What next for Dave Allen?

[James9753]

After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

[Enlightened-One]

After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

[DrDuke]

He's just another journeyman. For now he's a solid one. In a few losses a value of a win over him will decline. He's now somewhat of late 80s Jesse Ferguson caliber. And his future is likely to be similar to Furguson's 90s.

[jamamb]

hes far worse then jesse ferguson, hes just a punch bag vs anyone decent

[littlepug]

Get some work ethic and get down to cruiser

[Enlightened-One]

Get some work ethic and get down to cruiser

You’re absolutely spot on!

It’s clear that Dave Allen competes whilst being pretty out of shape. Even when he’s weighed around the 230lbs mark, he looked like he could easily shift a fair bit of weight if he trained to improve his cardio.

He’s a nice enough bloke, but he clearly has no discipline or motivation to maintain his fitness levels or his weight.

A couple of months ago he was as much as 272lbs against David Howe and he looked horrible in that fight.

[littlepug]

Get some work ethic and get down to cruiser

You’re absolutely spot on!

It’s clear that Dave Allen competes whilst being pretty out of shape. Even when he’s weighed around the 230lbs mark, he looked like he could easily shift a fair bit of weight if he trained to improve his cardio.

He’s a nice enough bloke, but he clearly has no discipline or motivation to maintain his fitness levels or his weight.

A couple of months ago he was as much as 272lbs against David Howe and he looked horrible in that fight.

I bet you would see a lot of heavies able to make cruiser if they whipped themselves into shape, unfortunately the lure of a bit more cash and not having to make weight is enough to make them eat their way into the heavyweight division.

[3132DW]

He’ll fight another 2-3 Small Hall Shows - get back to winning record then he’ll get a step up on Matchroom show Oct/Nov.

[Enlightened-One]

He’ll fight another 2-3 Small Hall Shows - get back to winning record then he’ll get a step up on Matchroom show Oct/Nov.

I’m not sure if Dave Allen is with Matchroom anymore, as his name isn’t listed on their website.

He was told by Eddie Hearn prior to the Lenroy Thomas rematch that it was his last chance and the ‘White Rhino’ failed to win that bout. He delivered another sub par performance in that fight.

Also, in his next two subsequent bouts, against David Howe and Tony Yoka, he competed on fight cards that Eddie Hearn had no involvement in.

I could be wrong, who knows?

[Noxy]

He‘s still a name, he‘ll get fights ok. I think the question is whether he can go further than the local circuit. Possibly not, still good luck to him. He‘s a top bloke

[Boxerbeetle]

After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

[Enlightened-One]

After losing to Tony Yoka what's next for Dave Allen? I don't want him to take on a journeyman role already and has been in tough enough scraps with the likes of Ortiz, Whyte, Yoka and even Thomas.

How would he fare at British level against Sexton, H. Fury, Cornish, Lewison, Little, Akinlade etc? I think the likes of Joyce, Dubois and Gorman are all probably too much for him. Should he be fighting that level of opponent?

If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

[Boxerbeetle]

If he hasn’t already been dumped by Matchroom, he will be soon.

From now on, he’s going to be used as cannon fodder for novice prospects like Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce. He’s durable enough to survive a few rounds without posing any threat to their unblemished resumes.

On a side note, this thread should have really been posted to the British & Irish section.

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

Historical threads should indeed be moved to the history section. But there’s no reason why Dave Allen shouldn’t be discussed on CS - it’s not like he’s only ever fought at domestic level, he’s fought Ortiz & Whyte within the last 2 years. Who knows, maybe Wilder will face him next...

[Enlightened-One]

Why? Dave Allen is a boxer within the current scene, no reason why he needs to be discussed exclusively on the British forum.

He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

Historical threads should indeed be moved to the history section. But there’s no reason why Dave Allen shouldn’t be discussed on CS - it’s not like he’s only ever fought at domestic level, he’s fought Ortiz & Whyte within the last 2 years. Who knows, maybe Wilder will face him next...

So he’s only beaten three men during his last nine fights and recently losing to a journeyman and a four fight novice… and you think his name is relevant to the global scene? Mmm… OK.

I'll step away from this discussion and wish you a good day.

[Pukka Cheese]

Win a couple fights on small hall shows.
Fight a prospect for some £££...

Hopefully he is investing in property and leaves the sport with all brain cells intact... Im sure he would pick up work in boxing commentating etc seems like a nice lad.

[punchoutsb]

He’s a domestic level British fighter. His name is nor relevant to the current global scene.

It’s not the end of the world for Dave Allen’s name to be mentioned in this section of the forum… I really couldn’t care less (since I’ve already contributed to this thread several times), but there is a specific section of this forum catering to domestic level British fighters.

Other people’s threads get moved to the History section whenever they discuss fantasy fights between retired or deceased fighters on the Current Scene… and this is a very similar situation.

If people insist on posting threads of a historical nature or relating to domestic level British fighters to the Current Scene, then they may as well delete those sections of the forum… just saying.

Historical threads should indeed be moved to the history section. But there’s no reason why Dave Allen shouldn’t be discussed on CS - it’s not like he’s only ever fought at domestic level, he’s fought Ortiz & Whyte within the last 2 years. Who knows, maybe Wilder will face him next...

So he’s only beaten three men during his last nine fights and recently losing to a journeyman and a four fight novice… and you think his name is relevant to the global scene? Mmm… OK.

I'll step away from this discussion and wish you a good day.

"Current scene" not "global scene". There isn't specific levels of importance a fighter needs to reach in order to be allowed to be mentioned on the current scene.

[biglefthook]

He will always have 3-4 fights a year in the home corner at the small halls shows

I wish he would take it serious
Sign with steve goodwin and take it one fight at a time


After he fought ortiz there was a offer from Murphys boxing promtions who are based in Boston, usa

They offerd him a 3 year 12 fight deal

[chinarich]

Target the Area then English title in the first instance...

[James9753]

Target the Area then English title in the first instance...

Would be interested to see how he'd perform even then at that level. With Dubois controlling the Southern Area and English titles. I think he could definitely give Dubois rounds due to Allen's granite chin, but dubious as to whether or not he'd beat him. Although it would arguably be a step up from Tom Little. Midlands Area held by Kash Ali, which I think he could win. Northern Area title hasn't been contested for since 1987. So if he did aim for an Area title, Midlands one against Ali would probably be his best bet.

[chinarich]

Target the Area then English title in the first instance...

Would be interested to see how he'd perform even then at that level. With Dubois controlling the Southern Area and English titles. I think he could definitely give Dubois rounds due to Allen's granite chin, but dubious as to whether or not he'd beat him. Although it would arguably be a step up from Tom Little. Midlands Area held by Kash Ali, which I think he could win. Northern Area title hasn't been contested for since 1987. So if he did aim for an Area title, Midlands one against Ali would probably be his best bet.

I would say the Southern Area will be vacant soon as Dubois moves up, I see Allen around the Area / English title level, falling short at the British unless he has a weak opponent...