just curious what ppl think, i see a lot of opinions saying usyk, but then another poster in a different section said that hayes cruiser career should be rated a few tiers higher then usyks
i tried to understand that view but couldnt find myself agreeing with it
just curious, whose career do you rate higher. not necessarily who you suspect was better.
whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Usyk for me
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Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
and some comparisons
titles
usyk: undisputed (all 4 major belts) + lineal
haye: unified (WBC, WBA, WBO) + lineal (steve cunningham had the ibf)
title fights
usyk: 6-0 (2)
haye: 2-0 (2)
notable opponents beaten
usyk: murat gassiev (wba+ibf champ), mairis briedis (wbc champ), kyrstoff glowacki (wbo champ), marco huck, thabiso mchuni
haye: jean mormeck (wba+wbc), enzo maccrinello (wbo), giacobbe fragomeni, alex gurov, vincenzo rossito (?)
notable losses
usyk: none
haye: tko loss to carl thompson
titles
usyk: undisputed (all 4 major belts) + lineal
haye: unified (WBC, WBA, WBO) + lineal (steve cunningham had the ibf)
title fights
usyk: 6-0 (2)
haye: 2-0 (2)
notable opponents beaten
usyk: murat gassiev (wba+ibf champ), mairis briedis (wbc champ), kyrstoff glowacki (wbo champ), marco huck, thabiso mchuni
haye: jean mormeck (wba+wbc), enzo maccrinello (wbo), giacobbe fragomeni, alex gurov, vincenzo rossito (?)
notable losses
usyk: none
haye: tko loss to carl thompson
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Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Voted Usyk, but I still feel that Haye was stronger for the time being. Usyk has the better record; Haye the better moments.
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Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Haye was better but Usyk has achieved more as he has picked up all 4 titles.
Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Of course, Usyk. He has a better opposotion, more belts, he was more dominant in his fights.
Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
It can't be Haye, surely. If we're talking about who accomplished more.
Haye won the world titles, and moved up to heavyweight. He didn't stick around long enough in the division, it was just a stepping stone to him.
If Haye had been a Cruiserweight his whole career, the answer may be different.
Haye won the world titles, and moved up to heavyweight. He didn't stick around long enough in the division, it was just a stepping stone to him.
If Haye had been a Cruiserweight his whole career, the answer may be different.
Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Usyk has to get the vote, but a prime Haye vs Usyk would be a very interesting fantasy matchup.
Re: whose accomplished more at cruiser: haye or usyk
Usyk comfortably.