carlos monzon vs tommy hearns

[tommo100]

at middleweight,who wins?????

[Tomasino]

I'd say Monzon by TKO 13. It could happen a lot earlier too. Hearns would have to be fast on his feet and avoid trading too much.

[DrDuke]

It's an interesting match-up. Monzon was a practitioner of the rational and methidical style, while it was almost impossible to outbox prime Hearns. Monzon used his size and reach to outjab his opponents, but Hearns as well and he had advantage in height and reach. However, there are some huge advantages for Monzon - he could take a punch, while he was precise and hard-hitting himself and he could use it very well against not so iron-chinned Hearns. Tommy could look confident early, but Monzon would have caught him. Carlos by KO.

[APerno]

Pick 'um - whoever has he better night that night.

[elmersalsa]

Monzon. Much stronger. Better chin. Once he got you figured out, it's a long night for you.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Hearns wins by Close Decision Tommy Fought as high as Cruiserweight so Monzon size will not be a problem and that Hitman Jab plus The KO Power would be too much for The Great Monzon and the 10 men who had draw's with Monzon would not get a job sparring the Hitman.

[nobleart1978]

I can see Monzon winning by a stoppage.

Hearns was a devastating hitter but was also very vulnerable chin and stamina wise.

I can see Hearns' legs going in this one. Bad news for Tommy if he gets hit on the chin and to the body.

MONZON by TKO

[Abradolf Lincler]

On paper Hearns has a stylistic advantage. Monzon isn't the taller man for a change, and his jab-right tailored style is nullified by Tommy's proficiency in those two departments. Coupled with an obvious speed advantage, it's easy to see why some might make the mistake of favoring him.

It is a mistake, because strength and durability are the key factors over 15 rounds here, given that both men would be essentially playing the same game. And there's no doubt who holds the clear edges there. Hearns might out-box him for a while, but once King Carlos starts to put the pressure on and time the right, he isn't gonna be able to hang in a fire fight the whole way through. Monzon TKO11.

[BoxBuzz]

These guys would be all business, but Monzon's ability to absorb the incoming is the key. Also the bigger stronger man. And the only advantage Tommy has is his speed, which is more than kept in check by Monzon's outstanding accuracy. Tommy may well have campaigned at higher weights, but his MW career and above was simply not on the par with what Monzon brings.

Monzon beats Ray, Hagler, Duran Barkley, McCallum, Mugabi, McClellan, Jackson (some of those guys might be a bit small to even consider a fight vs Monzon) , and everyone/anyone else who laced up MW gloves from that era. Don't even think Tommy would be his toughest fight from that crew. I think Hagler would likely be.

[DrDuke]

These guys would be all business, but Monzon's ability to absorb the incoming is the key. Also the bigger stronger man. And the only advantage Tommy has is his speed, which is more than kept in check by Monzon's outstanding accuracy. Tommy may well have campaigned at higher weights, but his MW career and above was simply not on the par with what Monzon brings.

Monzon beats Ray, Hagler, Duran Barkley, McCallum, Mugabi, McClellan, Jackson (some of those guys might be a bit small to even consider a fight vs Monzon) , and everyone/anyone else who laced up MW gloves from that era. Don't even think Tommy would be his toughest fight from that crew. I think Hagler would likely be.

That's right. Ray would be along with Hagler, but, yes, Monzon is still favoured against them both.

[elmersalsa]

These guys would be all business, but Monzon's ability to absorb the incoming is the key. Also the bigger stronger man. And the only advantage Tommy has is his speed, which is more than kept in check by Monzon's outstanding accuracy. Tommy may well have campaigned at higher weights, but his MW career and above was simply not on the par with what Monzon brings.

Monzon beats Ray, Hagler, Duran Barkley, McCallum, Mugabi, McClellan, Jackson (some of those guys might be a bit small to even consider a fight vs Monzon) , and everyone/anyone else who laced up MW gloves from that era. Don't even think Tommy would be his toughest fight from that crew. I think Hagler would likely be.

That's right. Ray would be along with Hagler, but, yes, Monzon is still favoured against them both.

I hope that you are saying Ray Robinson instead of Ray Leonard.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

These guys would be all business, but Monzon's ability to absorb the incoming is the key. Also the bigger stronger man. And the only advantage Tommy has is his speed, which is more than kept in check by Monzon's outstanding accuracy. Tommy may well have campaigned at higher weights, but his MW career and above was simply not on the par with what Monzon brings.

Monzon beats Ray, Hagler, Duran Barkley, McCallum, Mugabi, McClellan, Jackson (some of those guys might be a bit small to even consider a fight vs Monzon) , and everyone/anyone else who laced up MW gloves from that era. Don't even think Tommy would be his toughest fight from that crew. I think Hagler would likely be.

That's right. Ray would be along with Hagler, but, yes, Monzon is still favoured against them both.

I hope that you are saying Ray Robinson instead of Ray Leonard.

Elma both RAYS KICKS HIS BUM them 10 draws that Mozon had bahahahahahahaha

[BoxBuzz]

That's right. Ray would be along with Hagler, but, yes, Monzon is still favoured against them both.

I hope that you are saying Ray Robinson instead of Ray Leonard.

Elma both RAYS KICKS HIS BUM them 10 draws that Mozon had bahahahahahahaha

Clive......I truly believe you do know that the most negative assumption in this case is quite likely about 80% wrong.
But it is fun to imagine that he lost them all, and someone pulled his ass from the fire. I mean...it's just more interesting that way.

Spending some time learning more about the common practices of those times, in that area, and the boxing cultural norms would take time and effort. But it would reveal a far less exciting set of circumstances than your dramatic deduction in this case.. I mean 10 (or was it perhaps another number?) losses that were fixed Primo Carnera style is just so much more tittilating. Even if it's a lazy assumption.

[BoxBuzz]

Speaking of lazy......you don't even mention the many return to the ring successful revisit adventures that are ALSO part of the record.

It's as if....you had dog in this race.....a preference......a wish to put your thumb on the scale of assessments.

If you would have mentioned his remakable dedication to go back and revisit those draws....(rather successfuly I might add) I would be less concerned regarding your clear position on his lack of efficacy as a puglist.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

I hope that you are saying Ray Robinson instead of Ray Leonard.

Elma both RAYS KICKS HIS BUM them 10 draws that Mozon had bahahahahahahaha

Clive......I truly believe you do know that the most negative assumption in this case is quite likely about 80% wrong.
But it is fun to imagine that he lost them all, and someone pulled his ass from the fire. I mean...it's just more interesting that way.

Spending some time learning more about the common practices of those times, in that area, and the boxing cultural norms would take time and effort. But it would reveal a far less exciting set of circumstances than your dramatic deduction in this case.. I mean 10 (or was it perhaps another number?) losses that were fixed Primo Carnera style is just so much more tittilating. Even if it's a lazy assumption.

[BoxBuzz]

Hold it right there Clive.....I didn't come here to be made sport of.

[SenorPipino]

Many consider Monzon to be the best middleweight ever. Certainly a top 5 guy.

I don't recall anyone suggesting that Hearns was an ATG 160 pounder.

Monzon just too strong for Hearns. Like another top middleweight in Hagler, Monzon figures to take anything Hearns could dish out.

It's unlikely that Hearns could absorb the punishment Monzon would offer.

Monzon by KO within 9.

[Esquire]

Emanuel Steward said many times that Hearns had big problems with opponents that were physically stronger than him.

Opponents of Monzon said he was brutally strong.

I think Hearns would land some big shots along the way before getting roughed up and stopped after the 10th round.

[cfang]

I can see why some would pick hearns but it's Carlos all day for me. He was just more solid and sooner or later he'd take Tommy out. I'm sure of it.