Conlon revolution

[mullenman]

The dream is over. So overrated it’s not funny. More power in my farts. Great undercard last night but the talk from conlon v frampton is a joke. Leagues apart.

[TheLeprechaun]

Ronnie Clark beats him

[forcefraser]

Can`t see Conlan doing much. That division is not easy either.

[lillywhite14]

He didn’t even win the Olympic fight he was apparently robbed in ( the reason why anyone mentions his name )

[TheLeprechaun]

He didn’t even win the Olympic fight he was apparently robbed in ( the reason why anyone mentions his name )

Exactly. He got beaten fair and square. Usually the Irish are the first to clap their hands and show respect to the winner so I'm not quite sure what happened.

[lillywhite14]

He didn’t even win the Olympic fight he was apparently robbed in ( the reason why anyone mentions his name )

Exactly. He got beaten fair and square. Usually the Irish are the first to clap their hands and show respect to the winner so I'm not quite sure what happened.

He seemed to have already decided that if he was losing any fight, it had to be a robbery.

Seemed to work though, in that it secured him a better pro deal!

[PredatorHayds]

I thought he clearly beat the Russian at the Olympics.
Skills are there as a pro but not one punch knock out power.
With the backing he has it’s probably harder not to be a world champion.
Regardless of how good he becomes Top Rank will make sure when he fights for a title he will be the heavy favourite.

[KiwiRider]

Give him more time as a pro.
Let his power develop as he eases in from a young amateur, to a more seasoned professional.
He will be carefully matched for a while longer.
Yes, he has a lot of hype surrounding him. It's good in so far as putting bums on seats (which he is doing) but it also gets fans a bit impatient for the bigger match ups. Sometimes it works for some fighters like Josh Taylor, who already has power, and is older, but for some, like Conlon, it takes more time for the transition.
Be patient, give him another 5-6 fights, let him work his way up to the C level opponent, and then see how he does.

[DrDuke]

I thought he clearly beat the Russian at the Olympics.

I thought Nikitin clearly beat Conlan at the Olympics. He landed much more clean shots, Conlan was ineffectively slapping Nikitin all the fight long, while his head was bounced back almost to his butt by Nikitin's punches. All the hype started not because the decision even, but due to Conlan's punkish reaction to it.

[jamamb]

the russian couldnt miss conlan with hooks, conlan was busier and prob landed more but best shots from russian, he rocked conlan too yet his work got completely ignored by a lot of ppl

conlan was all tapping shoeshining

irish were calling robbery on katie taylors loss to even though i thought she did deserve to lose

[slapbangwhallop]

He didn’t even win the Olympic fight he was apparently robbed in ( the reason why anyone mentions his name )

Ah now that is bollocks! Conlan clearly won the fight and Nikitin even lost his fight before Conlan (against the Thai I think) and got the nod.

[Stuarty]

I had Conlon beating the Russian but would have to watch it again as I only saw it the once. It's a bit too early in his pro career to write him completely off IMO. He has great skills and technical ability but the lack of power is a concern and will probably be a factor as he moves up in class. I'd love to see him in with Martinez next. He would come and throw everything at Conlon and we'd see how good he really is.

[lillywhite14]

He didn’t even win the Olympic fight he was apparently robbed in ( the reason why anyone mentions his name )

Ah now that is bollocks! Conlan clearly won the fight and Nikitin even lost his fight before Conlan (against the Thai I think) and got the nod.

He didn’t clearly win at all! Even on here, with the domestic bias, I remember it was 50/50 at best. I thought the Russian took it.
Nothing like a robbery at all.

[Oiky]

Conlan is in at the deep in with that lack of power

[KiwiRider]

Conlan is in at the deep in with that lack of power

Some guys make the transition from points scoring in the Am's, to pro power. Give him time, maybe he will, maybe he won't. He seems to have the right team around him.

[jamamb]

i thought conlan was going to edge a decision but his outburst and the resulting outcry really made it seem a way worse decision then it was. with the conlan fight, i watched after i heard about the outcry, and i kept thinking "so when is the ass kicking going to start?"

basically, loads of ppl totally overlooked everything nikitin did. the russian was landing clean counter shots between conlans flurries all fight and had conlan visibly shaken at one point, more then conlan every rocked him. i felt conlan did land more , but it was mainly pitter patter slappy stuff, while the russian, although usually just landing single shots at a time, was really landing clean with those hooks between conlans flurries. he dramatically snapped conlans head back several times

it was a good compeitttive fight that somehow got wrongly depicted like an awful robbery. an awful robbery is what happened to that kazak who clowned the russian in the cw finals, only to lose unanimously.

[Andrew]

He didn’t even win the Olympic fight he was apparently robbed in ( the reason why anyone mentions his name )

Exactly. He got beaten fair and square. Usually the Irish are the first to clap their hands and show respect to the winner so I'm not quite sure what happened.

Personally I thought he did.

But I'll admit that it wasn't as clear a robbery as Joyce v Yoka. Or more so the heavyweight final which was the worst by far.

[Noxy]

i thought conlan was going to edge a decision but his outburst and the resulting outcry really made it seem a way worse decision then it was. with the conlan fight, i watched after i heard about the outcry, and i kept thinking "so when is the ass kicking going to start?"

basically, loads of ppl totally overlooked everything nikitin did. the russian was landing clean counter shots between conlans flurries all fight and had conlan visibly shaken at one point, more then conlan every rocked him. i felt conlan did land more , but it was mainly pitter patter slappy stuff, while the russian, although usually just landing single shots at a time, was really landing clean with those hooks between conlans flurries. he dramatically snapped conlans head back several times

it was a good compeitttive fight that somehow got wrongly depicted like an awful robbery. an awful robbery is what happened to that kazak who clowned the russian in the cw finals, only to lose unanimously.

It’s the ams, power doesn’t get you points and volume does. An 8 count doesn’t benefit the puncher even, it’s stoppage or nothing.

[jamamb]

i thought conlan was going to edge a decision but his outburst and the resulting outcry really made it seem a way worse decision then it was. with the conlan fight, i watched after i heard about the outcry, and i kept thinking "so when is the ass kicking going to start?"

basically, loads of ppl totally overlooked everything nikitin did. the russian was landing clean counter shots between conlans flurries all fight and had conlan visibly shaken at one point, more then conlan every rocked him. i felt conlan did land more , but it was mainly pitter patter slappy stuff, while the russian, although usually just landing single shots at a time, was really landing clean with those hooks between conlans flurries. he dramatically snapped conlans head back several times

it was a good compeitttive fight that somehow got wrongly depicted like an awful robbery. an awful robbery is what happened to that kazak who clowned the russian in the cw finals, only to lose unanimously.

It’s the ams, power doesn’t get you points and volume does. An 8 count doesn’t benefit the puncher even, it’s stoppage or nothing.

olympic scoring changed before rio

lots of stuff on it, theres several criteria and its not just punches landed anymore.

an 8 count could easily fit with something like 'domination of the bout' . and what counts as a 'quality' punch is up for debate too, certainly relevent to tap vs clean and hard

https://www.rte.ie/sport/olympics/2016/ ... explained/

[Noxy]

i thought conlan was going to edge a decision but his outburst and the resulting outcry really made it seem a way worse decision then it was. with the conlan fight, i watched after i heard about the outcry, and i kept thinking "so when is the ass kicking going to start?"

basically, loads of ppl totally overlooked everything nikitin did. the russian was landing clean counter shots between conlans flurries all fight and had conlan visibly shaken at one point, more then conlan every rocked him. i felt conlan did land more , but it was mainly pitter patter slappy stuff, while the russian, although usually just landing single shots at a time, was really landing clean with those hooks between conlans flurries. he dramatically snapped conlans head back several times

it was a good compeitttive fight that somehow got wrongly depicted like an awful robbery. an awful robbery is what happened to that kazak who clowned the russian in the cw finals, only to lose unanimously.

It’s the ams, power doesn’t get you points and volume does. An 8 count doesn’t benefit the puncher even, it’s stoppage or nothing.

olympic scoring changed before rio

lots of stuff on it, theres several criteria and its not just punches landed anymore.

an 8 count could easily fit with something like 'domination of the bout' . and what counts as a 'quality' punch is up for debate too, certainly relevent to tap vs clean and hard

https://www.rte.ie/sport/olympics/2016/ ... explained/

Ah right, ta for that. I don’t follow the ams as much as I once did.

[mickey1975]

Ams are scored like pros.