Tony Bellew predicts: AJ will smash Alexander Povetkin

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Tony Bellew predicts: AJ will smash Alexander Povetkin

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"Tony Bellew predicts: Anthony Joshua will smash Alexander Povetkin"

I don’t think there’s a chance of Alexander Povetkin not making it to the ring to face Joshua. Simply because, money talks and he’s backed by some wealthy people.

It doesn’t matter how many tests Povetkin fails, he’ll always be allowed to continue. That’s the sad state of boxing.

Not many people will admit to that in boxing, but I will. It’s disgusting, but that’s the way it is. I couldn’t say Povetkin was on drugs against David Price because that’s the most vulnerable I’ve ever seen him.

He’s a completely different man when he’s on drugs. I have no problem saying, I would absolutely annihilate Povetkin if he wasn’t on drugs. But if he’s on drugs I haven’t got a hope. That’s the harsh reality.

Joshua has proved he can navigate his way through a 12-round fight without any hiccups. Anthony Joshua will resume normal service against Povetkin, return to being the guy who goes in there looking for the knockout. He’s the guy who goes in there and takes the gamble looking for the knockout.

Like I’ve said before, 2018’s Mike Tyson. He goes in, gets rid of you and goes home. I think that’s the guy we’ll see against Povetkin in September. He shuts a lot of people up who clamour to say his stamina is off, he can’t stick to a game plan.

He did that against a fellow world champion in Joseph Parker in March. Now, he will want to get back to his usual self. Mr. Excitement.

That’s what everyone turns up to see when they watch heavyweight boxing. No one wants to see a 12-round match, two fighters playing chess. They turn up to see blood, guts and someone going to sleep.

Joshua has done that time and time again, and I believe he’ll deliver that when he faces Povetkin. I think he’ll absolutely obliterate him. Smash him in three or four rounds at most. Price was five seconds away from ending Povetkin. It was just that the bell saved him.

He was doing a backstroke in a boxing ring, so that tells you how hard Price hits and how vulnerable Povetkin is. He still had a heavy leg when he came out the next round, but it didn’t work out for Price.

Povetkin is a different man when he’s on drugs and I say this because I know sparring partners who have been in his camp. They have openly said to me, ‘he’s a ferocious animal, when he’s on drugs’ but they see and feel the difference sparring him when he isn’t on them.


Thoughts? :confused:
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Bellew just keeps on talking........ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


I don't think AJ will 'SMASH' Povetkin.

Both will be cautious I believe. Povetkin is not a stupid boxer, he knows how to box. I don't think think he took Price 100% serious and he suffered the consequence of that when he did his 'backstroke'..
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One thing I will say for Bellew, he’s one of the few people in boxing who’s happy to openly call out the cheats for what they are. Shame more can’t follow his lead instead of always sweeping it under the carpet.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 11:09 Bellew just keeps on talking........ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


I don't think AJ will 'SMASH' Povetkin.

Both will be cautious I believe. Povetkin is not a stupid boxer, he knows how to box. I don't think think he took Price 100% serious and he suffered the consequence of that when he did his 'backstroke'..
I agree with pretty much everything you say, except for what occurred during the Povetkin-Price bout, since I successfully predicted the Russian's struggle against the Liverpudlian.

For me it was a simple combination of people underestimating David Price and overestimating Alexander Povetkin. Whereas I expected the Russian to look very ordinary against the Brit!

If Povetkin really did underestimate Price, then that looks bad on him, because losing that banana skin fight could have cost him a world title shot and also the huge payday that accompanies it.

Is it possible that Alexander Povetkin is simply a fighter that cannot compete under PED testing?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 11:26 Is it possible that Alexander Povetkin is simply a fighter that cannot compete under PED testing?
When would you say he started taking PED's? Since he started as a pro?

Was he not tested for the Wlad fight? Any other fights?

These are all unanswered questions, which i doubt we'll get an answer to.

He's obviously not going to be as aggressive but he's still a smart fighter.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 11:33
Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 11:26 Is it possible that Alexander Povetkin is simply a fighter that cannot compete under PED testing?
When would you say he started taking PED's? Since he started as a pro?

Was he not tested for the Wlad fight? Any other fights?

These are all unanswered questions, which i doubt we'll get an answer to.

He's obviously not going to be as aggressive but he's still a smart fighter.
I recall there being a huge stumbling block between the Klitschko and Povetkin camps as to which organisation would administer the drug testing for their bout, with the Ukraine wanting NADA and the Russian wanting RUSADA.

I believe a compromise was eventually made by both camps, whereby Klitschko was tested by NADA and Povetkin tested by RUSADA.

The Klitschko-Povetkin bout took place during 2013, which I believe was at a time when RUSADA wasn’t fully WADA compliant and shortly before the state-sponsored doping scandal (resulting in Russian athletes being banned from the Olympics).

We already know the events that transpired when Povetkin was tested by VADA when training for both the Wilder and Stiverne bouts.
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Povetkin has got a good resume. After AJ, he has the best resume for active HW's.. Good thing with him is, he can box. He's not ALL about power.
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The Heavy favorite is gonna win? Wow...way to go out on a limb there champ :lol:
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Although I appreciate Bellew's stance on drugs, I don't see why he feels the need to gush over Joshua so much.

I know they are pals, but it gets a bit brokeback mountain at times.
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keirw wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 12:28 Although I appreciate Bellew's stance on drugs, I don't see why he feels the need to gush over Joshua so much.
especially given that Joshua took a suspiciously long window between Olympic gold and pro debut, in which time he miraculously added a huge amount of very lean muscle, whilst also training as a boxer fulltime... i may ask tobyh to briefly clarify the likelihood of this happening without PED's......
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Bellew reckons he would annihilate a clean Povetkin...



Ok.
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keirw wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 12:28 Although I appreciate Bellew's stance on drugs, I don't see why he feels the need to gush over Joshua so much.

I know they are pals, but it gets a bit brokeback mountain at times.
Tony Bellew is occasionally a pundit for Sky Sports, headlines Sky Box Office PPV events and is also promoted by Eddie Hearn.

Anthony Joshua is occasionally a pundit for Sky Sports, headlines Sky Box Office PPV events and is also promoted by Eddie Hearn.

Tony Bellew and Anthony Joshua are not rivals and they won't ever fight each other, so there's no need for them to engage in trash talk.

In fact, it's mutually beneficial for both men to support and help market each others reputations/careers.

Do you need any more reasons? :lol:
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Tony Bellew's just looking for employment once his career's over so greasing up to AJ and Eddie Hearn is obviously his best chance at it.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 18:44
keirw wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 12:28 Although I appreciate Bellew's stance on drugs, I don't see why he feels the need to gush over Joshua so much.

I know they are pals, but it gets a bit brokeback mountain at times.
Tony Bellew is occasionally a pundit for Sky Sports, headlines Sky Box Office PPV events and is also promoted by Eddie Hearn.

Anthony Joshua is occasionally a pundit for Sky Sports, headlines Sky Box Office PPV events and is also promoted by Eddie Hearn.

Tony Bellew and Anthony Joshua are not rivals and they won't ever fight each other, so there's no need for them to engage in trash talk.

In fact, it's mutually beneficial for both men to support and help market each others reputations/careers.

Do you need any more reasons? :lol:
I know they are in the same camp, but the way Bellew talks about him is cringeworthy.

I get the impression that he has posters of him in his bedroom. He probably looks at them while he does his missus from behind.
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keirw wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 02:08
Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 18:44
keirw wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 12:28 Although I appreciate Bellew's stance on drugs, I don't see why he feels the need to gush over Joshua so much.

I know they are pals, but it gets a bit brokeback mountain at times.
Tony Bellew is occasionally a pundit for Sky Sports, headlines Sky Box Office PPV events and is also promoted by Eddie Hearn.

Anthony Joshua is occasionally a pundit for Sky Sports, headlines Sky Box Office PPV events and is also promoted by Eddie Hearn.

Tony Bellew and Anthony Joshua are not rivals and they won't ever fight each other, so there's no need for them to engage in trash talk.

In fact, it's mutually beneficial for both men to support and help market each others reputations/careers.

Do you need any more reasons? :lol:
I know they are in the same camp, but the way Bellew talks about him is cringeworthy.

I get the impression that he has posters of him in his bedroom. He probably looks at them while he does his missus from behind.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :TU:
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African Monkey wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 21:13 Tony Bellew's just looking for employment once his career's over so greasing up to AJ and Eddie Hearn is obviously his best chance at it.
Probably become an exec at Matchroom.. Na.. He'll be forever employed by Sky Sports, as long as he doesn't use his mouth and go over the top.
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I make no comment about the drug issue which has been done to death with regard to Povetkin, but I do think that at 37 or is it 38 now, Sasha is not the formidable fighter he once was.

The only thing that might give me some encouragement if I were hoping for a Povetkin win, is that going by his performance against Takam, maybe Joshua isn't as comfortable boxing the shorter opponent. (I'm aware the Vityaz man is 2" taller than Takam but still ...)

I'm inclined to think Joshua will start very cautiously like he did against Parker, but start to turn up the pressure after the first 2-4 rounds and stop Povetkin in about 5. I wouldn't be expecting an easy win over the Povetkin of just a few years ago.

Bellew may be trying to ingraciate himself but it's clear he genuinely does rate Joshua..
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Counter-puncher wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 12:35
keirw wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 12:28 Although I appreciate Bellew's stance on drugs, I don't see why he feels the need to gush over Joshua so much.
especially given that Joshua took a suspiciously long window between Olympic gold and pro debut, in which time he miraculously added a huge amount of very lean muscle, whilst also training as a boxer fulltime... i may ask tobyh to briefly clarify the likelihood of this happening without PED's......
Nice, well researched, absolute non-fact there. He looked more shredded because he lost weight. He was pushed 18 stone at the Olympics and weighed 16st 4lbs for his debut... That's what a years boxing training can do
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