I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

[Ron C]

Sure Anthony Joshua beat Dillian Whyte, but he's really reallyyyyyy bounced back since then. If they have a rematch I think I'd have to favor Dillian Whyte to win this time around. I'd love to see a rematch happen. Dillian Whyte has surely earned a title shot by now. I'd love to see him get a Joshua Rematch or a fight with Wilder. I think he beats both!

[danconnollyeire]

lol

[candyslim]

I think it's unlikely but not impossible. He definitely buzzed AJ in that second round and it's common knowledge that he was nursing a shoulder injury coming into that fight.

He showed real heart and stuck manfully to the task. There is no doubt he has done a lot of work in the gym since then, he looks much fitter and he has improved greatly in terms of his technique. I bet Parker could tell you all about Dillian's jab.

The problem is AJ has also improved since then and has added the ability and discipline to employ a safety first defensive approach so the second fight is likely to be a clinical display from Joshua not a shoot-out like the first meeting.

[tiny_acres]

Drugs are bad

[gilgamesh]

I think it's unlikely but not impossible. He definitely buzzed AJ in that second round and it's common knowledge that he was nursing a shoulder injury coming into that fight.

He showed real heart and stuck manfully to the task. There is no doubt he has done a lot of work in the gym since then, he looks much fitter and he has improved greatly in terms of his technique. I bet Parker could tell you all about Dillian's jab.

The problem is AJ has also improved since then and has added the ability and discipline to employ a safety first defensive approach so the second fight is likely to be a clinical display from Joshua not a shoot-out like the first meeting.

Good observation there. I agree with this post.

[SenorPipino]

Drugs are bad

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

[tiny_acres]

Drugs are bad

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Yes sir. Whyte is not in the top tier of the division.

[SenorPipino]

Drugs are bad

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Yes sir. Whyte is not in the top tier of the division.

For some reason Whyte seems to have a substantial amount of cult worshippers who feels he's an elite, P4P force.

I never see it. Top 10 but hardly a special fighter.

[KiwiRider]

Look at the trajectory of improvement since they fought.
Look at who they have fought individually since then.
Compare the two and you have a rematch mismatch.
Will it make money?
Of course it will.
Will it be a good fight?
Nope.
Ever heard of the term; One sided beat down?

[Lackeos]

I think it's fair to assume that they've both improved since their first encounter. I think Whyte matches-up somewhat well against big guys, given his effective, consistent body punching. However, I think this thread is an overreaction to Whyte's latest win.

Relevant facts:
-Joshua won the first encounter clearly.
-Joshua outperformed Whyte against common opponent Parker.
-Joshua is considered the superior fighter by basically everybody.
-Oddschecker says that if Joshua - Whyte were to happen, the opening line would put Joshua as a 1:5 favorite.

All of this information taken together would imply that Joshua is unambiguously a clear favorite. It'd be different if there was like... literally a single category which favored Whyte. There are none at all.

[Evander]

You never know but I doubt it very much at this point.
Whyte would at best have a punchers chance, Joshua's all round boxing skills are very good and he has a superb team around him to keep him in check.

[Heretic]

I would actually like to see the rematch.

There is not too many worthy opponents for AJ at the moment. Wilder, Pulev and Povetkin would be the best ones. Then its pretty much down to guys like Ortiz, Whyte and Miller.

It will still be while before the next generation is up for the task.

I don't think that Whyte has too high of a chance of beating AJ but it would be good fight and hes very much a live underdog

[Thomastearns]

Whyte would have almost 50/50 chance against AJ. He was close enough last time. We saw the improvement in Whyte against Parker and I think his roughhouse style would mean another awkward night for Joshua.

Yes, they have both improved but has Joshua really improved as much? The Povetkin fight should reveal more. Especially how Joshua makes his advantages tell without getting tagged.

[danconnollyeire]

Drugs are bad

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Yes sir. Whyte is not in the top tier of the division.

I mean, he definitely is, he beat Parker but he would get beat by Wilder and AJ without any major issues

[danconnollyeire]

Whyte would have almost 50/50 chance against AJ. He was close enough last time. We saw the improvement in Whyte against Parker and I think his roughhouse style would mean another awkward night for Joshua.

Yes, they have both improved but has Joshua really improved as much? The Povetkin fight should reveal more. Especially how Joshua makes his advantages tell without getting tagged.

50/50? Fvck me... this board is such nonsense

[Enlightened-One]

Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua have both improved since their bout 2½ years ago, but I’d argue that we’ve seen the bigger improvements from 'The Body Snatcher', based purely on the proverbial “eye test” alone.

I also believe that the rematch would involve much more skill and strategy, rather than all-out trench warfare, which means it’ll be a completely different bout than their first encounter.

I’d still favour AJ to either score a late stoppage or achieve a decision victory, but it’ll be a very competitive bout regardless – certainly no mismatch!

Dillian Whyte should not be underestimated!

[dagilechia]

Can Whyte beat Joshua? - yes, he can.
How much chances i give? - no more than 10%

I rank Povetkin much higher and give him 25-30%. I like Joshua but i will root for Povetkin hes a great fighter i really enjoy his skills and i rank him as a top 3 HW 10 years or so. He deserves to finish his career as a champion.

[danconnollyeire]

Can Whyte beat Joshua? - yes, he can.
How much chances i give? - no more than 10%

I rank Povetkin much higher and give him 25-30%. I like Joshua but i will root for Povetkin hes a great fighter i really enjoy his skills and i rank him as a top 3 HW 10 years or so. He deserves to finish his career as a champion.

No he doesn't. Juicing cheat. Hope he gets KO'd and retires

[dagilechia]

Remember that meldonium was legal at the time he used it. They banned it without proper testing on how meldonium works and how much it stays in organism. Povetkin is a olympic gold medalist he beaten good opponents before his "doping" issue

Its boxing, now compare how was treated Povetkin and how Canelo. It's business. I liked Povetkin before his doping affair, he is a skillful fighter and no one can deny that.

[bury_lad]

Personally I think they’re both overrated, mainly as a result of Sky/Matchroom hype.

But if we’re looking at who’s improved the most since they last fought, we should look at who they’ve fought (and beat);

Joshua; Charles Martin, Dominic Breazeale, Eric Molina, Wladimir Klitchsko, Carlos Takam, Joseph Parker

Whyte; Bacurin, Allen, Lewison, Chisora, Tann, Helenius, Browne and Parker

Joshua’s list of opponents are all higher calibre.
Joshua KO’d all of his opponents apart from Parker.
Whyte relied on the judges on 5 out of the 8 opponents he has fought since Joshua
Whyte arguably lost against Chisora


Then consider their only common opponent; Joseph Parker.

This fight was arguably Joshua’s most underwhelming performance of his career but the highlight of Whyte’s career.

Yet when Joshua took on the Kiwi, he was undefeated, Whyte faced him coming off a loss.

Despite this, Whyte looked like he was seconds away from getting knocked out yet Joshua barely had to get out of first gear.

So in summary I reckon Enlightened One needs to go to Specsavers for his next proverbial eye test.

[Ricky]

Drugs are bad

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Depose a heavyweight champion.... he just baet Parker who was wbo champ until his last outing.

He also beat Parker in better fashion than AJ did, flooring him with an incredibke hook.

Whyte has improved massively since his furst fight with AJ but more importantly his phsyiqye and muscle mass has came on leaps and bounds.

Whyte is the best heavyweight in the world and if he fights AJ again he will knock him out

[dagilechia]

RKY - i dont even want to ask you if you really think that Whyte has beaten Parken in better fashion (without a fake KD and with point deducted for Whyte which he deserved i had it 113-112 Whyte) but i ask you - do you really believe that Whyte is a favourite vs AJ and knocks hin out? And other question - you really think that Whyte is the best HW in the world??

[Boxerbeetle]

Drugs are bad

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Depose a heavyweight champion.... he just baet Parker who was wbo champ until his last outing.

He also beat Parker in better fashion than AJ did, flooring him with an incredibke hook.

Whyte has improved massively since his furst fight with AJ but more importantly his phsyiqye and muscle mass has came on leaps and bounds.

Whyte is the best heavyweight in the world and if he fights AJ again he will knock him out

Terrible post.

[Ricky]

RKY - i dont even want to ask you if you really think that Whyte has beaten Parken in better fashion (without a fake KD and with point deducted for Whyte which he deserved i had it 113-112 Whyte) but i ask you - do you really believe that Whyte is a favourite vs AJ and knocks hin out? And other question - you really think that Whyte is the best HW in the world??

Whyte did beat parker in better fashion. He was more agressive than AJ. He took the fight to Parker and roughed him. He forced his will on Parker and landed the best shot of his career to date. Parker actually showed a granite chin and astonishing powers of recovery (his legs were fine when he got up).

AJ probably won more rounds but the fight was a stinker and didn't show much from either man that impressed me (although i think the left hook is something AJ has added to his arsenal).

I think Whyte is better than AJ in many areas. Particularly body shots which are the best in the HW division. I think he has better output, a better chin and more heart. Bring on the rematch, i'm picking DW.

[dagilechia]

I agree that AJ vs JP was a stinker but Whyte just couldnt beat Parker in similar fashion as AJ did if he could he would do so. If Whyte fought vs Parker as AJ did he would lost. If AJ fought with Parker as Whyte did he would stop him in 8-10.