Magee v hatton

[Bigdogsnose]

Anybody remember much about this fight?

I have just read The lost soul of Eamonn Magee (class btw) and he felt he did enough to win the fight but he was never going to get the win with the referee (Micky vann) and the home crowd against him. He doesn’t cry out robbery, but certainly feels he was the better fighter on the night.

Having also read Ricky Hatton’s book not long ago, he unsurprisingly has a different take. After the first round knockdown he felt he adjusted and completely controlled the fight from distance earning a comfortable win.

Anyone remember enough about this fight at the time to have a particularly strong view on it. I certainly can’t remember any controversy at the time (in my teens), or indeed recall it as any real question mark on Ricky’s record. The full fights on youtube so I’ll get round to watching it myself soon.

[littlepug]

From what I can remember apart from the first 2 rounds Ricky won everything, it was a hard fought fight but Hatton controlled it after the first 2 shaky rounds.

[Stuarty]

I thought Hatton just scraped it but it was a tough tough night for him. Magee has a point to be fair as he picked Hatton off at times and landed some lovely counters. Hattons pressure won him it for me but I wouldn't argue the other way although I'd need to watch it again.

[lefthook82]

Hatton was aw worthy winner but he was helped by Mickey Vann in the 2nd round when in trouble. Magee had the style for Hatton but not the workrate which was his ultimate undoing.

[Noxy]

I thought Hatton just scraped it but it was a tough tough night for him. Magee has a point to be fair as he picked Hatton off at times and landed some lovely counters. Hattons pressure won him it for me but I wouldn't argue the other way although I'd need to watch it again.

I pretty much saw it the same way. It was a tough fight but Hatton outworked him. About his book, what a read! I couldn’t put it down and finished it in a couple of days.

[Noxy]

Another thing that sticks in my mind from that fight is the way Magee came to the ring wearing those tricolor specs. It was a partisan crowd and he was the away fighter. It didn’t faze him though, he revelled in it.

[semtexreilly]

Apart from the first round knock down,Hatton won comfortably imo,ps read the mcgee book a few wks ago,couldn't put it down,best I've read in a good while

[Bigdogsnose]

I thought Hatton just scraped it but it was a tough tough night for him. Magee has a point to be fair as he picked Hatton off at times and landed some lovely counters. Hattons pressure won him it for me but I wouldn't argue the other way although I'd need to watch it again.

I pretty much saw it the same way. It was a tough fight but Hatton outworked him. About his book, what a read! I couldn’t put it down and finished it in a couple of days.

Best boxing book I've read. Jesus that boy has had some life.

[Bigdogsnose]

Gonna watch the fight myself at the weekend, but the replies so far pretty much confirm what I thought. By all accounts magee was too easy to outwork and the book gives you plenty of insight into why that was the case.

[Stuarty]

I thought Hatton just scraped it but it was a tough tough night for him. Magee has a point to be fair as he picked Hatton off at times and landed some lovely counters. Hattons pressure won him it for me but I wouldn't argue the other way although I'd need to watch it again.

I pretty much saw it the same way. It was a tough fight but Hatton outworked him. About his book, what a read! I couldn’t put it down and finished it in a couple of days.

I've just ordered a copy right there mate. Kept forgetting lol.

[Stuarty]

Another thing that sticks in my mind from that fight is the way Magee came to the ring wearing those tricolor specs. It was a partisan crowd and he was the away fighter. It didn’t faze him though, he revelled in it.

That's right He didn't give a fukk. Growing up where he did not much is gonna intimidate you I suppose...

[Taansend]

Thanks for reminding me. Going to see if I can find a copy while I'm here in Blighty.

As for the fight Magee started well but Hatton was a fair winner.

[Loynesy]

I was at the fight (16 years ago, where have they gone....). The posts above are pretty accurate. Magee caught Hatton well towards the end of the first, it was in between “flash” and “flush” type of knockdown, if that makes any sense.

Magee charged in through the second and had Ricky hurt but not in real danger. Perhaps Van.n was over zealous, but Magee was certainly going for it with elbows and needed some restraining.

From then on, it just slowly shifted momentum. I don’t have my points card to hand, and I haven’t watched it since, but it was a pretty clear Hatton win - not just for the Hattonites.

[thepocketrocket]

I was at the fight, and from what I remember I gave it to Hatton by two, but felt it was generous to Magee. The quality of Magee work contrasted with the pretty clumsy but active Hatton work. There were just too many round where Magee didn't do enough, and some flashes won't get you the rounds.

[Stuarty]

coincidentally this is being shown shortly on BN.... 2pm

[Coco]

I was at the fight (16 years ago, where have they gone....). The posts above are pretty accurate. Magee caught Hatton well towards the end of the first, it was in between “flash” and “flush” type of knockdown, if that makes any sense.

Magee charged in through the second and had Ricky hurt but not in real danger. Perhaps Van.n was over zealous, but Magee was certainly going for it with elbows and needed some restraining.

From then on, it just slowly shifted momentum. I don’t have my points card to hand, and I haven’t watched it since, but it was a pretty clear Hatton win - not just for the Hattonites.

I saw it the same, a bit like I saw JC v Hopkins, although that will be viewd as a contraversial statement by some!

[stujones]

Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.

B hop beat JC for me....and Dirrell was robbed vs Froch

[gilgamesh]

Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.

B hop beat JC for me....and Dirrell was robbed vs Froch

Nah. Dirrell ran like a p*ssy for the first 6 or so rounds against Froch. I'll give it to you that the rounds he won were more spectacular than the rounds that Froch had won when he finally decided to buckle down, and put some effort into his shots, but by then he'd already given the fight away.

In spite of his good showing over the 2nd half, I've never had an issue with Dirrell not getting that decision. He stank the joint out for half the fight so in my opinion he deserved what he got.

[Coco]

Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.

B hop beat JC for me....and Dirrell was robbed vs Froch

I had Dirrell ahead 8-4, Froch was chasing shadows and hitting fresh air all night.
Hatton always had a fantastic engine, an engine that Magee lacked, prob due to his smoking and drinking!

[jamamb]

scoring for bhop vs jc is terrible , ppl fall too easily for the 'bhop master boxer' thing and give him points for craftiness that wasnt there that night. jc made him curl into a ball.

[BigRed]

I read this the other week.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... d-champion

[banjo]

Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.

B hop beat JC for me....and Dirrell was robbed vs Froch

Nah. Dirrell ran like a p*ssy for the first 6 or so rounds against Froch. I'll give it to you that the rounds he won were more spectacular than the rounds that Froch had won when he finally decided to buckle down, and put some effort into his shots, but by then he'd already given the fight away.

In spite of his good showing over the 2nd half, I've never had an issue with Dirrell not getting that decision. He stank the joint out for half the fight so in my opinion he deserved what he got.

Same view as me as well.

[jamamb]

he was negative but a lot of rounds i still felt he was landing better despite that, i could see it go either way

never got the whole bhop beat jc thing though, joe outworked and vastly outlanded him, so many rounds in that fight hopkins was forced into a shell, getting hit, and obviously very uncomfortable, looked like he literally wanted to cry at times and tried to act to a dq

so much overrated ' craftiness' in that one, some ppl just think since its bhop he mustve been outscoring and outsmarting his man , but not that night, ppl need to be more observant and not judge so much on reputation

[thepocketrocket]

I had B-Hop beating JC....Another fight of quality over quantity.

The problem with that debate will always be that most people are very pro one form or another, so they see the fight as being one sided through that lens. A while ago I would have decried those mocking B-Hop's performance as know nothing idiots, but from their mindset that is their reality.

[jamamb]

what exactly was bhops quality? aside from the kd and wobbling joe in the 6th his shots really werent very clean, hurtful, or frequent. they didnt stop joe at all, didnt bust him up, etc....and joe landed way more

joes shots were also of enough quality to make hopkins ball and shell up, sprawl to the ground, nearly cry, complain constantly, and look for a dq. hop didnt like the heat at all and got massively outlanded. wasnt comfortable in there at all but joe was

ppl gifting him on his rep....i can usually see both sides but just cant see how hopkins got the better of that.