Top 15-20 heavyweights today

[James9753]

Who are your top 15-20 ranked heavyweight fighters of today?

[gilgamesh]

Champion: Vacant

1. Anthony Joshua (last fought: 3-31-2018)
2. Deontay Wilder (last fought: 3-3-2018)
3. Alexander Povetkin - (last fought: 3-31-2018)
4. Tyson Fury - (last fought: 6-9-2018)
5. Joseph Parker - (last fought: 3-31-2018)
6. Jarrell Miller - (last fought: 4-28-2018)
7. Luis Ortiz - (last fought: 3-3-2018)
8. Dillian Whyte - (last fought: 3-24-2018)
9. Carlos Takam - (last fought: 10-28-2017)
10. Tony Bellew - (last fought: 5-5-2018)

11. Andy Ruiz Jr. (last fought: 3-10-2018)
12. Dominic Breazeale (last fought: 11-4-2017)
13. Adam Kownacki - (last fought: 1-20-2018)
14. Agit Kabayel - (last fought: 4-21-2018)
15. Christian Hammer - (last fought: 12-15-2017)
16. Bryant Jennings - (last fought: 4-28-2018)
17. Hughie Fury - (last fought: 5-12-2018)
18. Gerald Washington - (last fought: 6-10-2018)
19. Lucas Browne - (last fought: 3-24-2018)
20. Charles Martin - (last fought: 7-18-2017)

[lazboy]

Sorry I’m going to be annoying I don’t have my own list but your list looks very decent. I’d maybe put Daniel Dubois in over Lucas Browne. I appreciate its early days but he looks good - looks much better than Brownes last outing.

Surprised you have Tyson Fury so high up also. He still needs to prove himself. Maybe a 12th for me.

[gilgamesh]

Sorry I’m going to be annoying I don’t have my own list but your list looks very decent. I’d maybe put Daniel Dubois in over Lucas Browne. I appreciate its early days but he looks good - looks much better than Brownes last outing.

Surprised you have Tyson Fury so high up also. He still needs to prove himself. Maybe a 12th for me.

Tyson's already been the Heavyweight Champion so he's already proven he CAN BE a top guy, but yeah he needs to do something meaningful to get back into the mix in a serious way right now. Even so though a fight between him and one of the boys at the top would be one of the bigger possible matchups.

Daniel Dubois will earn his spot in the rankings in due time. I don't like to rush things. He'll legitimately earn his ranking at some point within the next 6 to 8 months I'm sure.

[jamamb]

nathan gorman and martin bakole both have stronger records then dubois, just among the uk prospects. theyve both stopped fighters better then anyone dubois faced . and for comparison, nathan gorman also quickly destroyed dubois opponent dave howe, and bakole took a minute to blow out dubois 3rd round victim dl jones. not saying that means a great deal, but dubois really has been in there with guys there to be knocked out

but he is a big muscly black dude though, so that must count

[lazboy]

nathan gorman and martin bakole both have stronger records then dubois, just among the uk prospects. theyve both stopped fighters better then anyone dubois faced . and for comparison, nathan gorman also quickly destroyed dubois opponent dave howe, and bakole took a minute to blow out dubois 3rd round victim dl jones. not saying that means a great deal, but dubois really has been in there with guys there to be knocked out

but he is a big muscly black dude though, so that must count

Never heard of them. Seen dubious though and he looks good. You probably automatically hate him because of his similarity of name to golovkin.

[jamamb]

dont hate him at all, ggg has nothing to do with this thread

it just shows the effect of hype though. ppl focus so much on dubois when there are other uk hw prospects with clearly superior records who also blast through the low level opponents dubois has gotten big hype for stopping

[Ruthless-RKO]

Why hasn’t Breazeale fought this year?

[Ruthless-RKO]

dont hate him at all, ggg has nothing to do with this thread

it just shows the effect of hype though. ppl focus so much on dubois when there are other uk hw prospects with clearly superior records who also blast through the low level opponents dubois has gotten big hype for stopping

Like Joyce

[jamamb]

breazeale has said hes got a summer fight with wilder, maybe hes been on the shelf while his side waited to see what happened with an aj fight

[gilgamesh]

dont hate him at all, ggg has nothing to do with this thread

it just shows the effect of hype though. ppl focus so much on dubois when there are other uk hw prospects with clearly superior records who also blast through the low level opponents dubois has gotten big hype for stopping

Like Joyce

Yep Joyce would rank ahead of Dubois at the moment for me. His most recent win was impressive, and was against a somewhat meaningful opponent. Meaningful for his level of Pro experience at least.

[lazboy]

dont hate him at all, ggg has nothing to do with this thread

it just shows the effect of hype though. ppl focus so much on dubois when there are other uk hw prospects with clearly superior records who also blast through the low level opponents dubois has gotten big hype for stopping

I guess that’s a fair point as i don’t know much about the uk domestic scene but have been able to see relatively popular YouTube videos of dubious - and he has looked good, of course level of opposition needs to be factored, however, still looks good.

[jamamb]

people get all excited watching highlights of dubois brutally koing a guy like aj carter, and blasting out dave howe right away

but for perspective, aj carer is one of just 2 stoppage victims for 20 fight kamil sokolowski, and aj carter was badly hurt by a jab from another guy who knocked him out. total glass chin

same for dave 'lie down' howe


dubois certainly has good potential no doubt, but i really feel like hes been matched very flattering and that there isnt nearly as much distance between him and guys like gorman/bakole as a lot of ppl think. to me its much too soon to be ranking him in worldwide top 20s.

[lazboy]

Yes he’s definitely one to get excited about - put him in with the Lucas Browne that showed up for Whyte. He’ll beat him.

[jamamb]

yes although i think quite a number would beat that browne, more then 20 for sure

[lazboy]

Alright I don’t know anyone else - get rid of Browne. Put someone in that could beat both Browne and DDD.

[Pukka Cheese]

18. Gerald Washington - (last fought: 6-10-2018)
19. Lucas Browne - (last fought: 3-24-2018)
20. Charles Martin - (last fought: 7-18-2017)

I think alot of prospects would beat these 3 and Bellew not a heavyweight imo..

Joyce, Hrgovic, Gorman & maybe Yoka are surely ahead of Dubois right now...

[gilgamesh]

18. Gerald Washington - (last fought: 6-10-2018)
19. Lucas Browne - (last fought: 3-24-2018)
20. Charles Martin - (last fought: 7-18-2017)

I think alot of prospects would beat these 3 and Bellew not a heavyweight imo..

Joyce, Hrgovic, Gorman & maybe Yoka are surely ahead of Dubois right now...

I think a lot would beat them too, but as of this moment they don't have better resumes. "I think so's" don't get you ranked. Results do.

[gilgamesh]

I've seen a lot of criticism of my rankings, but I haven't seen anyone else's rankings.

[Evander]

Fury at 4 I'm not so sure of.

[Lackeos]

Tyson Fury
Antony Joshua
Deontay Wilder
Alexander Povetkin
Luis Ortiz
Kubrat Pulev
Joseph Parker
Jarrell Miller
Dillian Whyte
Carlos Takam
Christian Hammer
Dominic Breazeale
Marco Huck
Hughie Fury
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Bryant Jennings
Agit Kabayel
Dereck Chisora
Mariusz Wach
Johann Duhaupas
Erkan Teper
Charles Martin
Adam Kownacki
Alexander Dimitrenko
Manuel Charr

[gilgamesh]

Fury at 4 I'm not so sure of.

Where would you have him?

[KiwiRider]

breazeale has said hes got a summer fight with wilder, maybe hes been on the shelf while his side waited to see what happened with an aj fight

Yeah I think he is waiting on the Wilder fight. No one is rushing to call him out, which is a shame because I think he needs to keep busy. I hope to see him come out to fight Wilder I'm the shape of his life. I'm always a bit peeved at him, because I think he could be so much more than he is, with a little more effort and dedication.

[gregregegg]

Just gunna leave it to 12 HWs gets a bit tricky after that, more intrested in ability than resume.

1 joshua
2 wilder
3 Parker
4 Dillian
5 ortiz
6 Povetkin
7 Fury
8 Miller
9 takem
10/11 joyce/pulev (cant decide whos higher because there at such different points in carrers.)
12 dom braziel.

I consider bellew a cruiser wieght still but would slot in around 10 somewhere. and if we are counting cruisers i think usyk could fight at heavyweight and give the entire list some problems, hopefully he will after his next fight.

[DrDuke]

1. Joshua
2. Povetkin
3. T. Fury
4. Wilder
5. Parker
6. Miller
7. Ortiz
8. Breazeale
9. Whyte
10. Pulev
11. Takam
12. Bellew
13. Kownacki
14. Kabayel
15. Hammer
16. H. Fury
17. Martin
18. Ruiz Jr
19. Jennings
20. Duhaupas