Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV

[CMDY]

For what it’s worth I’d like to see Kovalev Stevenson as a career finale.

[Stuarty]

Kov should retire now. I've not seen the fight yet. Hopefully catch it later on YouTube.

My mate text me yesterday asking about betting on some fights. I told him to bet Cordina by KO which was fucked and Alvarez KO as an outside bet. He text me this morning well chuffed Gutted I didn't take the bet on myself

[Ruthless-RKO]

For what it’s worth I’d like to see Kovalev Stevenson as a career finale.

It would be a shame if this never happened. Even now. Just the fact that they can share a ring.. it’s like when Lewis vs. Tyson. We all knew Tyson was finished. But it was good to see them both in the ring.

[DrDuke]

For what it’s worth I’d like to see Kovalev Stevenson as a career finale.

It would be a shame if this never happened. Even now. Just the fact that they can share a ring.. it’s like when Lewis vs. Tyson. We all knew Tyson was finished. But it was good to see them both in the ring.

Sounds correct. That's a one of few options for Sergey, if not to retire. And for Adonis.

[jamamb]

lol at all the stuff that everyone was blinded to his flaws and he was 2nd rate, etc....people just love to cry hype job say that maybe, some ppl that really only come here to put down fighters when they lose. im sure tuan jim was as giddy as a school girl when he saw this, though he didnt create a seperate hype job thread like he dis for ggg vs brook, ggg vs jacobs, and ggg vs canelo

in reality he was called limited for years. said to be just a banger and at best another pavlik. many picked clev over him and the odds were super close, an espn media poll had hopkins favoured 13-12 over him, and ward was the favourite both fights, with so many predictions that kov would be totally schooled and hardly win a round. yet kov was ultra competitive with ward and it seems for most deserved the first fight, over a special fighter, if hed gotten that decision it would be an excellent win truth is in many cases he was underestimated

lets get it straight, kov was regarded as a scary mean fighter who could really hurt you (he did kill a guy), but LOL at some of this revised narrative like he was really some 2nd rate guy who was way overhyped and never really too good. in reality he never got the ggg invincble hype and was always seen as flawed (ppl even went on about ggg knocking him out). yet he was a legit top 2 lhw, unified champ, and he very arguably beat a p4p top 3 fighter

this is just part of the fan culture of loving to revise things and sh!t on fighters when there down. the same fans who moan about fighters not taking more risks

[jamamb]

Kovalev has always looked a bit too fragile to properly earn the ‘monster’ tag that some people were giving him a few years ago, but must admit I wasn’t expecting that at all. Thought he’d have too much for Alvarez. The way Kov unfolds when he’s put under pressure is very worrying.

Big punchers always get Innernetz fans moist—c.f. Lucas Mathysse—& then 'cos they're exciting people blind themselves to their faults. This includes myself.

Credit to Alvarez, he looked like he knew exactly what he was doing in there. I thought his jab was disrupting Kovalev even in the rounds he lost, & that right hand had truly bad intentions behind it & landed as flush as flush can be (if not the type of shot that one would think would dispose of a bloke who's never been truly KO'd before).

lol, ya, not like we can go back and find years of ppl calling kov a limited banger is it. he was seen so much as an invincble machine that clev fight was almost 50-50 split on predictions and odds, major media polls favoured hopkins to beat him, and ward was favourite both fights and for so many expected hardly to lose a round

ya, and you wont find a single 'hes just another limited pavlik' comparison either, or assesrtions that ggg would ko him,as you say everyone was totally blinded to his flaws and thought he was invincble. in reality this top 2 lhw, unified champ who arguably beat a p4p elite fighter was just nothing at all

this sh!t on kovalev wankfest though but we also want fighters to take tougher fights! so we can sh!t on them more

[Datsue]

Kovalev has always looked a bit too fragile to properly earn the ‘monster’ tag that some people were giving him a few years ago, but must admit I wasn’t expecting that at all. Thought he’d have too much for Alvarez. The way Kov unfolds when he’s put under pressure is very worrying.

Big punchers always get Innernetz fans moist—c.f. Lucas Mathysse—& then 'cos they're exciting people blind themselves to their faults. This includes myself.

Credit to Alvarez, he looked like he knew exactly what he was doing in there. I thought his jab was disrupting Kovalev even in the rounds he lost, & that right hand had truly bad intentions behind it & landed as flush as flush can be (if not the type of shot that one would think would dispose of a bloke who's never been truly KO'd before).

lol, ya, not like we can go back and find years of ppl calling kov a limited banger is it. he was seen so much as an invincble machine that clev fight was almost 50-50 split on predictions and odds, major media polls favoured hopkins to beat him, and ward was favourite both fights and for so many expected hardly to lose a round

ya, and you wont find a single 'hes just another limited pavlik' comparison either, or assesrtions that ggg would ko him,as you say everyone was totally blinded to his flaws and thought he was invincble. in reality this top 2 lhw, unified champ who arguably beat a p4p elite fighter was just nothing at all

this sh!t on kovalev wankfest though but we also want fighters to take tougher fights! so we can sh!t on them more

So... I'm agreeing with a post that literally says " expected him to have too much for Alvarez" & you're going off on one about...?

FWIW, there's a shitload of difference between "unbeatable monster" & "just another Pavlik" but don't let that get in the way of your straw-man argument there, dude.

Thing is you're doing exactly what you're complaining about. Not everyone is Tuan Jim & conversely not everyone is one of those denizens of the current scene (& again FWIW that's the kind of poster Boxerbeetle & I are talking about).

Neither me nor him have called Kov a fraud or downplayed his achievements.

[jamamb]

i just think ppl are totally off and revising things

acting like kov got rated far higher then he did, and wrongly grouping him with the ggg hype. ppl have said for years hes flawed, and thats why him vs clev was close to even money, media poll had hopkins favoured, and ward was favoured for both fights and a 'schooling' was heavily predicted. it was also very common to see ppl suggesting that ggg could move up and stop him. i think in several cases he actually surpassed expectations

he was viewed as a mean, dangerous hurtful puncher and i think that was fair enough.even in losing he hurt ward and alvarez and was either ahead or about level. and he had a good career that saw him unify titles, become a clear top 2 lhw, and very arguably beat an elite atg in ward

theres just such an eagerness these days to wank over a guys downfall. but then ppl moan about fighters taking risk free fights

[Tuan_Jim]

Always creeps me out when internet kooks have a better recall of what I've written than I myself have. I log on, peck out some glib remark or thread, log off and pretty much instantly forget it--yet other people years later are still making reference to some obscure thing I said? Why don't you put on your Hawaii shirt and sit in front of me at the cinema and laugh all over the dialogue?

I point out that Kovalev has for years inspired masses of impassioned, aggressive support online, and been hyped to the hills by subscription TV, all of which is factual, empirical, and known by any boxing fan with eyeballs and who is alive. That point is not disproved by saying that you can find people who said that he was another Kelly Pavlik, or that there was a media poll that picked Hopkins to beat him. That argument is a retard masquerading as a sophist.

Ha-ha!! You think Kovalev was overyhyped!! Ha-ha!! I saw someone write a thread saying he wasn't invincible!! Yeah, no sh"t, dummy. It was probably me who wrote it.

[jamamb]

nah, it wasnt just random bits here and there, it was all over. forums, mainstream boxing media, betting odds. years and years of stuff that kov was a dangerous but limited banger . several fights where a good deal of people thought hed lose...including clev and hopkins. he was the underdog both times vs ward and there were as many predictions of him being totally schooled as there were anything else. for years, even before he lost, ppl also said hed get stopped by ggg

in the end, he had a good career. was top 2 in the world, unified titles, fought very closely with an atg fighter in ward. hes come tumbling down now, but still a good even if not amazing run. exciting fights

those are the actual facts, but i know you love to twist things to make it extra sweet for you when the fighter loses. thats your biggest interest in boxing these days isnt it? maybe youll even start a 5th ggg hype job thread after the canelo fight, or explain why usyk couldnt hold orlin norris protector

[Tuan_Jim]

You're wrong and you know it. If Sergey Kovalev was criticised proportionally to his hype he would be the most maligned boxer in history. Evidently, he isn't.

You have an unhealthy fixation with me, and your constant misrepresentation of what I say has grown tedious. Blocked. Goodbye.

[jamamb]

how can people even begin to act like kovalev , a measly top 2 lhw and unified champ, was gargantuanly hyped and hugely rated as some amazing fighter when odds and predictions were close for him vs clev and hopkins, and he was underdog both times vs ward and widely predicted to get schooled. excitement over kos isnt the same as rating someone as a great, its been said repeatedly for years that kovs limited. the pavlik comparisons (in context of the hopkins schooling over pav) were all over

like, can you imagine if ggg vs macklin was seen as a close fight where a major media poll picked macklin 13-12. or if a good deal of ppl thought a guy from two divisions down would come up and beat ggg. ppl are now getting kovalev mixed up with ggg, probavly lazily because there both ex soviet ko punchers

tuan, seems like you just cant stand the smallest bit of excitement about a fighter. why do you even follow boxing if your so hugely negative about it and admit to being done with the sport? cheer up sweetcakes

kov was a good fighter with a good world class career, was an exciting fighter that got ppl talking, but he certainly was considered to have flaws and its total nonsense to act like there wasnt a long history of ppl saying hes limited and would be outboxed

though i know its great to revise things so we can sh!t on fighters harder when they fall