forcefraser wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 14:18
Khan has beaten Maidana, Aleksander, Collazo, Kotelnik, Malinaggi and Phil le farkin Greco. Murray has beaten? A 12 year old Blackwell and Max Bursak?
Change their places immediately or I’ll have no choice but to end you.
As I've said many times; I rate Murray relatively highly because of his very competitive world class losses and draw more so than his best wins.
Murray's last opponent was significantly better than Khan's last opponent and Murray has also been a lot busier than Khan in the last few years.
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 14:27Ah good, we haven’t had a ‘Murray is too high’ argument for a while now. Horse has a bizarrely high opinion of Murray which is shared by no-one else.
Stuarty wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 13:21
Good list Crolla a bit high for me and also 6 in the list is being a bit kind to Burnett. We've still to see the best of him against a top guy at bantam. ZZ (can't be arsed even attempting to spell that one) was a solid win but he's not had a KO in years and I find him a bit of a boring watch but that's just my personal taste. I suppose.
Burnett is perhaps on the high side. Haskins and Zhakiyanov are not the highest calibre of world level wins, but he beat them both very clearly and he did manage to unify the IBF and WBA titles in beating them.
The gap between 6th place and 14th place isn't very big and there could be a lot of changes there by the end of the year if most/all of these guys fight again.
Stuarty wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 13:21Good to see Taylor jump up so high as well
With Taylor entering the WBSS tournament he could be in contention for the top spot if he can win it.
Burnett in the WBSS as well but probably has a harder task than Taylor with Inoue and Tete in there.
dr_devious wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 15:47
Good list, I'd have Yafai and Selby in the top ten with Bellew and Crolla out of the top ten
That's a reasonable opinion.
Pains me to say it as a fan, but Selby doesn’t deserve to be in the top ten, he hasn’t looked good for a while and was really awful against Warrington.
TopGun wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 09:25
Few years ago this top 10 would have been strong world contenders, but with Brook, Khan, Quigg Frampton etc losing British boxing on the world stage has taken a beating recently....
Yeah, but I think we have a lot of potential.
10 years ago we had 3 lineal champions. It's difficult to replicate that type of success.
ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 11:53That's fair enough RE Burns. Crolla is too high for me. He's not exactly busy either. I understand why you've got him higher because he got the decision against Burns and had two fights with Linares before that but the reality is there's a paper thin difference between Burns and Crolla at this stage.
Yeah, maybe I'm forgetting how close their fight was.
The problem is that the bottom 10 falls about 5 times faster than the top 10, so a fairly small gap can become a big gap pretty quickly.
If Burns can beat any top 10 domestic fighter etc. he'll move up the list significantly more than most would for a similar win. He's just got to fight someone worth something again.
Horse wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 08:00
1. (1.) Anthony Joshua
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) George Groves
4. (4.) Billy Joe Saunders
5. (5.) James DeGale
6. (6.) Ryan Burnett
7. (7.) Josh Warrington
8. (8.) Tony Bellew
9. (9.) Anthony Crolla
10. (10.) Kell Brook
11. (11.) Khalid Yafai
12. (22.) Josh Taylor
13. (12.) Lee Selby
14. (13.) Luke Campbell
15. (14.) Tyson Fury
16. (15.) Chris Eubank Jr.
17. (16.) Callum Smith
18. (23.) Gavin McDonnell
19. (17.) Jamie McDonnell
20. (19.) Scott Quigg
21. (27.) Martin Murray
22. (20.) Amir Khan
23. (21.) Dillian Whyte
24. (18.) Terry Flanagan
25. (24.) John Ryder
26. (RE.) Jack Catterall
27. (NE.) Lewis Ritson
28. (25.) Hughie Fury
29. (26.) James Tennyson
30. (28.) Ricky Burns
Horse wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 08:00
1. (1.) Anthony Joshua
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) George Groves
4. (4.) Billy Joe Saunders
5. (5.) James DeGale
6. (6.) Ryan Burnett
7. (7.) Josh Warrington
8. (8.) Tony Bellew
9. (9.) Anthony Crolla
10. (10.) Kell Brook
11. (11.) Khalid Yafai
12. (22.) Josh Taylor
13. (12.) Lee Selby
14. (13.) Luke Campbell
15. (14.) Tyson Fury
16. (15.) Chris Eubank Jr.
17. (16.) Callum Smith
18. (23.) Gavin McDonnell
19. (17.) Jamie McDonnell
20. (19.) Scott Quigg
21. (27.) Martin Murray
22. (20.) Amir Khan
23. (21.) Dillian Whyte
24. (18.) Terry Flanagan
25. (24.) John Ryder
26. (RE.) Jack Catterall
27. (NE.) Lewis Ritson
28. (25.) Hughie Fury
29. (26.) James Tennyson
30. (28.) Ricky Burns
Horse wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 08:00
1. (1.) Anthony Joshua
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) George Groves
4. (4.) Billy Joe Saunders
5. (5.) James DeGale
6. (6.) Ryan Burnett
7. (7.) Josh Warrington
8. (8.) Tony Bellew
9. (9.) Anthony Crolla
10. (10.) Kell Brook
11. (11.) Khalid Yafai
12. (22.) Josh Taylor
13. (12.) Lee Selby
14. (13.) Luke Campbell
15. (14.) Tyson Fury
16. (15.) Chris Eubank Jr.
17. (16.) Callum Smith
18. (23.) Gavin McDonnell
19. (17.) Jamie McDonnell
20. (19.) Scott Quigg
21. (27.) Martin Murray
22. (20.) Amir Khan
23. (21.) Dillian Whyte
24. (18.) Terry Flanagan
25. (24.) John Ryder
26. (RE.) Jack Catterall
27. (NE.) Lewis Ritson
28. (25.) Hughie Fury
29. (26.) James Tennyson
30. (28.) Ricky Burns
Out - (29.) Sam Eggington
Out - (30.) Liam Smith
Martin Murray is miles too high.
Don't start him off
If I wanted to start him off, I'd point out that Frampton is not British.
Crolla a bit high for me and also 6 in the list is being a bit kind to Burnett. We've still to see the best of him against a top guy at bantam. ZZ (can't be arsed even attempting to spell that one) was a solid win but he's not had a KO in years and I find him a bit of a boring watch but that's just my personal taste. I suppose.
