Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 14 Jul 2018, 11:52

Pacquiao - Decision
17
43%
Pacquiao - KO/TKO
7
18%
DRAW
1
3%
Matthysse - KO/TKO
11
28%
Matthysse - Decision
4
10%
 
Total votes: 40

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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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It's all kicking off for TMT isn't it
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SenorPipino wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 00:30 There's going to be a ton of live boxing on it.

A boxing studio show will be developed.

Includes the full library of classic fights owned by ESPN and Top Rank.

So yeah, $50 a year isn't a bad deal..
https://www.BS.com/terence-cra ... pp--127017

Just read myself..

Yeh, full library of fights is decent. Kind of like Box-natiom in the UK.. but there's loads of fights they don't own the rights to..
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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SenorPipino wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 10:23
jpspice wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 22:44 lot of ring savvy between these two guys. I think it will be great, especially minus all of the ridiculous hype!

Why isn't there going to be ridiculous hype?
Your right, probably will be. Will it be PPV?
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jpspice wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 21:38
SenorPipino wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 10:23
jpspice wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 22:44 lot of ring savvy between these two guys. I think it will be great, especially minus all of the ridiculous hype!

Why isn't there going to be ridiculous hype?
Your right, probably will be. Will it be PPV?
Will be ESPN+.. a new monthly subscription streaming service that will set you back $4.99 a month.

Khan-Lo Greco will be the first..

I'm hearing that they're going to have a library of classic fights from Top Rank and ESPN on there too.. so might be worth it.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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jpspice wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 21:38
SenorPipino wrote: 05 Apr 2018, 10:23
jpspice wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 22:44 lot of ring savvy between these two guys. I think it will be great, especially minus all of the ridiculous hype!

Why isn't there going to be ridiculous hype?
Your right, probably will be. Will it be PPV?

With Roach out, the ridiculous hype should be kept to a minimum. At least until De La Hoya opens his mouth.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Anyone complaining about this fight is a dickhead. It's going to be fun and it will do very well. I'd love to see Manny put together a couple more big dollar fights before it's done and show Arum how much of a C he is.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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caldo2025 wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:18 Anyone complaining about this fight is a dickhead. It's going to be fun and it will do very well. I'd love to see Manny put together a couple more big dollar fights before it's done and show Arum how much of a C he is.
Pacquiao wasn't exactly a pauper under Arum.

One of the richest fighters in boxing history.

But everybody always wants more.

With Pacquiao going the promotional route on his own (if he really is clear of TR) we'll see how he fares.

It's not an easy thing to be a fighter and also promote your own fights. Especially when you're not business savvy.

Just ask Oscar De La Hoya. He tried it for a short spell and gladly came running back to Arum.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Might have a few quid on a Lucas KO depending on the odds. Fancy Pac to take it on points but might be worth a punt if the odds are high.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:43 Might have a few quid on a Lucas KO depending on the odds. Fancy Pac to take it on points but might be worth a punt if the odds are high.
You didn't ask but you shall still receive Stuarty.

No prop odds have been posted at the books yet, but Pacquiao has opened a straight out -230/+170 favorite over Matthysse.

I'll certainly keep you abreast of odds on a Matthysee win by KO when it's released.

Since Matthysse would only be expected to win by KO and not decision, I would guess that the odds on a stoppage would be about +250.

In the meantime, wager your quid wisely.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 23:25
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:43 Might have a few quid on a Lucas KO depending on the odds. Fancy Pac to take it on points but might be worth a punt if the odds are high.
You didn't ask but you shall still receive Stuarty.

No prop odds have been posted at the books yet, but Pacquiao has opened a straight out -230/+170 favorite over Matthysse.

I'll certainly keep you abreast of odds on a Matthysee win by KO when it's released.

Since Matthysse would only be expected to win by KO and not decision, I would guess that the odds on a stoppage would be about +250.

In the meantime, wager your quid wisely.
Cheers mate :TU: I don't bet big when I gamble so it would only be a paltry few quid but I'll keep an eye out.
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Freddie Roach 'hurt' by Manny Pacquiao snub after split

In a brief statement, Roach said his 16-year association with former world champion Pacquiao had been terminated ahead of the 39-year-old fighter's upcoming world title fight with Lucas Matthysse.

Roach said he wished Pacquiao well for the future but had been "hurt" after learning of the Filipino's decision to axe him indirectly.

"Manny and I had a great run for 15 years - longer than most marriages and certainly a rarity for boxing," said Roach.

"I wouldn't trade any of it. Inside the boxing ring and the political ring, I wish Manny nothing but the best.


"I would be lying if I didn't say I wasn't hurt that he didn't contact me personally about his decision, but the great times we enjoyed together far outweigh that."
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After the Horn fight Roach publicaly complained that he hadn't been paid and that Pac hasn't contacted him about it.

What makes him think that Pacquiao would call him when he no longer wanted his services?

Outside the ring, Pacquiao is obviously a guy who doesn't enjoy a confrontation.
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SenorPipino wrote: 14 Apr 2018, 06:25 After the Horn fight Roach publicaly complained that he hadn't been paid and that Pac hasn't contacted him about it.

What makes him think that Pacquiao would call him when he no longer wanted his services?

Outside the ring, Pacquiao is obviously a guy who doesn't enjoy a confrontation.
Imagine being a Filipino and one of your senators (and a future presidential candidate) isn’t man enough to speak to one of his closest allies and an employee of more than sixteen years to inform him of being sacked?
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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I've always been a fan of Matthysse but his chances here are slim.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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This fight will show what Pacquiao has left in the tank. He has clearly slipped the last couple of years.

Matthysse is a live dog in this fight. A very dangerous bout for Pacquiao at this stage in his career. Matthysse can crack and I think he may have enough to get the win. Pacquiao likes a brawl and Matthysse will be more than up for a tear up here.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Pacquiao v Matthysse: Tickets go on sale as trio of undercard title bouts are confirmed

The Axiata Arena's ticketing office went online with myticket.asia or through the direct link here. For other inquiries, parties can contact the Axiata offices: +603 8605-0195.

The Axiata Arena ticketing office has been receiving a lot of inquiries regarding ticket sales since April when Pacquiao and Matthysse announced their fight in press conferences in Manila and Kuala Lumpur. As of press time yesterday, a large number of tickets have already been sold.

Ticket prices are pegged at $5,000, $2,000, $1,000, $500, $350, $250 and $125. Corporate box rooms are also available.

The most exciting boxing event in the last four decades unfolds in Malaysia featuring four world championships, including Pacquiao's bid to win the World Boxing Association's welterweight crown against Matthysse, the dangerous Argentine champion.

The 16,000-seat venue is expected to be sold out as MP Promotions Kuala Lumpur (MPKL) has assembled an all-star cast of fighters from all over the world, from China to India, to South Africa, Mexico among others.

The long wait for the ticket release was timed well in order for the fans to avail of huge discounts. The new Malaysian government of Tun Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad, the recently-elected Prime Minister, eliminated the old GST or the goods and service tax. The six percent (6%) GST was previously implemented on goods and services.

Pacquiao, the only eight-division and 10-time world boxing champion, is also the promoter of this fight with his MPKL company trying to equal, if not surpass the greatest boxing event in this country since Muhammad Ali and Joe Bugner fought in 1975.

"This is what we have been waiting for. Let's get on with the fights," said Pacquiao, who has already logged in more than 20 rounds of sparring.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - Undercard Information

The coverage fo the "Fight of Champions" showdown between WBA "regular" welterweight beltholder Lucas Matthysse and challenger Manny Pacquiao is already pegged at 170 countries and is fast shaping up to become a blockbuster of an event - now dubbed as the "World Cup of Boxing."

From Asia to South America, to Europe and Africa, to the Middle East, Asia Pacifica, Oceania and the Far East and the Caribbean, fans all over the world will be treated to a whole day of sports festivities on July 15 starting in the morning and throughout the afternoon.

The Pacquiao vs. Matthysse event will be beamed live at 12 noon from the Axiata Arena in Kuala Lumpur (around 8 PM, July 14 in the US and Mexico) via satellite.

With World Cup fever undeniably in the minds of many, boxing also has its version of the World Cup, with the Philippines and Argentina vying for the World Boxing Association belt in the main event.

Other championship bouts presented by Pacquiao's promotional company, MP Promotions, include the WBA world title matches between Venezuela and China, (Carlos Canizales vs. Lu Bin for the WBA light flyweight belt), as well as South Africa (Moruti Mthalane) against Pakistan (Muhammad Waseem) for the International Boxing Federation flyweight crown.

In the main supporting bout, it will be Mexico against the Philippines as the WBA, through president Gilberto Mendoza Jr. and ratings chairman Jose Oliver, has just sanctioned the fight between Mexican Edivaldo Ortega (26-1-1) and Jhack Tepora (21-0, 16 KOs) of the Philippines for the WBA featherweight title.

Host Malaysia will feature its best fighters Muhammad Farkhan, Theena Thayalan and Alman Abu Baker battling fighters from Thailand and 2 Indian boxers, respectively, in the undercards stacked deep by the organizers, who are trying to impress a worldwide audience.

Other countries represented in the event include Australia and Japan.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Matthysse Receives His Money, Heads To Malaysia on Tuesday

It took longer than promised but Golden Boy Promotions and Lucas Matthysse have received their funds from the organizers of the July 14th event in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

So with that said, Matthysse and his crew will be flying out there for his scheduled date with Manny Pacquiao on Tuesday.

"We have a fight, everything's great, everything's perfect," confirmed Eric Gomez, the president of Golden Boy, on Monday afternoon ."They're flying out tomorrow, we're looking forward to it. Lucas is ready and he's ready to defend his title against a legend."


The past few weeks this promotion was in limbo as deadlines passed for money to arrive to Golden Boy. Adding to that, there have been dozens of crirculating stories regarding the possibility of the event being postponed to a later date.

But all's well that ends well.

"The fights on - that's the important thing - Lucas is very happy. It's a dream for him to fight against Pacquiao. There were a few bumps in the lead up to the fight but everything's been cleared up and we're happy that the fights on and it's going to happen. It's going to be a great fight," said Gomez.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Enlightened-One wrote: 24 Apr 2018, 05:45
SenorPipino wrote: 14 Apr 2018, 06:25 After the Horn fight Roach publicaly complained that he hadn't been paid and that Pac hasn't contacted him about it.

What makes him think that Pacquiao would call him when he no longer wanted his services?

Outside the ring, Pacquiao is obviously a guy who doesn't enjoy a confrontation.
Imagine being a Filipino and one of your senators (and a future presidential candidate) isn’t man enough to speak to one of his closest allies and an employee of more than sixteen years to inform him of being sacked?
Yeah, I'm sure all that hardwork and charity he's done for his people doesn't matter because of this. :roll:

Imagine you ever writing a good post.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 05:40
Enlightened-One wrote: 24 Apr 2018, 05:45
SenorPipino wrote: 14 Apr 2018, 06:25 After the Horn fight Roach publicaly complained that he hadn't been paid and that Pac hasn't contacted him about it.

What makes him think that Pacquiao would call him when he no longer wanted his services?

Outside the ring, Pacquiao is obviously a guy who doesn't enjoy a confrontation.
Imagine being a Filipino and one of your senators (and a future presidential candidate) isn’t man enough to speak to one of his closest allies and an employee of more than sixteen years to inform him of being sacked?
Yeah, I'm sure all that hardwork and charity he's done for his people doesn't matter because of this. :roll:

Imagine you ever writing a good post.
Isn’t it kind of funny that a bigoted serial adulterer like Manny Pacquiao, who tried to avoid paying taxes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars to both the US and Philippine governments, is being portrayed as some sort of obscenely saintly individual that lives an altruistic and virtuous lifestyle? :lol:

The sort of money he’s giving to charity, as a PR stunt to enhance his own image, is probably loose change in comparison to the unpaid taxes he still owes. Perhaps his charitable exploits is simply a ploy to distract people from this huge debt he still owes?

It’s not as if you can undermine my claims about Manny’s tax evasion situation, being a bigot, his historical track record of being a serial adulterer or the way he mis-treated Freddie Roach.

Facts don’t care about your opinions or feelings.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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The $2 million owed Matthysse is now in escrow, meeting Monday's deadline.

That means the fight, burdened by constant rumors of financial chaos and possible cancellation, will go ahead a week from Saturday in Malaysia.

Still nothing firm on television plans in the US but it appears it will either be on the regular ESPN network or its new ESPN+ app--the one that most here seem to despise.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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Really hard to predict an outcome of a fight between two shot guys. At this time, I think Matthysse is more damaged, so Pac by KO.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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boxing_rocks wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 11:06 Really hard to predict an outcome of a fight between two shot guys. At this time, I think Matthysse is more damaged, so Pac by KO.
I think Pacquiao is more shot. But since his skill level was so much higher than Mathyse, I think it is nearly a 50/50 fight now.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Lucas Matthysse - July 14, 2018

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"Shot" is a harsh word.

It pretty much implies that a fighter has nothing left. The reflexes are gone, the legs don't move, can no longer absorb a punch. Can't get out of the way of a punch.

I don't see that with Pacquiao--- at least the Pacquiao we last saw one year ago against Horn.

What I see is a fighter on the decline, who no longer performs at his highest level.

Just someone who is past his prime, but still very capable. I, like many, thought Pacquiao defeated Horn handily.

It was hardly vintage Pac, but the speed was there, the ability to throw in combination, still mustard on his punches.

The difference was that he was unable to do all those things consistently through 12, but instead flashed his skills in spurts.

Some of it was the natural physical decline, some of it was less than adequate training.

But many of his peak skills remain. He was not shot.

That being said, who knows what a full year away will do to him as approaches 40. He could be coated in rust.

Combine that with Pacquiao taking on a business role for this fight as a promoter, and there is a potential for disaster.
The necessary focus might not be there.

But I think he'll be all right. Matthysse was never a great fighter, just a great puncher.

Since losing to Garcia, he hasn't done anything terribly special in the ring. Like Pacquiao, his skills are in decline too, so in that regard, it might be a wash.

Obviously Matthysse has that familiar puncher's chance, but that's about it. In terms of skills, he can't touch Pacquiao, unless the Filipino has deteriorated dramatically in 12 months.

Those light 2-1 odds favoring Pac seem very generous to Matthysse, who in years past would have been completely out of his league against Pacquiao.
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