Usyk - Gassiev on KlowdTV in the US

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I have an almost shot-out, gave Gassiev only the 4rth.
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Usyk 12-0 Gassiev

That was by far THE BIGGEST 12-rounds domination since Klitschko vs Povetkin. But this fight was much more aesthetically pleasing.
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Struggle to give gassiev more than a round. Usyc clearly the king of the cruisers, great fighter...very frustrating and effective style.
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Pretty funny hearing that the #2 CW in the world only lost because he's tailor-made for the top guy. :lol:

What a ridiculous post. Gassiev isn't on Usyk and Briedis' level. Called it from the start that we saw the real #1 vs. #2 in Usyk/Briedis.

Gassiev honestly had the easier path to the title. Dorticos is irrelevant compared to the top 3 fighters at the moment.
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Absolute masterclass by Usyk :bow:
3x 120 : 108 wouldn’t surprise or outrage me.
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Please tell us you are moving up Usyk. The HW division needs to you clean it out badly. Need to take out the jokes in Joshua and Wilder.
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Some credit to Gassiev, at least he didn't quit.
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And here's the best cruiserweight ever after the great Evander Holyfield.
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KiwiRider wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:06
TempleSlave wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:02 Gassiev turned out to be tailor-made for Usyk. End of the story.
Gassiev is taylor made for Bellew too.
I’d like to see this but not rating Bellew. Not based on him annihilating Haye.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:11 Pretty funny hearing that the #2 CW in the world only lost because he's tailor-made for the top guy. :lol:

What a ridiculous post. Gassiev isn't on Usyk and Briedis' level. Called it from the start that we saw the real #1 vs. #2 in Usyk/Briedis.

Gassiev honestly had the easier path to the title. Dorticos is irrelevant compared to the top 3 fighters at the moment.
Don’t be a smart ass. Usyk hasn’t look that good in literally any of his previous title fights, hence my comment.
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KiwiRider wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:15 Some credit to Gassiev, at least he didn't quit.
Yep, and he acted with class throughout the whole series.
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phillykid wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:22
KiwiRider wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:15 Some credit to Gassiev, at least he didn't quit.
Yep, and he acted with class throughout the whole series.
Yes !
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TempleSlave wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:17
Mexi-Box wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:11 Pretty funny hearing that the #2 CW in the world only lost because he's tailor-made for the top guy. :lol:

What a ridiculous post. Gassiev isn't on Usyk and Briedis' level. Called it from the start that we saw the real #1 vs. #2 in Usyk/Briedis.

Gassiev honestly had the easier path to the title. Dorticos is irrelevant compared to the top 3 fighters at the moment.
Don’t be a smart ass. Usyk hasn’t look that good in literally any of his previous title fights, hence my comment.
Usyk was pin point perfect. Performance reminded me of what winky Wright did to Tito Trinidad. Similar clash of styles. Very valid that you are talking styles.
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TempleSlave wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:17
Mexi-Box wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:11 Pretty funny hearing that the #2 CW in the world only lost because he's tailor-made for the top guy. :lol:

What a ridiculous post. Gassiev isn't on Usyk and Briedis' level. Called it from the start that we saw the real #1 vs. #2 in Usyk/Briedis.

Gassiev honestly had the easier path to the title. Dorticos is irrelevant compared to the top 3 fighters at the moment.
Don’t be a smart ass. Usyk hasn’t look that good in literally any of his previous title fights, hence my comment.
Fair enough, but Usyk has looked great throughout his career. His style, of course, he's going to get hit at times. He's also fought some outrageously different styles as a professional.

I'd just say that Usyk had a stylistic advantage, not that Gassiev was tailor-made for him.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:32
TempleSlave wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:17
Mexi-Box wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:11 Pretty funny hearing that the #2 CW in the world only lost because he's tailor-made for the top guy. :lol:

What a ridiculous post. Gassiev isn't on Usyk and Briedis' level. Called it from the start that we saw the real #1 vs. #2 in Usyk/Briedis.

Gassiev honestly had the easier path to the title. Dorticos is irrelevant compared to the top 3 fighters at the moment.
Don’t be a smart ass. Usyk hasn’t look that good in literally any of his previous title fights, hence my comment.
Fair enough, but Usyk has looked great throughout his career. His style, of course, he's going to get hit at times. He's also fought some outrageously different styles as a professional.

I'd just say that Usyk had a stylistic advantage, not that Gassiev was tailor-made for him.
Usyk was better in every single aspect of the game. I was expecting a clash of styles and a competitive fight - probably mainly based on Usyk-Briedis fight. I assumed Briedis was a fairly similar boxer to Gassiev but I thought Gassiev more composed and possibly having more to offer offensively. I knew Usyk is super skilled and moved fabulously but I thought Briedis hit him a lot and therefore Gassiev has a good chance. I was wrong :lol:
Looking back to Dorticos fight I did recall thinking Gassiev was only able to connect so much because the Cuban would stay right in front and was lacking any lateral movement at all which Usyk was a total opposite tonight. Great f.cking win for AU. Not threatened for a second in the fight that, as many (including myself :brick: ) thought, was 50:50.
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Should be pretty clear that Gassiev and Briedis aren't the same fighter. Usyk has been undersold by some, that's for certain.
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TempleSlave wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 19:09
Mexi-Box wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:32
TempleSlave wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 18:17
Don’t be a smart ass. Usyk hasn’t look that good in literally any of his previous title fights, hence my comment.
Fair enough, but Usyk has looked great throughout his career. His style, of course, he's going to get hit at times. He's also fought some outrageously different styles as a professional.

I'd just say that Usyk had a stylistic advantage, not that Gassiev was tailor-made for him.
I was expecting a clash of styles and a competitive fight
It was a clash of styles, but one side was significantly more experienced and using a better trainer. I wish we could see a 28-30-year old Gassiev against current Usyk.
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when usyk boxes he is red hot, that was great stuff. hes less effectie when he forces his offense and tries being too much of the come forward agressor

gass got schooled

usyk is the #2 cruiser ever
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Amazingly phenomenal performance by Usyk. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before. Great sportsmanship too, refreshing contrast to the crap you see here and in UK. One thing surprised me, though, how little effect all of Ussyk's punches had on G.

If the fight had been held in Last Vegas the judges would have given it to Gassiev.
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gassiev has a legit good chin and usyks not a puncher, no surprise that gas took them well

lebedev and dort could really hurt gas either
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Blodhemn wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 20:05 Should be pretty clear that Gassiev and Briedis aren't the same fighter. Usyk has been undersold by some, that's for certain.
Of course they’re not the same. I was really impressed by Usyk vs Glowacki and then when I saw him vs Briedis I thought he looked surprisingly hittable. I thought if Gassiev can connect as successfully as Briedis, he would give Usyk some serious trouble but Usyk seemed to have different game plan and fought a perfect fight. I was expecting things to possibly change in the later rounds but neither Gas had a plan B, nor Usyk would tire. I still want to see Gassiev vs Briedis which would give some answers to the speculations, plus would no doubt be a good scrap.
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x2x wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 23:12 Amazingly phenomenal performance by Usyk. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before. Great sportsmanship too, refreshing contrast to the crap you see here and in UK. One thing surprised me, though, how little effect all of Ussyk's punches had on G.

If the fight had been held in Last Vegas the judges would have given it to Gassiev.
Haha man I think I’d never watch a boxing fight again!
IMO either Usyk doesn’t hit very hard or/and he was aware Gassiev beard is made of concrete and decided to not even put a lot of power in his punches and go for volume and boxing which turned out to be a perfect plan. Sweet science at its finest.
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It went exactly as I expected except I thought Gassiev would offer a lot more challenge.

Usyk has to move up now there's nothing for him to prove at Cruiserweight. I don't think he beats Joshua but he's one of just a few that (as of now) would be in with a chance. Usyk boxed rings around Joyce who is Joshua's size but lacks the hand-speed, and is slower around the ring too.

Now if Usyk could really punch it might be a different story but Sasha doesn't hit especially hard even for a Cruiserweight, and anyone who can't make Joshua respectful of their punching power is going to be at a serious disadvantage. I can't think of anyone who is likely to trouble AJ so much as Usyk with technique as opposed to outright power (Wilder) though.
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TempleSlave wrote: 22 Jul 2018, 07:14
Blodhemn wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 20:05 Should be pretty clear that Gassiev and Briedis aren't the same fighter. Usyk has been undersold by some, that's for certain.
Of course they’re not the same. I was really impressed by Usyk vs Glowacki and then when I saw him vs Briedis I thought he looked surprisingly hittable. I thought if Gassiev can connect as successfully as Briedis, he would give Usyk some serious trouble but Usyk seemed to have different game plan and fought a perfect fight. I was expecting things to possibly change in the later rounds but neither Gas had a plan B, nor Usyk would tire. I still want to see Gassiev vs Briedis which would give some answers to the speculations, plus would no doubt be a good scrap.
No need to over explain habitual bad assumptions. It is what it is.
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