Construct a Great Heavyweight from 90's Scrap Parts

[keithmoonhangover]

So, can we build a great heavyweight by using attributes from guys that never won the lineal heavyweight championship.

Only one attribute from each boxer.

Boxer must have been active in the 1990's.

Jab:
Cross:
Hook:
Uppercut:
Body punching:
Foot movement:
Head movement:
Punching power:
Punch resistance:
Determination:
Hand speed:
Stamina:

[HomicideHenry]

Jab: Larry Holmes
Cross:
Hook: Tommy Morrison
Uppercut: Razor Ruddock
Body punching:
Foot movement: The Zev
Head movement:
Punching power: Ike Ibeabuchi
Punch resistance: David Tua
Determination: Ray Mercer
Hand speed: Herbie Hide
Stamina:

Those categories in bold I'm not sure who would be the best in that particular department.

[Boxing Writer]

Jab: Ray Mercer
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Tommy Morrison
Uppercut: Ike Ibeabuchi
Body punching: Andrew Golota
Foot movement: Chris Byrd
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Chris Byrd
Hand speed: Chris Byrd/Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

[DrDuke]

Jab: Bruce Seldon
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Tommy Morrison
Uppercut: Donovan Ruddock
Body punching: Tommy Morrison
Foot movement: Chris Byrd
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Ray Mercer
Hand speed: Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

[Boxing Writer]

Two guys mentioned Ray Mercer in determination category. I strongly disagree: 1) I consider determination not only as a quality in the fight, but the desire of fighter to always keep himself in excellent shape (like Mayweather, Hopkins, Wlad). Mercer definitely wasn't te guy, who always kept himself in shape. 2) Mercer was very determined in some fights (Morrison, Holyfield, Lewis), but sometimes he was extremely lethargic (both fights against Ferguson, fight against Wilson).

[DrDuke]

Two guys mentioned Ray Mercer in determination category. I strongly disagree: 1) I consider determination not only as a quality in the fight, but the desire of fighter to always keep himself in excellent shape (like Mayweather, Hopkins, Wlad). Mercer definitely wasn't te guy, who always kept himself in shape. 2) Mercer was very determined in some fights (Morrison, Holyfield, Lewis), but sometimes he was extremely lethargic (both figts against Ferguson, figt against Wilson).

If we take your definition, you're right. But I've put only an ability to stay strong in an actual fight, not the desire to keep fit from one fight to another. So I've chosen Mercer. In my opinion, Morrison fight is a one of the greatest comebacks ever. Mercer took terrific stuff, the variety of punches, Tyson-like combos from body to head. And he was able to return even more brutal stuff.

[pound per pound]

So, can we build a great heavyweight by using attributes from guys that never won the lineal heavyweight championship.

Only one attribute from each boxer.

Boxer must have been active in the 1990's.

Jab: Seldon
Cross: Lewis
Hook: Morrison
Uppercut: Bowe
Body punching: Morrison
Foot movement: Donald
Head movement: Byrd
Punching power: Tua
Punch resistance: Ibeabuchi
Determination: Holyfield
Hand speed: C. Sanders
Stamina: Ibeabuchi


Others not listed

Size and Reach: Lewis
Combinations: Bowe
Ring IQ: Lewis


Not listing the Klitschko's as their best stuff as post the 1990's.

[DrDuke]

So, can we build a great heavyweight by using attributes from guys that never won the lineal heavyweight championship.

Only one attribute from each boxer.

Boxer must have been active in the 1990's.

Jab: Seldon
Cross: Lewis
Hook: Morrison
Uppercut: Bowe
Body punching: Morrison
Foot movement: Donald
Head movement: Byrd
Punching power: Tua
Punch resistance: Ibeabuchi
Determination: Holyfield
Hand speed: C. Sanders
Stamina: Ibeabuchi


Others not listed

Size and Reach: Lewis
Combinations: Bowe
Ring IQ: Lewis


Not listing the Klitschko's as their best stuff as post the 1990's.

This should have been without lineal champs.

[Boxing Writer]

So, can we build a great heavyweight by using attributes from guys that never won the lineal heavyweight championship.

Only one attribute from each boxer.

Boxer must have been active in the 1990's.

Jab: Seldon
Cross: Lewis
Hook: Morrison
Uppercut: Bowe
Body punching: Morrison
Foot movement: Donald
Head movement: Byrd
Punching power: Tua
Punch resistance: Ibeabuchi
Determination: Holyfield
Hand speed: C. Sanders
Stamina: Ibeabuchi


Others not listed

Size and Reach: Lewis
Combinations: Bowe
Ring IQ: Lewis


Not listing the Klitschko's as their best stuff as post the 1990's.

Lineal champions (Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe) shouldn't be included here. Good call on Larry Donald and Corrie Sanders though.

[Boxing Writer]

Oh, sorry, I'll change my list, because I missed this part:

Only one attribute from each boxer.

Jab: Ray Mercer
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Tommy Morrison
Uppercut: Donovan Ruddock
Body punching: Andrew Golota
Foot movement: Larry Donald
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Ross Puritty
Hand speed: Corrie Sanders/Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

[Boxing Writer]

Jab: Bruce Seldon
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Tommy Morrison
Uppercut: Donovan Ruddock
Body punching: Tommy Morrison
Foot movement: Chris Byrd
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Ray Mercer
Hand speed: Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

Good call on Seldon. Mercer had terrific jab, he outjabbed much bigger Lewis and marked up Wlad's face even at anvanced age (41). But he was still outjabbed and outboxed by 42-years-old Larry Holmes. Can't remember Seldon losing the war of jabs. But then again, he never faced Larry Holmes.

[Ambling Alp II]

Jab: Ray Mercer
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Razor Ruddock
Uppercut:
Body punching: Golota
Foot movement: Larry Donald
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Jessie Ferguson
Hand speed: Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

Hated to put Ibeabuchi in for just one fight, but couldn’t think of anyone else. Surprised everyone is putting Ruddock for his uppercut instead of his left hook. Is that because we can’t think of anyone else for uppercut?

[Boxing Writer]

Jab: Ray Mercer
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Razor Ruddock
Uppercut:
Body punching: Golota
Foot movement: Larry Donald
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Jessie Ferguson
Hand speed: Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

Hated to put Ibeabuchi in for just one fight, but couldn’t think of anyone else. Surprised everyone is putting Ruddock for his uppercut instead of his left hook. Is that because we can’t think of anyone else for uppercut?

The funny thing here is that ALL lineal heavyweight champions, that fought in 90s, had great or very good uppercuts except of Shannon Briggs. Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer and Lewis all had at least very good uppercuts. And out of all other fighters of 90s there weren't too many with good uppercuts. Ruddock and Ibeabuchi had great half-hooks/half-uppercuts, but as for clean uppercuts? It's hard to tell. Morrison, Cooper, Sanders had pretty good uppercuts. I'd probably go with Bert Copper.

[DrDuke]

Jab: Ray Mercer
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Razor Ruddock
Uppercut:
Body punching: Golota
Foot movement: Larry Donald
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Jessie Ferguson
Hand speed: Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

Hated to put Ibeabuchi in for just one fight, but couldn’t think of anyone else. Surprised everyone is putting Ruddock for his uppercut instead of his left hook. Is that because we can’t think of anyone else for uppercut?

The funny thing here is that ALL lineal heavyweight champions, that fought in 90s, had great or very good uppercuts except of Shannon Briggs. Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer and Lewis all had at least very good uppercuts. And out of all other fighters of 90s there weren't too many with good uppercuts. Ruddock and Ibeabuchi had great half-hooks/half-uppercuts, but as for clean uppercuts? It's hard to tell. Morrison, Cooper, Sanders had pretty good uppercuts. I'd probably go with Bert Copper.

Morrison had good uppercut for sure. He could place it well in combinations, going from body to head.

[keithmoonhangover]

Oh, sorry, I'll change my list, because I missed this part:

Only one attribute from each boxer.

Jab: Ray Mercer
Cross: Tim Witherspoon
Hook: Tommy Morrison
Uppercut: Donovan Ruddock
Body punching: Andrew Golota
Foot movement: Larry Donald
Head movement: Chris Byrd
Punching power: David Tua
Punch resistance: Oliver McCall
Determination: Ross Puritty
Hand speed: Corrie Sanders/Herbie Hide
Stamina: Ike Ibeabuchi

I think this. Is the winner