My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

Post by actjac »

Fury needs the money so he's willing to fight Wilder now. . . Frank W. wants to cash in before Tyson goes off the deep end again.

It will be an entertaining promotion and the hype will sell this match but Fury will probably postpone at least once.

When (if) the fight takes place Fury will come out strong and win a couple of early rounds before starting to labor and then starts leaning on Deontay. Wilder will hurt Fury as Tyson tires midway and knocks him down a couple of times before Tyson's corner stops in between rounds (7-8). . . Fury gets a nice check, Wilder gets the wins, Warren gets a payday and rid of the problem. Wilder's team can then restart the drumbeat for a mid-2019 Anthony Joshua fight and with the momentum for another U.S. event (either Las Vegas or MSG).. . . .The fans are entertained,
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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actjac wrote: 03 Aug 2018, 19:53 Fury needs the money so he's willing to fight Wilder now. . . Frank W. wants to cash in before Tyson goes off the deep end again.

It will be an entertaining promotion and the hype will sell this match but Fury will probably postpone at least once.

When (if) the fight takes place Fury will come out strong and win a couple of early rounds before starting to labor and then starts leaning on Deontay. Wilder will hurt Fury as Tyson tires midway and knocks him down a couple of times before Tyson's corner stops in between rounds (7-8). . . Fury gets a nice check, Wilder gets the wins, Warren gets a payday and rid of the problem. Wilder's team can then restart the drumbeat for a mid-2019 Anthony Joshua fight and with the momentum for another U.S. event (either Las Vegas or MSG).. . . .The fans are entertained,
Fury doesn't need the money.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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if it happens wilder will ko him, still im doubtful though, furys comeback has been really slow cooking but then now suddenly hes gonna fight wilder in 3 months?

and the press i read fury and wilder talk more about aj then each other. like the whole talk is just to make aj look bad. i have doubts that its more then pr for that purpose but hey, there both positive about it, so maybe it does happen
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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If he's fit, Fury will box his ears off, it could be too early but he'll be super motivated for this fight, can't see him cutting any corners.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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jamamb wrote: 03 Aug 2018, 20:16 if it happens wilder will ko him, still im doubtful though, furys comeback has been really slow cooking but then now suddenly hes gonna fight wilder in 3 months?

and the press i read fury and wilder talk more about aj then each other. like the whole talk is just to make aj look bad. i have doubts that its more then pr for that purpose but hey, there both positive about it, so maybe it does happen
Klitschko couldn't KO him. Even an out-of-shape version of Fury is better than anything on Wilder's resume.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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no but wilder will
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Nightmare Roy wrote: 03 Aug 2018, 21:39 If he's fit, Fury will box his ears off ...
They should box each-other's ears off ... they wouldn't have to listen to their respective nonsensical rantings ... (and that would be a win for the both of them) ... :lol: ...
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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The Fury that beat Klitschko would in my opinion most likely beat Wilder, but it wouldn't be without risk. If a cruiserweight can put Tyson on the canvas, I'm damn sure Wilder could put him there, maybe keep him there. Fury would need all his powers of concentration and exceptional reflexes, as well as his proven stamina.

What about if the match was now? Well I wouldn't write off Tyson's chances altogether, he has shed loads of weight and is making better progress than anyone could have predicted, but realistically at this point he has to be a massive underdog.

My worry is he's going to fight Wilder when he is nowhere near ready and lose badly like Jeffries against Johnson or Louis against Marciano. The difference is it doesn't need to be that way for you. Fight a couple of contenders, prove that you've still got it, then go and show this prick that he's got a huge right hand, an even more huge ego, and a still more huge beating coming to him.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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I think it might be a close fight. Fury doesn't get hit flush often and Wilder has been outboxed by such amazing technical fighters like Gerald Wahington.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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I think Marv that you are fondly remembering Tyson v Hammer, Chisora or Klitschko.

I'd wager your comment wasn't inspired by watching Tyson v Seferi. Wilder can be outboxed but Fury will need all his reflexes, all his timing, all his concentration, if he's not to end up staring at the ring lights.

You've shown you can walk again Tyson. Let's try a gentle jog next before we try sprinting shall we?
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Tyson began his training camp shortly after xmas last year. Against Sefari he was 6 months in. Against Wilder he would be around 1 year in camp. My sources are telling me he is starting to look good, like his old self again in camp. He will never have a sculpted body but he sure has some world class skills when he works at it.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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He's done wonders but I'd feel a lot better about a Wilder fight if his two prior opponents were say Erkan Teper, or Otto Wallin and Johann Duhaupas or Eric Molina even Joey Dawejko or Travis Kaufman for example rather than the Albanian number two cruiserweight, and the man recently KTFOed by a well past it Kevin Johnson.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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If Tyson will show up in his next fight with less fat and if he wins Pianeta in the impressive way, many will probably say, it will be time for Wilder fight. And that will be fair. Maybe Fury is free from rust, gotta see his upcoming fight.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Not a bad pre-analysis. Though I feel like if Wilder can’t find him early it goes the distance
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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How can anyone who saw them both box give wilder more than a theoretical puncher's chance (of course it's there) In my opinion fury will box & dance circles around him, beating him up badly, make wilder look helpless in the process. Late stoppage (if fury puts the foot down) or wide UD, so paid... ok, let's say "biased" judges won't make any difference. 🥊
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Anyone who has seen Wilder fight and seen Wladimir Klitschko fight, and thinks that Deontay Wilder is as likely to freeze up in the ring and not throw as Wladimir Klitschko is, to be blunt, utterly ignorant about boxing.

Wilder is going to swing for the fences and he's going to clip the Big Pikey. It will not take a clean shot to drop him with that power (not that it necessarily has in the past with much lighter hitting foes). He'll become a cautionary tale, a la Buster Douglas after the Holyfield fight when he wound up running into Lou Savarese.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Hit and run, this time works out or not, does he (Fury) still have the condition?? :box:
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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zorndeslammes wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 11:40 Anyone who has seen Wilder fight and seen Wladimir Klitschko fight, and thinks that Deontay Wilder is as likely to freeze up in the ring and not throw as Wladimir Klitschko is, to be blunt, utterly ignorant about boxing.

Wilder is going to swing for the fences and he's going to clip the Big Pikey. It will not take a clean shot to drop him with that power (not that it necessarily has in the past with much lighter hitting foes). He'll become a cautionary tale, a la Buster Douglas after the Holyfield fight when he wound up running into Lou Savarese.
i agree, wilder would splatter him, it might take some rounds but it would happen eventually. that 6 foot 9 would make for a great timber
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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adislav123 wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 11:31 How can anyone who saw them both box give wilder more than a theoretical puncher's chance (of course it's there) In my opinion fury will box & dance circles around him, beating him up badly, make wilder look helpless in the process. Late stoppage (if fury puts the foot down) or wide UD, so paid... ok, let's say "biased" judges won't make any difference. 🥊
I think you need to adjust your wristwatch. It appears to be running three years slow.
zorndeslammes wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 11:40 Anyone who has seen Wilder fight and seen Wladimir Klitschko fight, and thinks that Deontay Wilder is as likely to freeze up in the ring and not throw as Wladimir Klitschko is, to be blunt, utterly ignorant about boxing.

Wilder is going to swing for the fences and he's going to clip the Big Pikey. It will not take a clean shot to drop him with that power (not that it necessarily has in the past with much lighter hitting foes). He'll become a cautionary tale, a la Buster Douglas after the Holyfield fight when he wound up running into Lou Savarese.
I wish it were otherwise but I think this is bang on.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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The only thing I would take issue with is the description of Wlad as being 'frozen' whereas I think it's more the case of him being unable to set himself to throw against a target that just wouldn't keep still FFS!

Sadly Tyson is unlikely to show that level of movement and stamina this year.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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RandomUsername wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 13:38 If this happens then tons of respect to Wilder, just hope that he wont look to badly in there.
He'll look great.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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hell look great eventually with a huge ko, but may look as he usually does on the way there. i dont think furys any great shakes but even now id think hed be better then the likes of washington, szpilka, etc....guys who won rounds and/or lasted later
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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zorndeslammes wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 11:40 Anyone who has seen Wilder fight and seen Wladimir Klitschko fight, and thinks that Deontay Wilder is as likely to freeze up in the ring and not throw as Wladimir Klitschko is, to be blunt, utterly ignorant about boxing.

Wilder is going to swing for the fences and he's going to clip the Big Pikey. It will not take a clean shot to drop him with that power (not that it necessarily has in the past with much lighter hitting foes). He'll become a cautionary tale, a la Buster Douglas after the Holyfield fight when he wound up running into Lou Savarese.
:TU: Good analysis
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Tyson Fury comprehensively outboxes Deontay Wilder to the point the American is going to have to put it all on the line, by attacking the Brit with all guns blazing.

If the Gypsy King can evade the American desperate onslaughts, then he'll score a one-sided decision victory.
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Re: My prediction for Fury vs Wilder

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Yeah and if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

Tyson managed to outperform the second best cruiserweight in Albania so why on earth would be not be able to do the same to the WBC champ and hardest hitting heavyweight in the world?

By then he'll have further proved his readiness by scoring a victory over the formidable and peak form Francesco Piano-shifter.

F#ck me you think Wilder deserves credit for this??? Taking on Fury when he's at his most vulnerable so as to add a big name to his record with minimal risk and crow about how he beat the linneal champion. No doubt Joshua was too scared to face Tyson. Maybe he just wants to beat Tyson Fury and not just the man's shadow.

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