The top 5 most skillful active HWs ?

[ValMar]

Skills only......
This is my list :
1. T. Fury
2. Povetkin
3. Ortiz
4. H. Fury
5. Parker

Waiting for Usyk, of course.
What do you think ?

[DrDuke]

Skills only......
This is my list :
1. T. Fury
2. Povetkin
3. Ortiz
4. H. Fury
5. Parker

Waiting for Usyk, of course.
What do you think ?

H. Fury is raw. Parker is solid skill-wise, but can't be higher, than Joshua.

I'll rate them this way:

1. T. Fury
2. Povetkin
3. Joshua
4. Ortiz
5. Parker

[FruitStealer]

1 -Fury
2-Ortiz
3-Povetkin
4-Joshua
5-Parker

[KiwiRider]

1: T Fury
2: Povitkin
3: Yoka
4: Joshua
5: Parker

[Luis Fernando12]

1) Oleksandr Usyk

2) Oleksandr Usyk

3) Oleksandr Usyk

4) OleksandrUsyk

5) Oleksandr Usyl

....... The rest

[ewenhay]

You can't seriously have Joshua in the top 3 most skillful heavyweights

[dagilechia]

Povetkin
T Fury
Ortiz
Joshua
Pulev

[ValMar]

Joshua is an tall, strong and extremely powerful HW. His skillset is pretty decent, but I don't think he should be on this list.
The top 10 ? Likely.

[candyslim]

Tyson Fury is very hard to hit but a large part of that is (2015 version) he has exceptional mobility, and when you ally that to a 6' 7" frame and corresponding reach, it's not surprising. I don't actually consider this to be skill in it's purest form, I think the test of real boxing skill is when you don't enjoy height and reach advantage, and you can be very difficult to hit even when you are static and within range of your opponent.

The finsst exponent I've seen at heavyweight in recent years is Alexandr Povetkin, but he is in the twighlight of his career now. His place as the most skilled heavyweight will soon be taken by Oleksandr Usyk. What is it with these Sashas?

These are the two standouts as far as I'm concerned, but I am conscious that my way of looking at it means I'm in danger of discounting speed merchants and taller fighters. I guess there's no reason you can't be a long streak of piss who moves around the ring like a whippet, and still have great boxing technique, although the need to develop your technique is no doubt way more pressing if you're a slow footed short-ass

[ValMar]

Tyson Fury is very hard to hit but a large part of that is (2015 version) he has exceptional mobility, and when you ally that to a 6' 7" frame and corresponding reach, it's not surprising. I don't actually consider this to be skill in it's purest form, I think the test of real boxing skill is when you don't enjoy height and reach advantage, and you can be very difficult to hit even when you are static and within range of your opponent.

The finsst exponent I've seen at heavyweight in recent years is Alexandr Povetkin, but he is in the twighlight of his career now. His place as the most skilled heavyweight will soon be taken by Oleksandr Usyk. What is it with these Sashas?

These are the two standouts as far as I'm concerned, but I am conscious that my way of looking at it means I'm in danger of discounting speed merchants and taller fighters. I guess there's no reason you can't be a long streak of piss who moves around the ring like a whippet, and still have great boxing technique, although the need to develop your technique is no doubt way more pressing if you're a slow footed short-ass
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Unfortunately, my English is not on the high level, so, I can not tell you the joke about the size and the technique.

[candyslim]

It's getting there Valmar. I always think it takes a brave man to come on a forum like this and argue his case in a language that is not his mother-tongue.Most would run for the hills. Even if he's taken English lessons he is going to encounter slang and different ways of expressing oneself in English from a great variety of locations.

The good part is that if you stay with it like you have, you get education in everyday real English that you could never get in a classroom. Your skills have improved dramatically. I've noticed a big difference in the time I've been posting here. I'm proud of you and actually quite envious too. (I may well have fun and improve my knowledge of boxing but I'm not going to become comfortable with another language while I'm doing it)

[candyslim]

p.s. I look forward to hearing the joke (one day - no pressure)

[ValMar]

It's getting there Valmar. I always think it takes a brave man to come on a forum like this and argue his case in a language that is not his mother-tongue.Most would run for the hills. Even if he's taken English lessons he is going to encounter slang and different ways of expressing oneself in English from a great variety of locations.

The good part is that if you stay with it like you have, you get education in everyday real English that you could never get in a classroom. Your skills have improved dramatically. I've noticed a big difference in the time I've been posting here. I'm proud of you and actually quite envious too. (I may well have fun and improve my knowledge of boxing but I'm not going to become comfortable with another language while I'm doing it)

Candyslim, I am 53, I had been learning English when a was a child, so long ago. As a pupil, I was a little bit disobedient, and not so dilligent. I don't need to use English in my everyday life (except some IT issues), and I doubt that anyone should be envious because of my knowledge/"knowledge".....Yes, sometimes, I can not understand some posters, and sometimes, I can not express myself properly. Anyway, thank for your support..............Considering a joke, it is impossible to translate....................

[Boxing Prospect]

Ruiz deserves a mention

[candyslim]

It's getting there Valmar. I always think it takes a brave man to come on a forum like this and argue his case in a language that is not his mother-tongue.Most would run for the hills. Even if he's taken English lessons he is going to encounter slang and different ways of expressing oneself in English from a great variety of locations.

The good part is that if you stay with it like you have, you get education in everyday real English that you could never get in a classroom. Your skills have improved dramatically. I've noticed a big difference in the time I've been posting here. I'm proud of you and actually quite envious too. (I may well have fun and improve my knowledge of boxing but I'm not going to become comfortable with another language while I'm doing it)

Candyslim, I am 53, I had been learning English when a was a child, so long ago. As a pupil, I was a little bit disobedient, and not so dilligent. I don't need to use English in my everyday life (except some IT issues), and I doubt that anyone should be envious because of my knowledge/"knowledge".....Yes, sometimes, I can not understand some posters, and sometimes, I can not express myself properly. Anyway, thank for your support..............Considering a joke, it is impossible to translate....................

Feel free to pm me and I'll always try to help if there's something you don't understand ... always assuming that I do of course

[candyslim]

Ruiz deserves a mention

People say that but I've not really seen much of him in the ring. Come to think of it has anybody?

[ValMar]

It's getting there Valmar. I always think it takes a brave man to come on a forum like this and argue his case in a language that is not his mother-tongue.Most would run for the hills. Even if he's taken English lessons he is going to encounter slang and different ways of expressing oneself in English from a great variety of locations.

The good part is that if you stay with it like you have, you get education in everyday real English that you could never get in a classroom. Your skills have improved dramatically. I've noticed a big difference in the time I've been posting here. I'm proud of you and actually quite envious too. (I may well have fun and improve my knowledge of boxing but I'm not going to become comfortable with another language while I'm doing it)

Candyslim, I am 53, I had been learning English when a was a child, so long ago. As a pupil, I was a little bit disobedient, and not so dilligent. I don't need to use English in my everyday life (except some IT issues), and I doubt that anyone should be envious because of my knowledge/"knowledge".....Yes, sometimes, I can not understand some posters, and sometimes, I can not express myself properly. Anyway, thank for your support..............Considering a joke, it is impossible to translate....................

Feel free to pm me and I'll always try to help if there's something you don't understand ... always assuming that I do of course

[KiwiRider]

Ruiz deserves a mention

People say that but I've not really seen much of him in the ring. Come to think of it has anybody?

He took a year off after the Parker fight and has done nothing of note since. Seems a waste given his best attributes are speed and punch output- those things are tied in with age and activity.

[candyslim]

Yes he seriously needs to pull his finger out.