And still one of the most entertaining boxer worldwide

[Sorono]

When i watch canelo, crawford, mikey and danny and compare it to 39 year old manny, than i am surprised that a old boxer at the very end of his career is still more entertaining in the ring than those 20-30 year old wannabes.

Canelo, a body builder with slow feet that told 100 times the press how he is going to make canelo ggg an action packed fight and when it was fighttime all he dud was run run run

Crawford, who acts like a big shot, never once beat or faced an a class opponent, fights tentetive, waits 10 years to let punches go.

Mikey, another delusional, slow and boring. Tenetive, waiting for counters. Rarly pushing the action. Never fought a class, but acts like a Superstar.

Than you got a close to 40 boxer, who puches the action, lets combos go, has a free style, who has been fighting mostly a class since ~13 years and still is more entertaining to watch than these ducking loud mouthes.

[Thomastearns]

When i watch canelo, crawford, mikey and danny and compare it to 39 year old manny, than i am surprised that a old boxer at the very end of his career is still more entertaining in the ring than those 20-30 year old wannabes.

Canelo, a body builder with slow feet that told 100 times the press how he is going to make canelo ggg an action packed fight and when it was fighttime all he dud was run run run

Crawford, who acts like a big shot, never once beat or faced an a class opponent, fights tentetive, waits 10 years to let punches go.

Mikey, another delusional, slow and boring. Tenetive, waiting for counters. Rarly pushing the action. Never fought a class, but acts like a Superstar.

Than you got a close to 40 boxer, who puches the action, lets combos go, has a free style, who has been fighting mostly a class since ~13 years and still is more entertaining to watch than these ducking loud mouthes.

Which is why he is a boxing legend respected by fans on a truly global level and they aren't even close.

[Enlightened-One]

Manny's accomplishments in the sport of boxing are highly
-admirable, assuming he's always been "clean" despite his penchant for regularly refusing to undergo random unannounced blood-based drug testing. And there are a lot of genuine reasons to suspect that he's used PED's at some point throughout his career.

His out-of-ring conduct has been utterly disgraceful and he should not be applauded for some of the dodgy shenanigans that he's got up to over the years.

I enjoy watching Manny's fights, but I'm under no illusion about his blatantly obvious character flaws.

[Sorono]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

[Enlightened-One]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

Pacquiao's character flaws are monstrosity huge. There's no justification for them. They cannot be defended using the "he's merely human" excuse.

Read up on the man and then revise your opinion.

I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Education is a marvellous thing!

[SenorPipino]

I've never felt that Pac is anywhere close to evil.

Has his flaws and made mistakes like the rest of us.

But he's not a bad guy.

[Mexi-Box]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

Pacquiao's character flaws are monstrosity huge. There's no justification for them. They cannot be defended using the "he's merely human" excuse.

Read up on the man and then revise your opinion.

I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Education is a marvellous thing!

No, you get all homotional and speak from emotions than facts.

[Mexi-Box]

Manny's accomplishments in the sport of boxing are highly
-admirable, assuming he's always been "clean" despite his penchant for regularly refusing to undergo random unannounced blood-based drug testing. And there are a lot of genuine reasons to suspect that he's used PED's at some point throughout his career.

His out-of-ring conduct has been utterly disgraceful and he should not be applauded for some of the dodgy shenanigans that he's got up to over the years.

I enjoy watching Manny's fights, but I'm under no illusion about his blatantly obvious character flaws.

You are just a bias troll. Pacquiao went random testing for the Rios fight. There are no genuine reasons unless you get all homotional again.

[Enlightened-One]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

Pacquiao's character flaws are monstrosity huge. There's no justification for them. They cannot be defended using the "he's merely human" excuse.

Read up on the man and then revise your opinion.

I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Education is a marvellous thing!

No, you get all homotional and speak from emotions than facts.

I already listed facts and tou responded using personal insults aimed at me rather than addressing each point I raised.

You can't defend Manny's behaviour by citing facts and logic, so instead you try to undermine the credibility of the person conveying an accurate reflection of reality.

[Enlightened-One]

Manny's accomplishments in the sport of boxing are highly
-admirable, assuming he's always been "clean" despite his penchant for regularly refusing to undergo random unannounced blood-based drug testing. And there are a lot of genuine reasons to suspect that he's used PED's at some point throughout his career.

His out-of-ring conduct has been utterly disgraceful and he should not be applauded for some of the dodgy shenanigans that he's got up to over the years.

I enjoy watching Manny's fights, but I'm under no illusion about his blatantly obvious character flaws.

You are just a bias troll. Pacquiao went random testing for the Rios fight. There are no genuine reasons unless you get all homotional again.

You can't deal with facts, because they offend you too much.

I tell you what, if am a troll, a forum moderator is welcome to issue me with a permanent ban if any of my claims relating to Manny Pacquiao are factually incorrect.

They won't even attempt to do this though, because they're not living in denial, by pretending that real world historical events didn't happen, when they clearly did!

[Mexi-Box]

Pacquiao's character flaws are monstrosity huge. There's no justification for them. They cannot be defended using the "he's merely human" excuse.

Read up on the man and then revise your opinion.

I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Education is a marvellous thing!

No, you get all homotional and speak from emotions than facts.

I already listed facts and tou responded using personal insults aimed at me rather than addressing each point I raised.

You can't defend Manny's behaviour by citing facts and logic, so instead you try to undermine the credibility of the person conveying an accurate reflection of reality.

You didn't list any court documents or anything. All you did was pull things out of context and say they're facts. You do this all the damn time. You're just a bias troll, simple. You don't deal in facts. You just dial with homotional outburts.

[Enlightened-One]

No, you get all homotional and speak from emotions than facts.

I already listed facts and tou responded using personal insults aimed at me rather than addressing each point I raised.

You can't defend Manny's behaviour by citing facts and logic, so instead you try to undermine the credibility of the person conveying an accurate reflection of reality.

You didn't list any court documents or anything. All you did was pull things out of context and say they're facts. You do this all the damn time. You're just a bias troll, simple. You don't deal in facts. You just dial with homotional outburts.

There are legal documents detailing Manny's refusal to pay taxes in both the US and also the Phillipines.

In terms of Manny being a bigot, a serial adulterer etc., well that's based on his own words, which resulted in him losing multi-million dollar promotional contracts.

You clearly don't know anything about Manny Pacquiao's conduct outside the ring, otherwise you wouldn't even bother challenging me on this.

You need to do better... stop defending a man you know nothing about!

Come on kid, either challenge each point I raised head on or remain silent? Your attempts to insult me instead of addressing the actual issues I raised are merely an admission of defeat on your part.

[Thomastearns]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

Most do their utmost to hide them diligently, living in fear of exposure or censure. Especially celebrities with huge amounts of money to lose. Say nothing, do nothing, turn a blind eye to the disgraceful amounts of poverty and exploitation happening daily in many parts of the world. Just keep an eye on the growing bank balances and pay lip service to the fans and the media.

Pacquiao's actions in trying to help people and give something back far outweigh any 'moral' transgressions he may have committed in my mind.

Besides, I'd take honest opinions over hypocrisy any time, regardless of whether I agreed with them or not. Without honesty, you know next to nothing about somebody.

[Enlightened-One]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

Most do their utmost to hide them diligently, living in fear of exposure or censure. Especially celebrities with huge amounts of money to lose. Say nothing, do nothing, turn a blind eye to the disgraceful amounts of poverty and exploitation happening daily in many parts of the world. Just keep an eye on the growing bank balances and pay lip service to the fans and the media.

Pacquiao's actions in trying to help people and give something back far outweigh any 'moral' transgressions he may have committed in my mind.

Besides, I'd take honest opinions over hypocrisy any time, regardless of whether I agreed with them or not. Without honesty, you know next to nothing about somebody.

Manny's financial contributions to charities are dwarfed by the amount of taxes he owes to both the US and Phillipine governments.

Pacquiao isn't the modern day equivalent of Robin Hood, he's a multi-millionaire who also happens to be a senator, member of congress or politician.

[Lackeos]

I don't know why people act like Pacquiao is a useless old lump of crap. Dude still has a good engine, boxes intelligently, and can still outbox good opponents. That was a nice fight.

[SenorPipino]

I don't know why people act like Pacquiao is a useless old lump of crap. Dude still has a good engine, boxes intelligently, and can still outbox good opponents. That was a nice fight.

I've long maintained that Pac is past his prime but hardly washed up, as so many insist.

He has been sliding since the first Bradley bout, but remains head and shoulders above all but a select few 147 pounders.

But let's keep last night in perspective. Matthysse offered next to nothing at 36.

Pac looked good, but did he have much in front of him in Kuala Lumpur.

Who's next for him so we can actually see if Pac can again appear that dominant against a live body that wants to fight?

[Sorono]

Manny is a human. All humans arent perfect and have character flaws.

Pacquiao's character flaws are monstrosity huge. There's no justification for them. They cannot be defended using the "he's merely human" excuse.

Read up on the man and then revise your opinion.

I could write a "War & Peace" sized novel about his mistakes.

Education is a marvellous thing!

You realize that he was born poor. Very poor, he had nothing. No education, no guidance, only talent for boxing and the mentality to train hard and achieve goals.

I also dont like that he tortured animals etc., but i know 0 boxer on a personal level and frankly all i care about is if they are entertaining to watch or not and manny even at the age of 39 is more entertaining to watch than 98 % of the boxers today.

[Sorono]

I don't know why people act like Pacquiao is a useless old lump of crap. Dude still has a good engine, boxes intelligently, and can still outbox good opponents. That was a nice fight.

And his uppercuts are still powerful.

[Sorono]

Enlighten one

Tax is very complicated since taxes are different in many states in the usa and handled differently in every country.

You are not envolved in the case and dont know all the details. So stop pretending like you know that manny is all bad and that it is 100 % his fought.

You want my honest truth. Nobody likes taxes!

[Enlightened-One]

Enlighten one

Tax is very complicated since taxes are different in many states in the usa and handled differently in every country.

You are not envolved in the case and dont know all the details. So stop pretending like you know that manny is all bad and that it is 100 % his fought.

You want my honest truth. Nobody likes taxes!

You're not even challenging the accuracy of my points are you? Are you aware that HE sacked an accountancy firm auditing his financial affairs when they discovered inconsistencies, which occurred a few years before his mammoth tax burden became public?

Don't comment on things you've made no effort to research.

If I'm wrong, then challenge each point head on.

Don't pretend I don't know what I am talking about when you make no attempt to challenge the factual accuracy of my claims.

[squiggy]

His taxes have fuckall to do with him being entertaining in the ring.

[Grant]

His taxes have fuckall to do with him being entertaining in the ring.

[Mexi-Box]

I already listed facts and tou responded using personal insults aimed at me rather than addressing each point I raised.

You can't defend Manny's behaviour by citing facts and logic, so instead you try to undermine the credibility of the person conveying an accurate reflection of reality.

You didn't list any court documents or anything. All you did was pull things out of context and say they're facts. You do this all the damn time. You're just a bias troll, simple. You don't deal in facts. You just dial with homotional outburts.

There are legal documents detailing Manny's refusal to pay taxes in both the US and also the Phillipines.

In terms of Manny being a bigot, a serial adulterer etc., well that's based on his own words, which resulted in him losing multi-million dollar promotional contracts.

You clearly don't know anything about Manny Pacquiao's conduct outside the ring, otherwise you wouldn't even bother challenging me on this.

You need to do better... stop defending a man you know nothing about!

Come on kid, either challenge each point I raised head on or remain silent? Your attempts to insult me instead of addressing the actual issues I raised are merely an admission of defeat on your part.

You've made no attempts to tell me who was filing Pacquiao's taxes. You clearly don't know anything about his situation and are just speculating.

By the way, I don't even file my own taxes. I'm sure someone with Pacquiao's educational background knows the ins-and-outs, though.

[Enlightened-One]

You didn't list any court documents or anything. All you did was pull things out of context and say they're facts. You do this all the damn time. You're just a bias troll, simple. You don't deal in facts. You just dial with homotional outburts.

There are legal documents detailing Manny's refusal to pay taxes in both the US and also the Phillipines.

In terms of Manny being a bigot, a serial adulterer etc., well that's based on his own words, which resulted in him losing multi-million dollar promotional contracts.

You clearly don't know anything about Manny Pacquiao's conduct outside the ring, otherwise you wouldn't even bother challenging me on this.

You need to do better... stop defending a man you know nothing about!

Come on kid, either challenge each point I raised head on or remain silent? Your attempts to insult me instead of addressing the actual issues I raised are merely an admission of defeat on your part.

You've made no attempts to tell me who was filing Pacquiao's taxes. You clearly don't know anything about his situation and are just speculating.

By the way, I don't even file my own taxes. I'm sure someone with Pacquiao's educational background knows the ins-and-outs, though.

Are any of the points I've raised incorrect?

Do they not accurately reflect reality?

This forum is filled to the brim with die-hard Pacquiao fans, but they've refrained from challenging the points raised in my posts, because they know that I'm simply speaking the truth.

You can try to employ red herring diversionary debating tactics if you want, as a weak attempt to move the topic of discussion onto safer ground for yourself, but this won't work, because I am speaking the truth... and knowledgeable boxing fans know this too.

[Mexi-Box]

There are legal documents detailing Manny's refusal to pay taxes in both the US and also the Phillipines.

In terms of Manny being a bigot, a serial adulterer etc., well that's based on his own words, which resulted in him losing multi-million dollar promotional contracts.

You clearly don't know anything about Manny Pacquiao's conduct outside the ring, otherwise you wouldn't even bother challenging me on this.

You need to do better... stop defending a man you know nothing about!

Come on kid, either challenge each point I raised head on or remain silent? Your attempts to insult me instead of addressing the actual issues I raised are merely an admission of defeat on your part.

You've made no attempts to tell me who was filing Pacquiao's taxes. You clearly don't know anything about his situation and are just speculating.

By the way, I don't even file my own taxes. I'm sure someone with Pacquiao's educational background knows the ins-and-outs, though.

Are any of the points I've raised incorrect?

Do they not accurately reflect reality?

This forum is filled to the brim with die-hard Pacquiao fans, but they've refrained from challenging the points raised in my posts, because they know that I'm simply speaking the truth.

You can try to employ red herring diversionary debating tactics if you want, as a weak attempt to move the topic of discussion onto safer ground for yourself, but this won't work, because I am speaking the truth... and knowledgeable boxing fans know this too.

Still waiting for what I asked. All you have done is speculate. You always put out information out of context then talk about facts. Instead all you provide are biases and a homotional agenda. It's your signature.