Wȁɍɍȅn confident he can make Fury vs. Wilder happen before the end of the year"

[jamamb]

sure mate, ive been talking about fwank but if you care that much about hearns standing on aj vs wilder that you cant refuse to make it about that then have at it

maybe join your uninformed bud like a boss with his signature 'hearn made ortiz vs wilder as a roadblock to an aj fight'

[Redback Rasta]

:lol:

[jamamb]

[Redback Rasta]

:clap:

[jamamb]

that's the spirit mate, im glad your joining in

[Thomastearns]

Unless it's a pure publicity stunt, it can only be about the money.

Fury wants to make up for not cashing in after the Klitschko fight and Wilder wants more than the $15 million offered by Hearn.

Boxing politics is becoming a spectator sport in itself, at least for some. All because AJ is holding most of the cards.

[ewenhay]

Unless it's a pure publicity stunt, it can only be about the money.

Fury wants to make up for not cashing in after the Klitschko fight and Wilder wants more than the $15 million offered by Hearn.

Boxing politics is becoming a spectator sport in itself, at least for some. All because AJ is holding most of the cards.

This fight hugely impacts on the top of the division though and almost forces Hearn to make the fight with the winner (provided Joshua beats Povetkin). Otherwise they won't come out of it looking very good.

[ValMar]

Unless it's a pure publicity stunt, it can only be about the money.

Fury wants to make up for not cashing in after the Klitschko fight and Wilder wants more than the $15 million offered by Hearn.

Boxing politics is becoming a spectator sport in itself, at least for some. All because AJ is holding most of the cards.

This fight hugely impacts on the top of the division though and almost forces Hearn to make the fight with the winner (provided Joshua beats Povetkin). Otherwise they won't come out of it looking very good.

I agree.

[Enlightened-One]

Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn has just confirmed to iFL TV, which you can see for yourself on YouTube, that the Fury-Wilder bout is nearly done, as long as Tyson wins his next fight.

The talks have been ongoing for two consecutive weeks and the negotiations have apparently been very easy.

It's likely that the bout will take place in Las Vegas sometime in December.

The fight might be announced fairly soon.

[jamamb]

sorry i havent been following it all, have wilders said confirmed this yet

[Enlightened-One]

sorry i havent been following it all, have wilders said confirmed this yet

Wilder has confirmed that talks have taken place and both sides are very close to signing a deal.., and his trainer has said so also.

Wilder will also be ringside to attend Tyson Fury's next bout in two weeks time, so I'm guessing that the official announcement will be made then.

No contract is signed yet, but the way Fury's team are talking, it's merely a formality, pending Tyson winning his next bout.

There's a non-disclosure agreement in place, so purse splits etc. won't be disclosed to the public.

[jvincent]

There's a non-disclosure agreement in place, so purse splits etc. won't be disclosed to the public.

I wonder why

[SenorPipino]

It won't happen.

It's just bloviating.

[joshj909]

This, along with the $15m "crackhead" money Wilder turned down for AJ, this confuses me even more. Surely Wilder can't expect to make money this easy anywhere else. The Fury fight will likely generate under $30m total, so what is he thinking? They're either in on it with Warren to piss off Hearn, he sees Fury as an easy target before he's fit, or he has the worst advisers in boxing.

On a side-note, apparently a rematch clause will be included, no details as to under what circumstances a rematch would take place though

[Enlightened-One]

This, along with the $15m "crackhead" money Wilder turned down for AJ, this confuses me even more. Surely Wilder can't expect to make money this easy anywhere else. The Fury fight will likely generate under $30m total, so what is he thinking? They're either in on it with Warren to piss off Hearn, he sees Fury as an easy target before he's fit, or he has the worst advisers in boxing.

On a side-note, apparently a rematch clause will be included, no details as to under what circumstances a rematch would take place though

It could simply be a political issue whereby Stephen Espinoza and Al Haymon are reluctant to allow a Showtime fighter, like Deontay Wilder, compete on their biggest rival network (DAZN).

These sort of TV network barriers don't exist for a potential bout between Fury & Wilder.

We've previously seen TV network rivalry issues either prevent or cause serious delays to other super-fights, such as Mayweather-Pacquiao and Stevenson-Kovalev, so I'd be surprised if the same sort of issue wasn't somehow affecting a potential bout between Wilder and Joshua.

[Sequitorian]

Wȁɍɍȅn? ...

... what's with all the extraneous punctuation-marks? ...

... and how did you get the "line-thru" (ɍɍ) to appear? ...

[keirw]

This, along with the $15m "crackhead" money Wilder turned down for AJ, this confuses me even more. Surely Wilder can't expect to make money this easy anywhere else. The Fury fight will likely generate under $30m total, so what is he thinking? They're either in on it with Warren to piss off Hearn, he sees Fury as an easy target before he's fit, or he has the worst advisers in boxing.

On a side-note, apparently a rematch clause will be included, no details as to under what circumstances a rematch would take place though

It could simply be a political issue whereby Stephen Espinoza and Al Haymon are reluctant to allow a Showtime fighter, like Deontay Wilder, compete on their biggest rival network (DAZN).

These sort of TV network barriers don't exist for a potential bout between Fury & Wilder.

We've previously seen TV network rivalry issues either prevent or cause serious delays to other super-fights, such as Mayweather-Pacquiao and Stevenson-Kovalev, so I'd be surprised if the same sort of issue wasn't affecting a potential bout between Wilder and Joshua.

Indeed, I also imagine that the creation of a BT PPV channel in the UK was one of the reasons Hearn didn't want AJ to blindly accept the $50 million.

Imagine of BT won the rights to show Joshua vs Wilder in the UK. That would be the stuff of nightmares for Hearn, as his exclusive relationship with sky is the backbone of everything he has done in the sport.

[Enlightened-One]

This, along with the $15m "crackhead" money Wilder turned down for AJ, this confuses me even more. Surely Wilder can't expect to make money this easy anywhere else. The Fury fight will likely generate under $30m total, so what is he thinking? They're either in on it with Warren to piss off Hearn, he sees Fury as an easy target before he's fit, or he has the worst advisers in boxing.

On a side-note, apparently a rematch clause will be included, no details as to under what circumstances a rematch would take place though

It could simply be a political issue whereby Stephen Espinoza and Al Haymon are reluctant to allow a Showtime fighter, like Deontay Wilder, compete on their biggest rival network (DAZN).

These sort of TV network barriers don't exist for a potential bout between Fury & Wilder.

We've previously seen TV network rivalry issues either prevent or cause serious delays to other super-fights, such as Mayweather-Pacquiao and Stevenson-Kovalev, so I'd be surprised if the same sort of issue wasn't affecting a potential bout between Wilder and Joshua.

Indeed, I also imagine that the creation of a BT PPV channel in the UK was one of the reasons Hearn didn't want AJ to blindly accept the $50 million.

Imagine of BT won the rights to show Joshua vs Wilder in the UK. That would be the stuff of nightmares for Hearn, as his exclusive relationship with sky is the backbone of everything he has done in the sport.

Yeah, you’re absolutely right.

If AJ had blindly accepted Wilder’s offer, without seeing the contract, the American’s (i.e. Al Haymon, Stephen Espinoza, Lou DiBella and Shelly Finkel) may have demanded that they sell the international TV rights for the bout to the highest bidder, which potentially could have been BT Sport.

This wouldn’t have been a good move for Eddie Hearn’s newly-established partnership with DAZN nor his long-term relationship with Sky.

[Enlightened-One]

"Wilder: Fury Fight Nearly Done; 'Way Bigger' Than Joshua Fight"

Deontay Wilder sounds relieved.

Fighting Tyson Fury won’t earn Wilder quite as much money as he would’ve made for facing Joshua, but it’ll provide Wilder with the opportunity to defeat another big, unbeaten British star, who’s also boxing’s lineal heavyweight champion.

Wilder told BS.com on Thursday night that a deal is nearly finalized for him to fight Fury either in “November or December.” Their Showtime Pay-Per-View bout is expected to take place either on November 10 or November 17 at an undetermined venue in Las Vegas.

“Whatever date that suits us best, that’s the date we’ll go with,” Wilder said. “But people should know that this fight is happening. It will happen. We just can’t wait. We can’t wait to announce it and get it on.”

Wilder has been pleasantly surprised with how quickly his adviser, Al Haymon, his co-manager, Shelly Finkel, and allegedly, Fury’s promoter, have moved toward completing contracts for what will be the biggest fight of the Alabama-based knockout artist’s 10-year pro career.

“It could be wrapped up next week,” Wilder said. “Or it could be wrapped up [Friday]. We’re that close. This has been the easiest negotiation I’ve ever been in, dealing with a fight of this magnitude. That just lets you know this fight will happen. I don’t see nothing that will stop this fight from happening, nothing at all.”

According to Wilder, that’s a testament to Fury’s fearlessness. The 6-feet-9 former champion isn’t as big a star in the United Kingdom as Joshua, but he, too, could’ve demanded that the 6-feet-7 Wilder travel to Fury’s native England to make more money than Wilder could earn for fighting anyone other than Joshua.

“I respect for him and I salute him for that, for trying to save face for his country, to try to save them from the embarrassment they feel over there,” Wilder said. “Because we’re laughing at them hard, especially when Joshua asked for $50 million and then talked about he was just playing. But Fury, he’s a true champion. This is what champions are all about.”

“This is a bigger fight than the Joshua fight,” Wilder said. “This is a way bigger fight. Just for Tyson to take this opportunity, and be able to do [a deal] in a short amount of time, it tells you about his character. He’s a true warrior. He’s a true gypsy king and I can’t wait to share a ring with him.”

While Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) clearly would make more money for fighting Joshua, he considers the Fury fight bigger because Fury (25-0, 18 KOs) is the lineal heavyweight champion and more well-known among American boxing fans than Joshua.

“Fury’s undefeated and he beat the man that beat the man,” Wilder said. “We all know this. So, you know, a lot more people over here in America know Tyson Fury than they know Anthony Joshua. When people hear about this fight and when I walk the streets, they go, ‘That’s that guy that stepped in the ring with you when you fought [Artur Szpilka in January 2016].’ They remember his face. They remember him.

“And now we’ve just caused a big uproar, now that me and him is finally fighting. With our styles, it’s gonna be crazy in there. We’re two awkward guys. We’re big, we’re undefeated, we’re true champions and most of all, we can talk. We speak our peace. It’s easy to see this fight is way bigger than the Joshua fight.”

The 32-year-old Wilder intends to attend Fury’s next fight, set for August 18 in Belfast, Northern Ireland. If Fury defeats Italy’s Francesco Pianeta (35-4-1, 21 KOs) in the second fight of his comeback from treatment for alcoholism, drug addiction and depression, the Wilder-Fury promotion will begin inside the ring that night at Windsor Park.

Wilder isn’t concerned that any of the 29-year-old Fury’s personal problems will lead to a postponement once their contracts are finalized for a November bout. He has spoken privately several times to Fury and is convinced their fight will come off.

Thoughts?

[joshj909]

“I respect for him and I salute him for that, for trying to save face for his country, to try to save them from the embarrassment they feel over there,” Wilder said. “Because we’re laughing at them hard,

So, you know, a lot more people over here in America know Tyson Fury than they know Anthony Joshua. When people hear about this fight and when I walk the streets, they go, ‘That’s that guy that stepped in the ring with you when you fought [Artur Szpilka in January 2016].’ They remember his face. They remember him.

He's one of those strange people who i am convinced believes their own delusions.

[caldo2025]

Ridiculous to think this would happen this year.

Anyway, Wilder knocks any version of fury into next week.

Exactly on both points. But we'll see Fury yapping left and right about it knowing that the fight will probably NEVER happen.

[jvincent]

He's one of those strange people who i am convinced believes their own delusions.

I think you might be right. Don't really have anything against Deontay at all but I find his behaviour pretty odd. I really cant see this fight happening. The fact that an NDA is in action seems to suggest if it is in fact going ahead its going to be for considerably less money than either Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder would make facing AJ. I feel that says everything really. Both Deontay and Tyson see each other as easier than facing AJ. Id like to see the fight though so no complaints from me if a miracle happens and it does come off.

[Thomastearns]

When Fury says it's 99% done, he means it's 99% done today but tomorrow it could be off, or on or maybe after some consideration perhaps really off.

As for Deontay Wilder, his future fights going on past form, can be even less certain. But's that's not his fault, or is it? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, or maybe it is.

Seriously though, if it is on, it will be hilarious entertainment. The buildup, the fight, the after fight - all of it.

[ewenhay]

This, along with the $15m "crackhead" money Wilder turned down for AJ, this confuses me even more. Surely Wilder can't expect to make money this easy anywhere else. The Fury fight will likely generate under $30m total, so what is he thinking? They're either in on it with Warren to piss off Hearn, he sees Fury as an easy target before he's fit, or he has the worst advisers in boxing.

On a side-note, apparently a rematch clause will be included, no details as to under what circumstances a rematch would take place though

I don't believe a word that comes out of Hearn's mouth. Some on here hang on every word like it's gospel

[Enlightened-One]

"Wilder's Manager: I Believe Tyson Fury Deal Will Get Done"

Shelly Finkel, co-manager of WBC heavyweight world champion Deontay Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs), feels confident that a bout with Tyson Fury (26-0, 19 KOs) will get finalized for the fall.

The two sides are in serious negotiations for a showdown - provided Fury wins on August 18th in Belfast, when he faces Francesco Pianeta.

"I believe it will be done. I believe it will get done. I think we're close. I would hope next week it comes together. It's a big fight, but it's not done until all the paperwork is done. So do I think it will get done? Yes. But it's not done. But I am also not aware of any issues. The rematch clause will get worked out," Finkel told ESPN.

As BS.com previously reported, the fight is targeted for Las Vegas, with Showtime PPV dates of November 10 and November 17 being kicked around.

Finkel has a very good relationship with Fury's promoter, Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn, and both sides are working very hard to get a deal done.

"Deontay is very excited about it," Finkel said. "He remembers Fury jumping in the ring (after the Szpilka fight). There's been a bit of a history there. They've traded barbs. In this sport, in the heavyweight division, after Deontay and Joshua, this is the biggest fight. I think it will get done. The points that matter are done, but it's not done until it's signed."

Should the fight come off, it would certainly become by far the biggest heavyweight fight of the year - and possibly the biggest event of the year.