your being built on the back of someone and they need to give you opportunity. All about the money etc.
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Re: How many fights

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The area titles and English title are not contested all that often either these days
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