Parker should retire

[candyslim]

That is totally stupid. You think a 26-year-old boxer with 2 losses who makes 6-7 figures a fight should retire? By this logic, Adrien Broner should've retired after the Shawn Porter fight in 2015. Pacquiao should have retired after the Sangsurat fight in 1999. Juan Francisco Estrada should've retired after the Gonzalez fight in 2012. Bernard Hopkins should've retired after the RJJ loss in 1993. You really don't understand the boxing business at all, and this is a totally sh*t thread.

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Parker was 20 seconds away from taking Whyte out in the last. He'll watch that fight back and kick himself. He's still got plenty left to offer.

And this.

Can't accuse Dillian of leaving gas in the tank, lol. Does he get any respect now or is Parker just another highly touted Whyte opponent that in the final analysis turned out to be 'not all that'?

[KiwiRider]

His future is at regional boganland/New Zealand level defending some regional trinket with perhaps the odd trip to Europe.

Oi!
I both resent and resemble that allegation!

[paddy chavez]

Parker needs to change trainers he reminded me of a British fighter of the ,80s/90s as in he had the tools but he didn't have the cute moved that make a top fighter .

[Syntax Error]

There are many fighters who should retire & Joseph Parker is not one of them.

He needs to change his approach & his trainer & then get back out there as soon as possible.

[greg]

..a 26-year-young top ten HW millionaire to retire because he looked disinterested in his last fight and lost it? What about the rest less lucky 1200+ HW boxers in the boxrec database?

[jamamb]

dont agree with op but can kinda see what hes saying

a rest and change in team would be good for joe.

[BitPlayer]

Can't accuse Dillian of leaving gas in the tank, lol. Does he get any respect now or is Parker just another highly touted Whyte opponent that in the final analysis turned out to be 'not all that'?

No, Whyte deserves credit. Parker is still a good opponent to beat, Whyte is showing improvement along with the old desire, but doesn't change that Parker could have done much better and didn't.

[candyslim]

Yes I was being a little sarcastic. I think Dillian is great (attitude not ability) and I get a little pissed off when highly regarded fighters suddenly become worthless bums once he's beaten them.

I'm just waiting for all the complaints about his stretching of the queensbury rules, how he was 20 seconds from defeat, and how Parker didn't have the stomach for the fight and was easy pickin's

[jamamb]

lol who were all the other highly touted whyte opponents? you mean luke?

[Stuarty]

Parker was 20 seconds away from taking Whyte out in the last. He'll watch that fight back and kick himself. He's still got plenty left to offer.

Disagree

He is not a top 10 HW because he lacks power, and without power at HW you are always going to drop decisions against the elite guys.

His future is at regional boganland/New Zealand level defending some regional trinket with perhaps the odd trip to Europe.

So he should retire at 26/27 years old? Behave man!

[ValMar]

He lost ,yesterday, from the top 10 HW, by close UD. His opponent deserved the victory, from time to time he was a little bit dirty (less than Wlad against Povetkin, or Brook against Porter) and had the referee on his side, slightly, but evidently. He should have been punished by deduction of 1 point, definitely. But, let me repeat - Whyte deservedly won in the very decent and competitive fight.
So, Parker should not retire, he is still top 10 HW, young and strong, and a genuine gentleman. I can imagine him to take part in the battles for the belts (2020 - 2025). We, boxing fans, need Joe Parker, boxing with him is much better than boxing without him.

[ewenhay]

People can't have it both ways.

Whyte deserves a lot of credit for beating Parker and edging a decision with Chisora.

Especially since Joshua seems to get a lot of credit for his 'resume', two of the highlights being a points win against Parker and a late stoppage against Takam who has just been stopped by Chisora.

Chisora who was handled easily by a fitter motivated Fury.

The gap at the top is smaller than people think.

[jamamb]

okay but then joshua also kod whyte, he who is deserving of good credit.....

[candyslim]

@jamamb 1049 post.

Well Helenius was sold as a very dangerous former golden boy expected once to be the next big thing,

Lucas Browne was the undefeated, big bad Aussie former world champion who had won his title deep in the heart of what used to be Soviet territory,

Ok maybe it was just me saw the Chisora showdown as a dangerous 50/50 ahead of the fight, but all we've heard since is how he went life and death with nothing much Dereck Chisora (ask Takam if he subscribes to that assessment),

and then of course there's the highly touted Anthony Joshua who knocked him out leading to talk of "Whyte? ... he's already been KTFOed" like a loss to AJ qualifies you as crap.

Now do yoy get where I'm coming from?.

[ewenhay]

okay but then joshua also kod whyte, he who is deserving of good credit.....

True but the point stands, the gap at the top is pretty small really. Both Joshua and Wilder are very beatable.

I think Whyte would give Joshua more problems second time around.

[ewenhay]

Also, if Ali, Frazier and Foreman were fighting today we would never have had the Rumble in the Jungle or the Thrilla in Manilla according to the logic of some people here.

"Why should Frazier fight Ali again?" we would hear. "He broke his jaw and won easily on points the first time. Nobody wants to watch a repeat of that"

"Ali v Foreman? Are you joking? Foreman knocked Frazier around like he was a rag doll and Frazier dropped Ali and broke his jaw. Joke of a fight"

People deserve the chance to rebuild and get another shot. Nothing stays the same permanently. Whyte deserves another shot in my opinion. And so would Parker if he gets back in the mix at a later date.

[ValMar]

Also, if Ali, Frazier and Foreman were fighting today we would never have had the Rumble in the Jungle or the Thrilla in Manilla according to the logic of some people here.

"Why should Frazier fight Ali again?" we would hear. "He broke his jaw and won easily on points the first time. Nobody wants to watch a repeat of that"

"Ali v Foreman? Are you joking? Foreman knocked Frazier around like he was a rag doll and Frazier dropped Ali and broke his jaw. Joke of a fight"

People deserve the chance to rebuild and get another shot. Nothing stays the same permanently. Whyte deserves another shot in my opinion. And so would Parker if he gets back in the mix at a later date.

I agree.............

[candyslim]

So do I

[jamamb]

@jamamb 1049 post.

Well Helenius was sold as a very dangerous former golden boy expected once to be the next big thing,

Lucas Browne was the undefeated, big bad Aussie former world champion who had won his title deep in the heart of what used to be Soviet territory,

Ok maybe it was just me saw the Chisora showdown as a dangerous 50/50 ahead of the fight, but all we've heard since is how he went life and death with nothing much Dereck Chisora (ask Takam if he subscribes to that assessment),

and then of course there's the highly touted Anthony Joshua who knocked him out leading to talk of "Whyte? ... he's already been KTFOed" like a loss to AJ qualifies you as crap.

Now do yoy get where I'm coming from?.

kinds of get you though i think you exaggerate a bit, for example there rreally wasnt much helenius hype at all by that point because hed already been splattered by duhaupas and looked pretty bad lately. also whyte was expected to deal with chisora a lot more easily then he did, so that was actually the opposite

browne though a lot of ppl talked up as a 50-50 fight and was seen as evenish but then whyte splatted him and the narrative changed like browne always sucked.

[ValMar]

@jamamb 1049 post.

Well Helenius was sold as a very dangerous former golden boy expected once to be the next big thing,

Lucas Browne was the undefeated, big bad Aussie former world champion who had won his title deep in the heart of what used to be Soviet territory,

Ok maybe it was just me saw the Chisora showdown as a dangerous 50/50 ahead of the fight, but all we've heard since is how he went life and death with nothing much Dereck Chisora (ask Takam if he subscribes to that assessment),

and then of course there's the highly touted Anthony Joshua who knocked him out leading to talk of "Whyte? ... he's already been KTFOed" like a loss to AJ qualifies you as crap.

Now do yoy get where I'm coming from?.

kinds of get you though i think you exaggerate a bit, for example there rreally wasnt much helenius hype at all by that point because hed already been splattered by duhaupas and looked pretty bad lately. also whyte was expected to deal with chisora a lot more easily then he did, so that was actually the opposite

browne though a lot of ppl talked up as a 50-50 fight and was seen as evenish but then whyte splatted him and the narrative changed like browne always sucked.

Six or seven years ago, Helenius really has been considerd as a " big HW hope".
Personally, I has been convinced he would have been the Klitschko brothers heir. I was wrong, obviously.

[DrDuke]

Of course, he shouldn't retire. He is young and he had only one tough fight through his career. He's extremely far from being a great boxer, but with the help of his promotion and the predisposing situation in the division he was a champ, so now he has a name and he's still a top competitor, what means he still can make some money and some noise.

[Thomastearns]

Parker was quite brilliant last night and could not have come closer to turning the fight completely around. No one right now is going to walk through this version of Dillian Whyte

The head clash was a major turning point taking Parker into completely new territory on foreign soil to boot. The referee scored it as knockdown and didn't exactly cover himself in glory in the rest of the fight either.

The commentators, esp Carl Froch were blindsided for most of the fight. That was a big learning fight for Parker (and for Whyte too) - a real ordeal by fire.

He went on demonstrate real class after the bout, made no excuses and conducted himself to his usual impeccable standards despite great adversity on the night.

He seems to have a similar attitude to Joshua in that he believes he can and will improve in future. I can only admire his attitude and wish him all the best in the future.

It looks real tight at the top of the division right now and the Povetkin -Joshua clash can only reveal even more.

[Espada]

He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.

I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.

All the England team should retire and never touch a football again, as they failed to press against Croatia.?? Same thing or do u think he should be able to fight again and make a living if he wants to.

In the old days boxers used to fight each other 3 or more times, now if u lose or have a bad day at the office people are screaming for them to retire, I don't get it, if there is a fight to sell and people want to pay for it let it happen,

[BitPlayer]

He's a good talented, skilled boxer. But his heart really didn't seem to be in it against Whyte, he consistently failed to press any advantage, and gave away far too much, and from his engine I have doubts his heart was in his training.

I was routing for Parker, and at first some of the dirtiness and bias for Whyte really annoyed me, but he's obviously going to get a raw deal going to the UK, he should have been ready for that, and if your opponent is getting away with it, at some point you've got to be dirty back. Parker should have been able to win that. I think he's made enough money and lost the desire. Fairplay to Whyte in the end.

All the England team should retire and never touch a football again, as they failed to press against Croatia.?? Same thing or do u think he should be able to fight again and make a living if he wants to.

In the old days boxers used to fight each other 3 or more times, now if u lose or have a bad day at the office people are screaming for them to retire, I don't get it, if there is a fight to sell and people want to pay for it let it happen,

It wasn't the loss but the half assed nature of his performance

[joshj909]

He should be far from retirement and the final round against Whyte shows it, instead he should change team and rebuild his resume which should be pretty easy for him. There are plenty of regional fights available with:

• Browne 25-1 - Former WBA Champ

• J Zhang 19-0 - WBA Oceania Title

• Z Zhang 19-0 - Olympic silver medallist

• Fujimoto 19-1 - OPBF & WBO Asia Pacific Titles

all of which would all be fairly respectable comeback fights considering he's lost his last two, and he would still be favourite for them all. Those wins could maintain his rankings in governing bodies, maybe a payday in the trans-tasman rivalry and give him an opportunity to practice against some B level fighters with his new team.