What If? (Make a Fight)

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Tommy Morrison vs Bruce Seldon :box:

((Give a prediction, and make a fight))

Go!
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Tommy's left hook finds it's mark early and often, ending things in a fight that's unexpectedly brief and full of about 8 minutes of surprising bursts of energy from both men.


James Toney vs Nikolai Valuev January of 2006 (Imagine that the juicing issue, was inconsequential/nominal in it's effect....which it most likely was whether there was something in his system or not, hell, he probably just snatched something of someones plate in the gym in all likelihood.)
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Toney scores the decision upset, and calls out the "Frankenstein Brothers" immediately afterwards :lol:


Wladimir Klitschko vs Oleg Maskaev
(After Wlad lost to Sanders)
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So I'm assuming the fights have to have actually been possible like as in they are guys from the same era that for whatever never wound up fighting? I'm game, just trying to figure out the formula here.

Anyway back to business.

Wlad school Oleg Maskaev, and stops him around the 9th or 10th. Maskaev might've been more aggressive feeling as though Wlad was vulnerable, but I feel like Wlad would've been able to handle Oleg.


Rafael Marquez vs Jhonny Gonzalez (One of THE Dream fights from my era that I hate so much I never got to see...would've LOVED to have seen these guys tangle at Bantamweight circa 2004 or 2005 or so)
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((Just clarifying here, yeah it has to be possible fights that could have actually happened))

Unfortunately I don't know much about the other guy, so I'm going with Rafeal Marquez by TKO 11 :box:

Umm...

Dariusz Michaelzewski (or however it's spelled) vs Roy Jones
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HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 20:40 ((Just clarifying here, yeah it has to be possible fights that could have actually happened))

Unfortunately I don't know much about the other guy, so I'm going with Rafeal Marquez by TKO 11 :box:

Umm...

Dariusz Michaelzewski (or however it's spelled) vs Roy Jones
I always figured Marquez vs Gonzalez would've been a real knockdown, drag out war, and there's good reason to believe both men would've been hitting the canvas as it was common in the bouts of both competitors for that to happen.

Roy Jones W12, Unanimous Decision in a fairly lopsided fight. Michalczewski would've had his moments though.


Shane Mosley vs Tito Trinidad...at say...154 circa 2001 (let's assume for the sake of argument that Tito had never gone into the Middleweight Tournament)
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FUUUUUUUCK that'd of been a great fight.... Moseley at his best... Tito at his best.... I think Trinidad would have been a bit too much for Sugar Shane... KO8


Pacquiao vs Sergio Martinez
(Catch-weight of 155)
The Junior Middleweight & Middleweight titles all on the line
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HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 20:54 FUUUUUUUCK that'd of been a great fight.... Moseley at his best... Tito at his best.... I think Trinidad would have been a bit too much for Sugar Shane... KO8


Pacquiao vs Sergio Martinez
(Catch-weight of 155)
The Junior Middleweight & Middleweight titles all on the line
Assuming we're talking Sergio when he was peaking say 2011 thru 2013...I think he would've knocked out Pacquiao. It would've been a highly competitive bout in spots, but I think Martinez being the bigger guy, and having a speedy, counter punching style he would've eventually caught Pac with something big enough to either put him out or hurt him bad enough to force the stoppage.

I'm thinking Serg KO 7 or 8 or so



Leonard Dorin vs Stevie Johnson at Lightweight....2002
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Dorin all day every day... :box: but I must admit it'd of been close... Decision, most likely majority decision.

Speaking of Dorin... Piggybacking off of that... PAUL SPADAFORA vs FLOYD MAYWEATHER (2002-2003) .... Lightweight Championship
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HomicideHenry wrote: 06 Jul 2018, 21:11 Dorin all day every day... :box: but I must admit it'd of been close... Decision, most likely majority decision.

Speaking of Dorin... Piggybacking off of that... PAUL SPADAFORA vs FLOYD MAYWEATHER (2002-2003) .... Lightweight Championship
Mayweather by clear decision.

I'll roll back the years. December 1983. Don Curry vs Aaron Pryor. Curry is approaching his peak. Pryor just won the Arguello rematch. Is Curry experienced enough. How will Pryor deal with the extra weight and can he hold off on the partying?
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As much as I love my fellow Ohio fighters... I'll go with Curry... Decision win... Super competitive. :box:


Michael Dynamite Dokes
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Gerry Cooney

Let's say 1982 :TU:
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Cooney pressures Dokes and ultimately scores a KO in the 4th.

Let's do a one of the most popular matchups. Riddick Bowe doesn't throw WBC belt in the trash can and fights Lennox Lewis in early 1993.
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Lewis, all day every day... Batters Bowe from the start... Pulls out a TKO stoppage inside of eight rounds.


Jack Dempsey
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Harry Wills
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Dempsey aggressively chases for Wills' head and finds it by the 6th.

Ray Mercer vs Donovan Ruddock in the early 90s.
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DrDuke wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 13:13 Dempsey aggressively chases for Wills' head and finds it by the 6th.

Ray Mercer vs Donovan Ruddock in the early 90s.
Mercer by 9th round KO in a tough fight

Wladimir Klitschko vs Zeljko Mavrovic on March 18, 2000. That fight was actually tenatively scheduled for that date, but Mavrovic pulled out due to health problems. But assuming he was rusty (after 18 month lay off) but not ill, how would he do against young Wlad, who already got an invaluable experience against Ross Puritty and showed as much more mature fighter against Axel Shulz?
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Wlad outboxes Mavrovic pretty clearly to the decision.

George Foreman vs Larry Holmes after their Holyfield bouts, about late 1992 - early 1993.
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Jock McAvoy vs Freddie Steele - MW

Bert Gilroy vs Tony Zale - MW
Ernie Roderick vs Fritzie Zivic - WW

Freddie Mills vs Billy Conn - L-HW
Robert Villimain vs Roberto Duran - WW


and hundreds more.
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jimglen wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 14:54 Jock McAvoy vs Freddie Steele - MW

Bert Gilroy vs Tony Zale - MW
Ernie Roderick vs Fritzie Zivic - WW

Freddie Mills vs Billy Conn - L-HW
Robert Villimain vs Roberto Duran - WW


and hundreds more.

You didnt' give an outcome...... which I understtod was the spirit of the hypthetical...before you give your single hypothetical.

However I'll chime in on yours..........in a very rare set of coincidences, .the three fights you suggest all end in draws.

And the "hundreds" more end up in various MD's, SD's, UD's, TKO's and KO's. Depending the specific nature of the events.
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DrDuke wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 14:40 Wlad outboxes Mavrovic pretty clearly to the decision.

George Foreman vs Larry Holmes after their Holyfield bouts, about late 1992 - early 1993.
Holmes by MD on judges cards.

Ike Ibeabuchi vs Michael Grant, November 1999.
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Ibeabuchi by KO in the 4th.

Michael Spinks vs Tim Witherspoon in late 1985 - early 1986.
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DrDuke wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 15:24 Ibeabuchi by KO in the 4th.

Michael Spinks vs Tim Witherspoon in late 1985 - early 1986.
Witherspoon TKO9

Mike Tyson vs Ray Mercer in January, 2002, as it was planned until Lewis sued Tyson, because he was afraid he'd lose his huge (and easy) money.
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wrong post reply, sorry.
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BoxBuzz wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 15:13
jimglen wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 14:54 Jock McAvoy vs Freddie Steele - MW

Bert Gilroy vs Tony Zale - MW
Ernie Roderick vs Fritzie Zivic - WW

Freddie Mills vs Billy Conn - L-HW
Robert Villimain vs Roberto Duran - WW


and hundreds more.

You didnt' give an outcome...... which I understtod was the spirit of the hypthetical...before you give your single hypothetical.

However I'll chime in on yours..........in a very rare set of coincidences, .the three fights you suggest all end in draws.

And the "hundreds" more end up in various MD's, SD's, UD's, TKO's and KO's. Depending the specific nature of the events.
sorry Buzz, I just posted fights I thought would have been great as they all could've happened and were even spoke about. I see them all as 50/50 fights with equal possiblities and outcomes for them.


But Villimain vs Duran, the law tells us we must choose Duran, but I don't know, not only did Villimain prove the TOP Euro men were just as good, his Era 'generally' superceeds most others, so I honestly don't know. I'd give him a great chance, though I'd have to give in to the law as well.
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Boxing Writer wrote: 07 Jul 2018, 15:41 Witherspoon TKO9

Mike Tyson vs Ray Mercer in January, 2002, as it was planned until Lewis sued Tyson, because he was afraid he'd lose his huge (and easy) money.
Tyson by close decision.

Gerrie Coetzee vs Trevor Berbick in 1983-1984.
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Berbick unaminous decision...


Jim Braddock vs Max Schmeling
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