Classic fights I've watched recently

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gilgamesh wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 21:00
veganin wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 20:21 Classic Fights yet no Manny Paacquiao probably one of the best P 4 P boxers in the sports history. Thats sad you could not find a classic Pacquiao fight. I guess its all matter of opinion.
I'm sure there are classic Pacquiao fights to be found, but that's not the point of this thread. The point is simply which Classic Bout have you watched most recently. Boxing aficionados tend to dig deeper than the recent past.
:TU: I have watched the 3 Morales fights and both Barrera fights during this thread but yeah ive seen pretty much all Pacquiao's big fights, I think i'll watch a lot of his earlier career at some point though
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Carlos Monzon vs Tony Mundine


Monzon KOs Mundine in 7 in a pretty straightforward win for the champ, Mundine gave it an honest go and fired out a few combinations but Monzon mainly kept him on the end of his jab , slow start again from Monzon but he upped the workrate as the rounds went on, he opened Mundine up a couple of times in the 5th and 6th, he finally got him out of there in the 7th with a right hand/left hook
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handsofstone wrote: 02 Jul 2018, 16:51 Carlos Monzon vs Jose Napoles


Monzon wins via TKO after world Welterweight champ Napoles retires on his stool after 6 rounds, sterling effort from Napoles he was able to make Monzon pay for his notorious slow starting and he had no issues getting through the long leavers of Monzon, he was a lot slicker than him and he was able to catch him with jabs and leads, Monzon as ever jabbed away but he wasn't busy enough early doors

Its was in the 5th Monzon finally started to go up a gear just as Napoles was having success, he started nailing Napoles with the right hand and following it up with the left, Napoles couldn't get out of the way of any of them and done amazingly well to make it out the round, same thing happened in the 6th where Monzon opened Napoles up but he wouldn't go down, he even tried to fight back but he was feeling the heavy blows of Monzon who's accuracy was immense, somehow Napoles made it to the end of the round without going down but that was him done for the night, Monzon was just too big a mountain to climb
It was probably King Carlos' greatest performance! One of the greatest performances in boxing of all times!
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gilgamesh wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 21:00
veganin wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 20:21 Classic Fights yet no Manny Paacquiao probably one of the best P 4 P boxers in the sports history. Thats sad you could not find a classic Pacquiao fight. I guess its all matter of opinion.
I'm sure there are classic Pacquiao fights to be found, but that's not the point of this thread. The point is simply which Classic Bout have you watched most recently. Boxing aficionados tend to dig deeper than the recent past.
I find it difficult to watch matches going back decades as my main viewing platform is YouTube. I am sure your correct boxing "aficionados" can dig deep into boxing history, but I am limited by what I can actually view. I been watching nearly all the Pacquiao fights i can find and surely you agree he is one of the greatest boxers of all time. Saying that my favorite recent viewings are the Ward v Gatti trilogy. Going back 60 plus years I find YouTube has great fights but are limited. Mickey Walker for example, who had 60 KOs, YouTube only show a few of his fights. So if there are any ways of watching fights from many years ago, I would love to know.
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Nah Youtube is probably your best bet.

Pacquiao has definitely made an enormous impact on the sport no question. He's the #2 guy so far of the 21st century, and would surely rank among the Top 40 or 50 all time at worst.

Probably the #1 Asian boxer of all time I'd say.
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Buster Douglas vs Mike Williams

The fight was close in the first two rounds, but Douglas was methodically learning and slowly breaking Williams down. He was pressuring and using his jab well. In the 3rd Buster dropped him twice, both times with the jab. Since then Douglas was clearly dominating, he had rocked Williams for a couple of times in the process. Mike was trying to come back in the 6th, that was relatively good round for him. But in the 7th Douglas dropped him again with another jab. Williams was more hurt that time. Buster went for the kill. There were some clinches after that. In a one of them Douglas landed excellent right uppercut - left hook - right cross combination, down went Williams, the fight was over. That was prime Douglas on the great winning streak en route to his legendary upset-victory over Tyson.
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I remember watching that; it was a preliminary bout for Tyosn-Spinks. Williams looked ripped and Douglas looked flabby. However, Douglas was much more skilled and it showed. Carl Williams-Trevor Berbick was also on the the undercard; it was a terrible fight.
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Ambling Alp II wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 10:52 I remember watching that; it was a preliminary bout for Tyosn-Spinks. Williams looked ripped and Douglas looked flabby. However, Douglas was much more skilled and it showed. Carl Williams-Trevor Berbick was also on the the undercard; it was a terrible fight.
It was well-executed fight for Douglas. He controlled the whole action. And Williams-Berbick was absolutely uneventful, I remember Willaims providing a near-shot-out for Berbick in a very lackluster fashion.
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Joe Louis vs Primo Carnera


Louis KOs Carnera in 6, putting the ex Heavyweight champ down 3 times in the process, Carnera far to crude and cumbersome to make his massive height and reach advantage count against the young up and coming Louis, he got the head jabbed off him for the first 5 rounds, Louis started setting him up for the right hand in the 6th and it was no surprise when Louis unloaded a cracker of a right hand that Carnera went down, Louis put him down again with the exact same shot and waded into Carnera and finished him off with a left hook
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Joe Louis vs King Levinsky

Louis KOs the hopelessly outclassed Levinsky in 1 round, put him down with a flurry seconds into fight then again twice more with right hands, Levinsky should've been stopped after the 3rd KD, he staggered back into the corner before Louis clubbed him into the canvas when the ref finally stopped it, demolition job from Louis I cant imagine he had an easier night than this
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Joe Louis vs Max Baer


Louis KOs former champ Baer in the 4th, it was vintage Louis all the way even though he hadn't reached title level yet, Baer looked in good shape but he was slow and tentative, Louis hurt him with some crisp combinations in the 1st but he did come back firing but Louis's cleaner work was effecting him already, Louis got on the jab in the 2nd and boxed Baer's ears off, he had Baer down twice in the 3rd, Louis slipped a jab and came back over with 2 big right hands, Baer got up but was put right down again, this time it was 3 left hooks, 2 cracking KDs


Louis put Baer down for the third and final time in the 4th, again easily slipping the lazy jab of Baer and coming back with the right hand, nailed Baer hard and there was a delayed reaction before Baer went down on a knee for the full count

Louis at his best, pretty much punch perfect, equally as hard hitting and accurate with either hand and the combinations were in the 5s and 6s
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Joe Louis vs Jack Sharkey


Louis KOs another former Heavyweight champ Sharkey in the 3rd, another easy nights work for Louis, comfortably controlled the opener then had Sharkey down twice from right hands in the 2nd, Sharkey was down twice more in the 3rd, the first one was a clubbing right, Sharkey got up but when Louis landed a right uppercut/left hook, Sharkey was finished
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Joe Frazier vs Manuel Ramos

Frazier started aggressively with pressuring Ramos and forcing him to back up. Early in the 1st round Ramos caught Frazier with a kinda hybrid right hook, Joe was wobbled, but didn't back up. Ramos tried to take over with the series of punches, but Frazier was bobbing and weaving, and punching back. The fight quickly returned to its initial form with Frazier pressuring Ramos. At the end of the round Frazier returned Ramos a favor, he rocked him with left hook. Manuel was saved by the ropes from being knocked down. In the 2nd Frazier continued chasing Ramos. Joe sent him to the ropes early, battered him and knocked him down with the barrage of punches. This nightmarish for Ramos battering continued to the end of the round, when Joe knocked him down again with another barrage of punches. The round was over, Ramos managed to stand up, the referee wisely decided to stop the bout. Smokin' Joe defended the Heavyweight championship for the 1st time.
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Joe Louis vs James J Braddock


Louis KOs Braddock in 8 to become Heavyweight champ, he had to get off the floor in the 1st though after Braddock nailed him on the inside with a right hand, kinda caught Louis square footed and he was up straight away but it was a lovely KD all the same, after that it was pretty much one way traffic bar the odd salvo from Braddock, Louis was just a bit too young and sharp for him and he stung him a few times before the 8th when he threw a nothing left hook then came over the top with a hurtful looking right hand which put Braddock down for the count
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Evander Holyfield vs George Foreman

A great fight of the two legends. An entertaining and pretty competetive. It was more competetive in the first half of the bout though. Foreman seemed dangerous often then, he landed some good stuff. George's best shot was in the 7th round, he wobbled Holyfield, but gutsy Evander returned a favor a bit later with a solid flurry. Actually the fight could have ended on many stages, if it wasn't Foreman. Holyfield rocked him especially hard in the 9th with a great counter right like the one, that had sent Douglas down before. So, the second half of the fight was clearly in Holyfield's favour, Evander had taken a comfortable decision eventually.
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Joe Louis vs Tommy Farr


Louis outpoints the brave Farr over 15 to retain his title, was a shitty fight if I'm honest, very lacklustre from Louis who fought in first gear all night, he was still picking up the rounds against the cruder Farr, the jab was the weapon of choice for both men, Louis just a bit busier and accurate with it, occasionally coming over the top with a right hand but no much though

Farr came into it in the middle rounds and won about 4 on the spin around about the 6th/9th, outjabbing Louis who went to sleep and roughing him up, Farr landed some nice combos as well, Louis picked things up again around the 10th and jabbed his way down the stretch to win a wide decision

Solid effort from the Welshman Farr but Louis was pish that night
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I watched Benn v Watson with U.S commentary a bit back which I found on YouTube, was a nice little treat as I didn’t know the U.S had covered it :yay:
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I watched Benn v Watson with U.S commentary a bit back which I found on YouTube, was a nice little treat as I didn’t know the U.S had covered it
One of my favourite fights........loads of London rivalry and spite and it would kick-start the great era of the Benn, Collins, Eubank, Watson battles.......with Calzaghe arriving to move the story on.

Definitely Mike Watson's signature win in my opinion and something of a first watershed moment for Benn who had been smashing the hell out of nearly everyone up until this juncture.
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littlepug wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 14:31 I watched Benn v Watson with U.S commentary a bit back which I found on YouTube, was a nice little treat as I didn’t know the U.S had covered it :yay:
Thanks for mentioning this fight, as it made me check it out. I am interested if people prefer American commentary over British? Some fights I can only find with German or any non English commentary, i turn the volume down. The Americans are definitely more animated, yet Reg Gutteridge was great, just not keen on Jim Watt.
I remember the first Bruno Vs Tyson. Harry or Des Lyman .said "I,m ready, fans are ready, is Frank?" That has always stuck with me. Even if its not the exact words.
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veganin wrote: 19 Jul 2018, 22:43
littlepug wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 14:31 I watched Benn v Watson with U.S commentary a bit back which I found on YouTube, was a nice little treat as I didn’t know the U.S had covered it :yay:
Thanks for mentioning this fight, as it made me check it out. I am interested if people prefer American commentary over British? Some fights I can only find with German or any non English commentary, i turn the volume down. The Americans are definitely more animated, yet Reg Gutteridge was great, just not keen on Jim Watt.
I remember the first Bruno Vs Tyson. Harry or Des Lyman .said "I,m ready, fans are ready, is Frank?" That has always stuck with me. Even if its not the exact words.
I dont really have a preference but for fights i enjoy i try to seek out U.S and U.K versions as the different commentary can show the fight in a different light sometimes, ive been known to watch the Benn/Mclellan fight back to back once with U.S and then with U.k commentary, what a geek i am !
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Joe Louis vs Tony Galento


Louis KOs the brave, game and dangerous Two Ton Galento in the 4th, fun wee scrap with both men down, Galento stunned Louis with a left hook seconds into the fight but Louis managed to hold on, Louis then decked Galento in the 2nd, stunned him with a right then put him down with the left, in the 3rd Galento then put Louis down, caught him with a left hook lunging in, Louis didn't seem to hurt and in the 4th he gave Galento an almighty hiding, throwing the kitchen sink at him, fvck knows what was keeping Galento on his feet he was pummeled with every shot in the book, only when the ref stepped in did Galento stagger and collapse to the canvas
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Thanks for mentioning this fight, as it made me check it out. I am interested if people prefer American commentary over British? Some fights I can only find with German or any non English commentary, i turn the volume down. The Americans are definitely more animated, yet Reg Gutteridge was great, just not keen on Jim Watt.
I remember the first Bruno Vs Tyson. Harry or Des Lyman .said "I,m ready, fans are ready, is Frank?" That has always stuck with me. Even if its not the exact words.
Reg Gutteridge probably had the near-perfect CV for a boxing commentator.......

.......his family were pure, bona fide boxing folk so he knew the game well but Reg had also trained as a journalist and worked with London's biggest papers and that meant he could see a story, ask the right questions and communicate well.

Gutteridge also had a great (but never openly discussed) rivalry with the BBC's Harry Carpenter and that almost certainly ensured that they kept their standards sky high and did their research.
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littlepug wrote: 20 Jul 2018, 03:45Thanks for mentioning this fight, as it made me check it out. I am interested if people prefer American commentary over British? Some fights I can only find with German or any non English commentary, i turn the volume down. The Americans are definitely more animated, yet Reg Gutteridge was great, just not keen on Jim Watt.
I remember the first Bruno Vs Tyson. Harry or Des Lyman .said "I,m ready, fans are ready, is Frank?" That has always stuck with me. Even if its not the exact words.
I dont really have a preference but for fights i enjoy i try to seek out U.S and U.K versions as the different commentary can show the fight in a different light sometimes, ive been known to watch the Benn/Mclellan fight back to back once with U.S and then with U.k commentary, what a geek i am !
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Not a geek at all, just well into your boxing . Paccccquiia VS Sancchez is superb. :TU:
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Joe Louis vs Buddy Baer 1+2



Louis wins the first fight via controversial DQ after 6 rounds, good little fight, Baer put Louis down in the 1st and through the ropes, big right hand stunned Louis, Louis got up to regain control and had Baer down 3 times in the 6th all from right hands, the last KD seemed to deck Baer right after the bell and he couldn't continue after the minutes rest, his corner literally dragged him to the stool, the ref then DQ'd Baer for not coming out for the 7th


Louis settles things in rematch though putting Baer down 3 times in a 1st round KO, again the right hands from Louis doing the damage, clinical finishing from Louis and made no mistake this time
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Francesco Damiani vs Tyrell Biggs

In the 1st three rounds Biggs was trying to establish his gameplan of using his jab and boxing from the outside. But Damiani was always catching Biggs eventually and landing harder shots. Biggs failed to succeed with the rational strategy, he tried to fight Damiani in the 4th, but that's wasn't a good idea, Francesco again was landing good punches. In the 5th Biggs returned to the initial strategy and he tried to stay away from Damiani even more, but early in the round the fight was stopped due to cut sustained by Biggs, Damiani won by TKO.
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