Alex Arthur V Sergei Gulyakevich

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2006, 12:39

I actually thought Athur looked good against a decent opponent, He looked all arms and legs and had a worrying twitching motion (I don't know why, I always worry when I see a fighter with a twitch) that made him look more awkard than good, but he was tough.

Arthur showed poise under pressure and bottle to comeback from that poor start... I thought after 3 rounds that he is going to lose.

I don't think he ever be an outstanding world champion if he gets a belt, but probably now has justified a shot, and I depending on the champion/co-challenger, I don't think it is out of the equation. He is massive for the weight.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 30 Apr 2006, 14:02

Gulyakevich's style was odd indeed, he had a very jerky, twitchy mannerism and almost jerked forward to throw punches. His face was starting to look a little mangled after about round 5 and that cut was serious. I laughed when John Rawling mentioned Gulyakevich wasn't very talkative and neglected to speak at the press conference, then a few rounds later revealed the Belarussian didn't speak a word of English. Well that's probably why he didn't say anything then

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 30 Apr 2006, 14:13

J-C wrote:Why is Alex Arthur fighting Gareth from The Office?

Gareth from the Office

http://www.britishboxing.net/img/record ... rgey_G.jpg

Arthur's opponent Sergey Gulyakevich

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/g ... gareth.jpg

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 30 Apr 2006, 14:20

Overall, I was impressed with the way Arthur dealt with an awkward dangerous puncher, who could have proved a major banana skin if he wasn't careful in there.

Showed a good chin when caught, and a calm head when the punches were flying his way. And we know he's got the heart for a battle.

I think he has it in him to win a world title this year. Especially if he gets old man Medina.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 30 Apr 2006, 14:20

What is it with these Russian-area guys and their youthful looks and mid-90's hairdos?

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 30 Apr 2006, 14:21

MightyWarrior wrote:Overall, I was impressed with the way Arthur dealt with an awkward dangerous puncher, who could have proved a major banana skin if he wasn't careful in there.

Showed a good chin when caught, and a calm head when the punches were flying his way. And we know he's got the heart for a battle.

I think he has it in him to win a world title this year. Especially if he gets old man Medina.

I agree, I think it is possible he could pick up a title. Maybe against Medina. By no means a certainty but I think it's very possible. His tendency to mix it up early wouldn't be much of an omen - barring cuts - but if he really takes his top-level game into it he can win. The defence is definitely still leaky, but at times I thought he was defending well against a fast, sharp and determined opponent -- that headbutt was a nasty one and, to be honest, I hope Arthur's one shortly after was deliberate. Gulyakovich, dejected as he was, is definitely still a bit threat at this level and the EBU could do worse than to give him another go, should Arthur vacate. And I agree with steve698 - Jim Rosenthal was a bit of a cock.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:08

Manos de Oro wrote: Jim Rosenthal was a bit of a cock.

But I wouldn't replace him, he is who I associate with live big time boxing.... Even if Paul Dempsey is a much better anchor, its Jim who work alongside legends like Dickie Davies, he was the commentator then, and Reg Gutteridge (as the anchor) on a regular basis... oh yeah, and Elton Welsby

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:31

Jim's a gentleman. And a pro. Check out his commentary on Hearns-Duran 22 years ago and you'll realise this guy is no flash in the pan: he can do it all.
He'll be presenting the Champion's League final, the British Grand Prix...

JC · Post by JC » 30 Apr 2006, 16:32

It seemed as though Arthur's management had seen something before the fight to suggest that Gulyakevitch was vulnerable to the big overhand right, cos he certainly tried it a good few times and with mixed success. Although the one he cault him with which was followed by the clash of heads was a good shot.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:39

bennie wrote:Jim's a gentleman. And a pro. Check out his commentary on Hearns-Duran 22 years ago and you'll realise this guy is no flash in the pan: he can do it all.
He'll be presenting the Champion's League final, the British Grand Prix...

Youre right Bennie.

These blokes call Rosenthal a cock dont know what they are talking about.

Jim is sheer class.

I remember Duran Hearns well.

"Thats gotta be it, thats gotta be it in the second for Duran, flattened by a right hand, his seconds are in, its all over".

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:42

stujones wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote: Jim Rosenthal was a bit of a cock.
But I wouldn't replace him, he is who I associate with live big time boxing.... Even if Paul Dempsey is a much better anchor, its Jim who work alongside legends like Dickie Davies, he was the commentator then, and Reg Gutteridge (as the anchor) on a regular basis... oh yeah, and Elton Welsby

Elton Welsby did Curry - McCrory

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:43

KO Artist wrote:
bennie wrote:Jim's a gentleman. And a pro. Check out his commentary on Hearns-Duran 22 years ago and you'll realise this guy is no flash in the pan: he can do it all.
He'll be presenting the Champion's League final, the British Grand Prix...
Youre right Bennie.

These blokes call Rosenthal a cock dont know what they are talking about.

Jim is sheer class.

I remember Duran Hearns well.

"Thats gotta be it, thats gotta be it in the second for Duran, flattened by a right hand, his seconds are in, its all over".

You know, we all caught a taxi back from the arena last night, and Jim insisted on paying. He's at a charity gig today.
He's just a nice man.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:44

you still the stats man for itv bennie

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:54

REAL_DEAL wrote:you still the stats man for itv bennie

It beats working for a living.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 30 Apr 2006, 16:57

Not working for the NHS? i trried to get your attention at the calzaghe - lacy fight, i was just behind the press. maybe at the next big event.

My T Sharp · Post by **My T Sharp** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:00

stujones wrote:I actually thought Athur looked good against a decent opponent, He looked all arms and legs and had a worrying twitching motion (I don't know why, I always worry when I see a fighter with a twitch) that made him look more awkard than good, but he was tough.

Arthur showed poise under pressure and bottle to comeback from that poor start... I thought after 3 rounds that he is going to lose.

I don't think he ever be an outstanding world champion if he gets a belt, but probably now has justified a shot, and I depending on the champion/co-challenger, I don't think it is out of the equation. He is massive for the weight.

Arthur is definately improving, the old Arthur may have fallen apart under that early attack or got drawn into a war. The more thoughtful approach is working, but I think it makes him look one paced.

Medina would be a big ask if Arthur goes for the IBF, I think that Arthur would be too slow to deal with the hit and move arm punch style of Medina.

BTW What are Arthur's interviews all about?

I don't know what would be more dangerous, getting into a fight or a conversation with Arthur

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:06

bennie wrote:Jim's a gentleman. And a pro. Check out his commentary on Hearns-Duran 22 years ago and you'll realise this guy is no flash in the pan: he can do it all.
He'll be presenting the Champion's League final, the British Grand Prix...

I agree... I don't know why Jim isn't doing the commentary rather than Rawling... I think he'd do a much better job... him and Barry carry the show presenterwise...

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:07

Why you think Jim's a cock?

I've always thought he's a good bloke, always does a great job on the F1. Cant think of any other better anchor's than Jim.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:11

I think Arthur was very lucky last night... where was the movement?... the jab?.... the defence??... if he steps up to true world class he can't afford to fight the way he did last night... on that form Medina will run rings around him....

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:34

bennie wrote:You know, we all caught a taxi back from the arena last night, and Jim insisted on paying. He's at a charity gig today.
He's just a nice man.

Nice to know he's a sound bloke away from the cameras, but in front - professional as he is - there's something about that grin... just reminds of a salesman. All that hype-style bluster after Khan 'dethroned' Kindelan didn't help much, neither when he constantly bungled Kostya Tszyu's name up. These were just recent and are pretty trivial - maybe he's just getting his feet warmed back into covering boxing - but it didn't endear him to younger ITV fans like myself, who weren't around in the 80s (and weren't properly perceptive in the early/mid 90s). But, to be honest, as long as they show the full fights I don't really care too much if they have Micky Mouse as lead anchor. :)

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:36

silkov wrote:the jab?

Was thinking the same thing. He's got a really good jab when he gets it going - even showed flashes of it last night. It could do wonders if he utilised it properly.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Apr 2006, 17:37

KO Artist wrote:
stujones wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote: Jim Rosenthal was a bit of a cock.
But I wouldn't replace him, he is who I associate with live big time boxing.... Even if Paul Dempsey is a much better anchor, its Jim who work alongside legends like Dickie Davies, he was the commentator then, and Reg Gutteridge (as the anchor) on a regular basis... oh yeah, and Elton Welsby
Elton Welsby did Curry - McCrory

Elton was the anchor for Heanrs vs Andries and Jim and Terry Marsh were the commentators - Jim Watt was in the studio. Somehow I cannot see that commentary team working again on ITV

but Jim asks good questions and since that "fighting talk" has been dropped the shows have been much more enjoyable.

I couldn't really fault Last Nights show, it was the two main fights shown in full. The only criticism I could have was surely they could have shown the Young fight in full also.

He is much better than Colonel Bob Sheridan, who just doesn't seem to have the enthusiam any more (perhaps I am very wrong, thats the impression he gives me) and yes, he Duran vs Hearns commentary was a classic... and DOWN!!!!!!!!!. I definately think he is a boxing man.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 30 Apr 2006, 18:36

stujones wrote:
KO Artist wrote:
stujones wrote: But I wouldn't replace him, he is who I associate with live big time boxing.... Even if Paul Dempsey is a much better anchor, its Jim who work alongside legends like Dickie Davies, he was the commentator then, and Reg Gutteridge (as the anchor) on a regular basis... oh yeah, and Elton Welsby
Elton Welsby did Curry - McCrory
Elton was the anchor for Heanrs vs Andries and Jim and Terry Marsh were the commentators - Jim Watt was in the studio. Somehow I cannot see that commentary team working again on ITV but Jim asks good questions and since that "fighting talk" has been dropped the shows have been much more enjoyable.

I couldn't really fault Last Nights show, it was the two main fights shown in full. The only criticism I could have was surely they could have shown the Young fight in full also.

He is much better than Colonel Bob Sheridan, who just doesn't seem to have the enthusiam any more (perhaps I am very wrong, thats the impression he gives me) and yes, he Duran vs Hearns commentary was a classic... and DOWN!!!!!!!!!. I definately think he is a boxing man.

I dont think we have got anything to compalin about.

After the complete Hennessy and Fight Academy BBC shite, what SN and ITV are doing over ITV1 and ITV4 at prime time is brilliant, just brilliant.

Stop the moaning everyone and look at the positives.

fist · Post by **fist** » 01 May 2006, 05:49

Manos de Oro wrote:
bennie wrote:You know, we all caught a taxi back from the arena last night, and Jim insisted on paying. He's at a charity gig today.
He's just a nice man.
Nice to know he's a sound bloke away from the cameras, but in front - professional as he is - there's something about that grin... just reminds of a salesman. All that hype-style bluster after Khan 'dethroned' Kindelan didn't help much, neither when he constantly bungled Kostya Tszyu's name up. These were just recent and are pretty trivial

Pretty subjective as well...Jim's a legend. You werent around in the 80s? How old r u? 16?

pm · Post by pm » 01 May 2006, 06:19

What happened with the knockdown at the end of one of the rounds? Cant remember which round sorry.

The ref ruled it a slip I think but from where we were sitting it looked like AAA caught him with a couple of flush shots and it was kind of a delayed reaction with him going down? How'd it look on TV?